Chevelle vs Corvette z06

silicuda
01-29-2003, 07:02 PM
Chevelle vs Corvette Z06
Who would win? and why?

Chevelle vs Corvette lingenfelter
who would win? and why?

Tw!tchb!tch
01-29-2003, 07:03 PM
z06 would distroy it , are we talking stock , cause It wouldnt even be close .

:bow: Z06

555PREZ
01-29-2003, 07:04 PM
I don't think they're anywhere near the same class

silicuda
01-29-2003, 07:09 PM
cuz my idiot friend whose obsessed with old cars says the chevelle will beat the corvette, we're talking both stock cars here

sleeperZragtop
01-29-2003, 07:11 PM
..you can't even compare the two, it's like saying a chevette against an LS1....for one the Chevelle is way to heavy...you're looking at 15 sec. in a 1/4.....bottom line you can't compare old school with new...it's a different kind of expectation...back then gas was cheap therefore the cars can be heavy as **** and produce mass amount of torque and little hp...it take more gas to get the car going....now gas is so expensive it's all about high RPM and hp....even an 71 LS6 big block dosen't compare....BTW, use these threads for the lounge..

Muskys SS
01-29-2003, 08:57 PM
The Fastest Chevelle was the 1970 LS6 with the 450hp 454cid. They run low 13's
Although there were very rare Chevelles made like the yenko that may have hit 12's.
And remember these times are on slicks.
So to answer your question you can't really compare the old to the new. The Z06 can hit mid 12's on street tires. And the Lingenfelter???????? Forget About it!!!!!!!:bow:

sideways_Into_3rd
01-29-2003, 09:02 PM
tell ur friend that 'll race him for money

since camaros are a lot slower than vettes he shouldnt have any problems kickin my ass :D

silicuda
01-29-2003, 09:21 PM
sideways how much money?

sideways_Into_3rd
01-29-2003, 09:37 PM
how much money does ur buddy have ?

warner
01-29-2003, 11:21 PM
"how much money does ur buddy have"
LOL, good comeback.

sideways_Into_3rd
01-30-2003, 01:15 AM
im dead serious

just tell him a simple camaro Z28 wants to race... not even an SS .. let alone a Z06 !!! i should be no match for him ... ask him how much money he wants to bring to the table .. and its on

LuCiFeR97Z28
01-30-2003, 02:51 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Don't do it Sideways...it IS s a Corvette, after all!!! :rolleyes:

:D

sideways_Into_3rd
01-30-2003, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by LuCiFeR97Z28
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Don't do it Sideways...it IS s a Corvette, after all!!! :rolleyes:

:D

its a chevelle man ... though it IS a Z06 killer .. but i'll take my risks... thats what life is all about . taking risks brother :cool:

bring on the bills...

silicuda
01-30-2003, 03:44 PM
mentioned to my friend, he is chiceking out cuz $$$ is involed

BennyBoy
01-30-2003, 04:04 PM
Hehee... money talks and bull**** walks.

sideways_Into_3rd
01-30-2003, 05:44 PM
man ... ur buddy is all talk ..

whats he even scared of ?? my car only has a 350 in it .. bone stock engine .. factory heads .. some exh and a li'l cam .. thats it .. i dont even have aftermarket heads :rolleyes: .. im sure no match for the Z06 !!! let alone an oldschool powerhouse like the chevelle !!! :bow:

man i tell ya . .none of these new injected cars are a match for oldschool carburated HORSEPOWER .. all these computers and sh*t rob a lot of power .. if i could .. i'd put a carb on my 350 too .. then it would go fast

tell him i'll race him for $50 .. 2 to 1 odds .. so if i lose he gets $100 ... :cool:

bunker
01-30-2003, 05:55 PM
I'll race the Z06 & the Chevelle :)

oldschool
01-30-2003, 06:00 PM
The whole carb vs. fuelly is a very controversial topic. I was at a brithday party in December and Ron Parr (local engine master) happened to be there. I asked him just out of curiousity how much he'd build me a motor for and His reply was "put a carb on it and we'll talk.";)

Andy

Punisha69
01-30-2003, 07:30 PM
i too have a simple Z28... I'll race your buddies Chevell for 50 bux.. but 10 to 1 odds... if i win, i'll get 50.. if he wins.. he gets 500... i have a N/A motor... we'll both race on street tires... i just have money coming out of my ass, so i'll race him... AND he can run a 100 shot NOS if he likes...

