todd15 01-29-2003, 03:04 PM "If you're happy and you know it bomb Iraq" - sing this to the tune of "If you're happy and you know it clap your hands"
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If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.
If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.
If the terrorists are frisky, Pakistan is looking shifty, North Korea is too risky, Bomb Iraq.
It's "pre-emptive non-aggression", bomb Iraq.
Let's prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.
They've got weapons we can't see, And that's good enough for me, 'cus it's all the proof I need, so Bomb Iraq.
If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.
If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.
If you think Saddam's gone mad, with the weapons that he had, (and he tried to kill your dad), then Bomb Iraq.
If your corporate fraud is growing, bomb Iraq.
If your ties to it are showing, bomb Iraq.
If your politics are sleazy, And hiding that ain't easy, And your manhood's getting queasy, Bomb Iraq.
If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.
If we think someone has ' dissed' us, bomb Iraq.
So to hell with the inspections, Let's look tough for the elections, close your mind and take directions, Bomb Iraq.
Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.
For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.
Disagree? We'll call it treason, Let's make war not love this season, even if we have no reason, Bomb Iraq.
OneFlyn95z28 01-29-2003, 03:48 PM :rolleyes:
Tw!tchb!tch 01-29-2003, 05:57 PM **** LOVE BOMB THAT BITCH !!!
bunker 01-29-2003, 06:09 PM wow thats a sweet song, I sang it :) but yeah, Bombing Iraq is like doing preventative maintencance on your car :)
sideways_Into_3rd 01-29-2003, 07:16 PM the only thing that worries me if the start bombing Iraq is that .. their gettin too close to Iran .. if they start nukin those arabs all of my people will die too
how would YOU guys feel if all ur family and old friends were about to get nuked ?!
say ur traveling in australia and hear someones gonna nuke the NW region (but not specifically ur city) and all ur friends and family would die because of it ?!
sleeperZragtop 01-29-2003, 07:20 PM Yes Payam...you got it...bombing Iraq is like lighting the fuse on a bomb itself...it will cause a alot of damage..to both side's...WTF does Bush thinks he's doing...he wants another NY bombing just to get his rocks off..bloody cowboy...
Tw!tchb!tch 01-29-2003, 07:21 PM They brought it on themselves , Sadam Hussain needs to die , they should have killed him in the gulf war . . . . he's prolly taking it up the ass from binladin right now :eek: ;)
sleeperZragtop 01-29-2003, 07:24 PM ..why risk lives for the sake of one man...go in there and and kill the one man...
555PREZ 01-29-2003, 07:26 PM Originally posted by sleeperZragtop
..why risk lives for the sake of one man...go in there and and kill the one man...
You say it like it's so easy
sideways_Into_3rd 01-29-2003, 07:26 PM Originally posted by Tw!tchb!tch
They brought it on themselves , Sadam Hussain needs to die , they should have killed him in the gulf war . . . . he's prolly taking it up the ass from binladin right now :eek: ;)
they would've killed them in the gulf war if the americans wouldnt have gotten so miserably beaten !!
dont get me wrong . i hate those f*ckin arabs too .. Iran was in an 8 year long war with Iraq .. (interesting fact, the war started on sep 21, 1980 .. the night of my birthday :rolleyes: )
the only thing that worries me is that .. saddam isnt stupid .. he wouldnt be so goddamn cocky if he didnt have something big up his sleeve !!!
that cowboy starts killing arabs, and next thing u know we're eating nukes left right and centre ...
the problem with americans is that they feel so safe and mighty sittin on this side of the continent ... well look what happened to them at pearl harbor ..
the war on Iraq can very well have direct consequences on US AND CANADA .. let alone the damage that will occur to the middle easter countries...
sleeperZragtop 01-29-2003, 07:28 PM ..it is, it one takes one person with the right plan to kill someone...U.S waste's billions of dollars on warfare...you can't tell me it's not easy...