:bow:

sideways_Into_3rd
01-30-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by oldschool
The whole carb vs. fuelly is a very controversial topic. I was at a brithday party in December and Ron Parr (local engine master) happened to be there. I asked him just out of curiousity how much he'd build me a motor for and His reply was "put a carb on it and we'll talk.";)

Andy

andy, i was being SAARRRCASTIC regarding the carb ..
for a street monster .. i wouldnt trust a carb farther than i could throw it... for pure drag racing ... differnt story

sideways_Into_3rd
01-30-2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by bunker
I'll race the Z06 & the Chevelle :)

why dont you race ME for $50 ?

blue 79 Z/28
01-31-2003, 06:02 AM
ill put my lonley ol' 2nd gen against any who want to tangle! lol dont have to worry about a 2nd gen do we?? lol although a ss454 chevelle driven properly with current technology street tires will beat a z06, just because the car needs more traction to operate it, doesnt mean a thing, its just because that car has real power and REAL torque!lol cant beat torque, and torque needs gobs of traction:D

blue 79 Z/28
01-31-2003, 06:10 AM
that car with a real driver would be a low 12 sec car with slicks and a 4 speed. to put things in perspective, my uncle has a 70 396 ss nova 4 speed, with a L88 crate motor from 72 427 stock w/ iron heads swapped in. stock 12 bolt. stock other then the motor, the car on 70's slicks and launching at a modest soft 2800rpm to keep the tranny in the car, ran a best of 11.88 at 119mph at mission in the day. old dominates the new, and that motor was only rated at 425hp the 454 was the step up from that at 450hp. its the driver and setup. an low 12 sec car can easily be made into a low 13 sec car with only a few errors. its all up to the driver.;)

sideways_Into_3rd
01-31-2003, 06:42 AM
hey blue..

i'll give u a run for ur money .. how does $50 sound ? ;) see u in the burnout box .. i call left lane :)

carburators never scared me ...

rules ? no rules, bring all u got, dont fall asleep on the light, and hope u brought enough :D .. that goes for both of us :bow:

Tw!tchb!tch
01-31-2003, 12:38 PM
old dominates the new

Not in this world ;)

oldschool
01-31-2003, 01:31 PM
Payam cocky:confused: no way!

There are plent of carbed cars that will smoke us EFI guys....just look at Al Hitchcock....looks like he'll be the first guy in the 6's at Mission this year. Not that we'll ever be in that league.

The guy I bought my car off has a 455 4spd Buick Skylark and that rans 12's in stock form and modern street tires.

Andy

Punisha69
01-31-2003, 01:56 PM
lol
yea Andy.. you're right.. but read what you wrote.. it used to take BIG BLOCK 454's and 455's to get that much power... now there is V6 and Straight 6 cars making the same power.... if not.. even SB 350's... Newer age is where its at. UNLESS you're going ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL OUT..... then it all depends on the setups.

oldschool
01-31-2003, 01:59 PM
you obviously have never seen their torque numbers...for the money a carb car will walk most efi combs.

Punisha69
01-31-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by oldschool
you obviously have never seen their torque numbers...for the money a carb car will walk most efi combs.

i doubt not... but can you drive that same car on the street with the same gas milage.. I THINK NOT!

sideways_Into_3rd
01-31-2003, 02:27 PM
andy .. ur off in ur own little world again . if u like carbs so much WHY THE FACK DID U SELL UR 82 !? :mad:

UR TALKING BIG BLOCKS HERE !!! WTF MAN ! ur comparing apples to oranges .. or that whoever whos going 6s !? so WHAT?! thats a drag car .. READ MY LIPS ANDY : IM TALKING ABOUT STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET CARS ... CARS LIKE URS AND MINE !

for f*cks sake, look at the new ZL1 camaro concept, its a big block EFI, it puts out well over 700 hp STOCK !!! now go mod that and tell me EFI sucks

andy .. for the last time .. CARB MOTORS ARE OLD .. its like saying ur 386 is better than my pantium III ...

carb motors are only good for all out drag racing

just look at ur old 82 .. it had a carb !? did it go fast ?! NO .. a stock V6 4th gen would've sliced it ... how much gas did it guzzle ?! A LOT !!! CASE DISMISSED :bow:

andy, a few more things: call me cocky if u want . i just challanged him to a fair and square race .. i dont see whats so cocky about that

2) u talkin about all out drag cars in the 6s ?? with big block carb motors ?!? BIG WHOOPIE .. just cuz noone in BC has a fast EFI car doesnt mean they dont exist... gee i wonder if DON MURREY has a carb under his hood .NO ! guess what .. EFI !!! and there are full weight SMALL BLOCK 4th gens well into the 8s .. with EFI !! NOT A CARB . but EFI .. im talking FULL WEIGHT, SMALL BOCK .. dont come back with another 6 second drag car reply .. thats just IGNORANT

3) do u not enjoy the gobs ur hp and driveability and gas milage u get out of ur TA ?! u think if ur 82 was putting out the samehp .. it would get more than 6 mpg and wouldnt drive like a drag car !?

Punisha69
01-31-2003, 02:33 PM
haha... forget about a V6.... Reza's Civic Si Sliced him... :bow:

oldschool
01-31-2003, 07:12 PM
Reza Civic never came close and if you don't believe me, ask him yourself.

I'm NOT saying that I want a carb there Payam...I said for the money and race, which is what we where talking about. It takes WAY less money to make a carb faster...for about $6000 I would have had about 475hp with my Vic Jr. heads Holley 850HP carb...along with 6mpg!

Go on the Canadian Pro Street Assoc. web site and tell me how many "street" carbed cars you see in the top ranks....of for example Real Street cat. There is your proof

Rybar
01-31-2003, 07:35 PM
I agree with Andy on his last point. You can make just as much power with a carbed motor for a fraction of the price.

But you give up fuel economy, emissions and reliablilty.

I ditched the LT1 idea for my '69 Camaro. It was going to cost waaay too much, and for what? I'm now going to go with a carbed motor for it. I don't care about mileage, it's a '69 Camaro and that's all that matters.

Tw!tchb!tch
01-31-2003, 08:22 PM
Carbs are brainless gas chuggers , yeah there cheaper but theres a reason , there simple . . . . like fire on the end of a stick before there was light at the flick of a switch . Just wait until the new camless engines come out :eek:

:bow: EFI

warner
01-31-2003, 08:25 PM
But you give up fuel economy, emissions and reliablilty

Right on the first two but a carb can be quite reliable. Most cars went well over a 100k miles before carb work was needed. I was wondering where this was going to go. You're gonna have to pull 12's to stay with an old big block car with an LS6 that's getting traction. If you can do that then you guys have a chance but the high horsepowered big blocks were slower back then because of their tires. They'll pull 12's with slicks, not 13's, even in a Chevelle. Possibly even some good DOT tires. With ton's of torque it's harder to launch and let me assure you they have more torque and horsepower than our cars, enough to make up for the few hundred extra pounds of weight. Torque wins races.

blue 79 Z/28
01-31-2003, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Tw!tchb!tch
Carbs are brainless gas chuggers , yeah there cheaper but theres a reason , there simple . . . . like fire on the end of a stick before there was light at the flick of a switch . Just wait until the new camless engines come out :eek:

:bow: EFI

ya, but fire on the end of a stick is way cooler then a light bulb:rolleyes: lol

Muskys SS
01-31-2003, 08:54 PM
Now a dayz most of the drag cars are fuel injected. Most of them have a carb like setup with the pro flo fuel infection.

blue 79 Z/28
01-31-2003, 08:54 PM
oh ya, i almost forgot, i accept the challange, but ill go for a little less $$$, i need every penny to race my car this year and buy tires lol ill go money but not that much im poor:( :think: :Owned: heh

warner
01-31-2003, 09:54 PM
The poor Nascar people seem to do pretty good with carbs too. Not to mention the numerous road racers in this country running 600 hp Camaros, with a carburator. Not that I think they're so great cause I don't, but they have a place and can work quite well. The first fuel injection car I remember on a production car was in the late fifties on a Corvette. It's not very new, they came that way stock, it was an option though.

sideways_Into_3rd
01-31-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by blue 79 Z/28
oh ya, i almost forgot, i accept the challange, but ill go for a little less $$$, i need every penny to race my car this year and buy tires lol ill go money but not that much im poor:( :think: :Owned: heh

done and done :)
whatever u want to put down is fine with me .. the money is just to make it more fun :D