sideways_Into_3rd 01-29-2003, 07:31 PM Originally posted by sleeperZragtop
..it is, it one takes one person with the right plan to kill someone...U.S waste's billions of dollars on warfare...you can't tell me it's not easy...
lol :rolleyes:
its like you saying .. why didnt binladen send 1 person to the US to kill the president !?? itsnot happenin man !!! saddam is SO STINKIN RICH that he can afford the highest amount of security to cover his a$$ .. everytime u pump 94 octane in ur car ur puttin a penny in his pocket .. its sad but true .. if the middle eastern countries boycotted the US on oil .. we'd have to take out a second mortgage to fill up half a tank
:rolleyes:
555PREZ 01-29-2003, 07:31 PM Originally posted by sleeperZragtop
..it is, it one takes one person with the right plan to kill someone...U.S waste's billions of dollars on warfare...you can't tell me it's not easy...
By the time I walked up to saddam and pulled a gun I don't think I'd be able to shoot due to 3 pounds of lead being in my body
sleeperZragtop 01-29-2003, 07:35 PM ...that would be the stupid way, in this world money talks...everyone has a price, even if it means paying off one of his officers, to risk his life for his future country and family...there is a way...
Tw!tchb!tch 01-29-2003, 07:39 PM http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/osamavideo/
http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/osamabox/
;)
Tw!tchb!tch 01-29-2003, 07:45 PM I say get it over now , hes not going away , hes a coward that hides behind his people .
oldschool 01-29-2003, 07:50 PM My cousin flys F18's for Canada out of Cold Lake Alberta, and he told me that if the Americans would go into ALL OUT war with Iraq, it would last 2 or 3 days at the MOST. To give you an I idea of how powerful the US army is, one of their aircraft carriers has the same amount of F18's as Canada has in total. If Bush wanted to kill Sadam, he would have done it a long time ago...but he is like a little toy to him that he uses when he wants to take the heat off himself for other reasons
Andy
Iraq will have it's ass kicked if the US goes in there all guns firing.
sleeperZragtop 01-29-2003, 07:56 PM ...that won't be the end of it, there will be wide spread terrorism all over the States...and maybe even Canada....
Tw!tchb!tch 01-29-2003, 08:05 PM Yeah but why wait for it in fear , the message must be sent and in a big way not to **** with us . Im not interested in any little country with a cause trying for a peice , lets end this and make him wish he never stopped ****ing his goat and left his cave . The face of war has changed bigtime , just check this out
http://www.gregg00ss.gotdns.com/ss/videos/gunship.WMV
DIAL UP WARNING 50 Megs
Draco 01-29-2003, 09:04 PM Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
they would've killed them in the gulf war if the americans wouldnt have gotten so miserably beaten !!
America beaten? The American led coalition destroyed nearly the entire Iraqi armed force, including the "elite" Republican Guard in a matter of days. The Iraqi force happened to be one of the largest and most well equipped in the world (for instance their armored columns had plenty of modern Soviet tanks and mechanized units). While this was happening the coalition also managed to liberate an entire country.
It is easy to look back and suggest that the coalition should have removed Saddam from power when they had the chance. Hindsight is always 20-20. However if you look back 12 years ago you would see that the landscape was much different. There was no axis of evil, Osama bin Laden, or 9/11. Iraq did not pose the possible threat of weapons of mass destruction that it does now, and finally US no longer needs to worry about the instability of Eastern Europe.
NiteRider 01-29-2003, 09:24 PM War means u.s dollar will go down more, this means I can buy parts for cheaper, woo hoo..
I just hope Canada stays out of this war and remains as peace keepers. Nore I or anyone else here wants to get drafted :cry:
LuCiFeR97Z28 01-30-2003, 03:30 AM Let's just chill out on the propaganda-fuelled arguments guys :rolleyes:.
FACT: Bin Laden was an operative for the US Government long before 9/11. Much of his reign of terror and wealth was made possible via the US supply of money, arms and military personnel.
FACT: A war on Iraq will have substantially positive effects on oil harnessing and pricing, giving the US an incentive to strike.
IF the US war effort really was about global peace and anti-terrorism, then why are the UN and other countries so dramatically opposed to the war?
Don't get me wrong, I think all terrorists deserve to die a miserable death, but the general population is so caught up in the here and now, that many of the facts are placed on the back-burner. Bush has successfully turned the incidents of 9/11 into a strategic attempt to jumpstart the economy and distract the world from tension on the homefront.
Moreover, a war with Iraq may be interpreted as a religious war, thereby increasing strain between religious, political and social factions in every country involved, including Canada. Being born in Canada, I STILL faced persecution after 9/11 because of my ethnicity. Quite pathetic...:rolleyes:
StreamlineZ28 01-30-2003, 12:19 PM i hate george bush he is just looking for war
"they have weapons i just cant tell you where they are, but i know there in there"
what a loser, they ar egoing to stetch there military limits to the point that they are going to start drafting again. i think he should focus on problems were they have proof like northkorea. Oh wait thats right north korea doesn't have the oil reserves like iraq, what would be the point in that .
Im just preparing to pay out the A$$ for gas this summer
sideways_Into_3rd 01-30-2003, 12:28 PM well .. you wanna know how bush KNOWS that iraq has weapons ??BECAUSE THE US SOLD ALL THOSE WEAPONS TO SADDAM ... where do u think they got all their weapons of mass destruction when they were fighting Iran from 1980 to 1988 ? where do u think Iran got their weapons !? yeah .. the united states !!! a war is like a business for them .. they make money no matter who wins :rolleyes:
so they know how much weapons they sold to Iraq, they know how many of them were used ..
heres the algorithm ... its basically simple math
Declare War(w. sold, w. used, w. found)
{
Let weapons_remaining = weapons_sold - weapons_used
If (weapons found < weapons remining)
Start war
else
do nothing.
}
oldschool 01-30-2003, 04:48 PM You won't have to pay out the ass for gas if there is a war. When Desert Storm took place in the early 90's, gas prices where stable. Also, last year after 9/11 happened, everybody thought gas would rise, but it didn't. I remember paying 0.54$ per L (87octain) last April at a lower mainland gas station.
Andy
Punisha69 01-30-2003, 07:36 PM I only read some of this sh_T.. but i'm with Mike... it IS EASY to send in ONE guy to kill ONE man... its called spys ... but Bush likes to figh... AND BUSH Sr. HATED Iran AND Iraq and they had an ongoing thing... so BUSH JR. is finishing daddys job for him. And, even though I don't think about it, I am afraid... cause once they start attacking Iraq, Iran will get involved and its over for Iran and other countries too... :(
And obviously they have nukes and most of the US/Canada is doomed
ah well.. you're born and then you're dead
isn't that what life is all about?
Tw!tchb!tch 01-30-2003, 08:32 PM Not many countries have the ability to launch nucular warheads into orbit which is the only way they can " Nuke " us with any kind of real success. They wouldnt dare , we would **** them all up so bad . USA has the ability to wipe whole countries off the face of the earth if need be from a distance :death: . . . . . but they wont. The US has a bad rep which is a joke because they give out Bazillions in foreign aid and help with rebuilding entire countries . . . but who remembers that . Bush is doing his job , he's protecting our way of life .
Draco 01-30-2003, 09:11 PM Originally posted by Punisha69
I only read some of this sh_T.. but i'm with Mike... it IS EASY to send in ONE guy to kill ONE man... its called spys ... but Bush likes to figh... AND BUSH Sr. HATED Iran AND Iraq and they had an ongoing thing... so BUSH JR. is finishing daddys job for him. And, even though I don't think about it, I am afraid... cause once they start attacking Iraq, Iran will get involved and its over for Iran and other countries too... :(
And obviously they have nukes and most of the US/Canada is doomed
ah well.. you're born and then you're dead
isn't that what life is all about?
Why would Iran get involved? I know the Iranian government is anti-US but there is no love lost between Iran and Iraq. In fact if you have been following the news, Iran has been talking to the US government about returning shot-down US pilots if fighting breaks out.
I am sure the CIA has tried to assassinate Saddam, but obviously they have not been successful. They would have to make it look like a coup d'etat. World opinion would likely explode if it became common knowledge that the American government sponsored the assassination of a foregin head of state.
twitchbitch is right about us getting nuked - they have no way of delivering nuclear warheads across the Atlantic. Israel (and possibly Turkey) have reason to worry though.
One thing to remember about powerful nations is that they do their best to protect themselves, and they do this by projecting power. Opinion will thus always be arrayed against them, and sometimes rightly so since the best interests of powerful nations are rarely beneficial for others. It happened to the Romans, Persians, Turks, the British Empire, the Germans, and will happen with the US until it too falls from power (if ever) or humanity finds a way to unite as one nation.
Punisha69 01-30-2003, 09:17 PM Tell me something Craig... is there a topic you DON'T know about?
****.. you know EVERYTHING... and i mean that in a good way
some people PRETEND to be knowitalls... but you are one!
good to have friends like that.. :bow:
Draco 01-30-2003, 10:46 PM International relations and military history have always been hobbies of mine (yes I am being serious) :D.
Don't get me started on the naval and land battles of the two world wars haha.
NiteRider 01-30-2003, 11:06 PM Ahh, I love debating over WW2... bring it!
sideways_Into_3rd 01-31-2003, 12:02 AM so what do u know about project "star wars" craig ?
did it ever go functional .. is it in play right now !? or did they can the whole thing ?
we read about it in my "computers in society" course .. but i fergot if its actually in play or if it was given up.
Draco 01-31-2003, 01:04 AM Star Wars, aka the SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative) was introduced in Reagan's era, in 1983, as a way to counter the Soviet ballistic missile threat. The idea was to put laser carrying satellites into space to shoot down ballistic missles in flight. It proved far too difficult and costly to implement with the technology of the time, and thus never entered development. Apparently the system was so complex that even simulations and tests failed, never mind real system trials. the SDI amounted to little more then a massive and costly R&D project into spaceborne lasers.
Star Wars is not in play right now (if it is, it's a secret). Instead Bush is attempting to build an anti-missile system designed to counter attack from "rogue states" that do not have the ability to launch a full nuclear assault on the US. The system uses earth-based rockets to intercept and destroy/deflect missiles in flight. The defensive capacity is much smaller then what Regan envisioned, but would hopefully be able to destroy a handful of missiles launched by a nation such as North Korea. This is a very touchy subject, and Russia is most definitely opposed to it despite the new friendship between the former cold war enemies.
Punisha69 01-31-2003, 05:34 AM you copy and pasted that!
now i know where you get your info!
:rolleyes:
LuCiFeR97Z28 01-31-2003, 05:34 AM To add to Craig's testimony, the Star Wars Project proposal put forward by Reagan was reignited after the attacks on the WTC. Advocates of the Strategic Defense Initiative claimed that a Star Wars-type system may have prevented the large-scale destruction witnessed by the world on 9/11.
Although the complexities of space-based weaponary disqualifies this sort of warfare as a valid form of battle, the US military still fights for satellite surveillance control. To this date, the only known Earth-surveillance mechanism is the Global Positioning System, which is coincidentally controlled and operated from the United States. The US government gladly allows foreign nations to harness the GPS technology and use it to monitor resources, missiles, vehicles and people BUT the data recieved is filtered through the US Department of Defense. As nations become more and more dependant on this technology, their vulnerability increases.
Thus it becomes apparent that although no physical space-based war systems are in place today, passive deterrents do indeed exist and are as equally effective.
:D
Draco 01-31-2003, 12:28 PM Originally posted by Punisha69
you copy and pasted that!
now i know where you get your info!
:rolleyes:
Actually no, I cooked that up in about 3 minutes :D
Punisha69 01-31-2003, 02:02 PM whatever... i hope the US can cook something up soon thouhg... cause we're at war! :(
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