It takes a village to build a car.

OK the final date has been set for the "Great Black TA Build Up"

Saturday Feb 8th and Sunday Feb 9th.

What you get. Well.... Beer, lunch and dinner both days as well my eternal gratitude and a favour owed. Dinner will be steaks and fixings as prepared by Mike (thanks buddy). Also comraderie and possibly the opportunity to learn a little and in some cases gain a little confidance.

What has to be done?

Gas tank install and harness wired in
rear end and rear suspension
motor
tranny
exhaust
headers
blower
front end suspension and brakes
hood.

Anyone who wants, can stay overnight (I have pillows and beds and we can watch some DVD's. Matrix possibly but I have a bunch of other ones.

What you need to bring? I have a fairly good shop BUT would need a couple or three creepers and probably bring your own socket wrench if you have it.

Anyone is welcome, be it for the weekend or for an hour or two. It seems impossible to even dream the dream, but maybe even get the car running on Sunday. I think everything will be available to be able to start it. The tuning guys might want to take a look at the FAST computer and develop the first program. :)

There is no obligation to "work" when you are here but there is lots to be done.

Let me know if you can come so Mike and I can arrange enough food and bevvies.

Address is 6131 - 169 A Street Surrey. home number 576-8771. Easy to find.

Hey, what do you know!!! You live up the street from me!!!! I'm @32nd and 168st. As far as I know, I'm free that weekend for a little bit anyways, so I will spare as much time as possible. I got a creeper, kinda beat up but it works, and I got some socket sets as well. Call me if you need anything else. Jacks, jackstands, etc. 604-808-5327. Call me or PM me and let me know what time.;)
Later
Sandeep

I can probably make the 9th. I also have a pretty good selection of tools so if you need something let me know via a PM or email.
[edit] oh ya, I also have a beat up old truck (not keeping it long though) so if you need me to move some heavy or slimy parts let me know.
CoryM

cant make any promisses ... but i'll try to be there.

you must understand that school is #1 priority and its my last semester ... but i'll try to be there .. in my work cloths ;) just as long as there is enough beer and food :D

so who are these "tuning guys" you speak of ? u hiring someone to cook u up an initial tune and take her on the dyno ? Dal ? id like to be there and learn :D possibly contribute .. but if dals doin the work mostly learn :D

i'm gonna try my BEST to be there.. i don't see any reason why i shouldn't be able to come...
:bow:

Maybe I'll see, if the weather sucks I'll be there :)

I will more then likely be there on saturday. Sunday is autoX (5th and final race of the UBC slush series) so I will have to race that day.

I can bring a creeper

I'd love to stop by on Saturday for a bunch of hours as well... Not that I can offer much in the way of experience, but I'd be glad to help where i can! And get a good look at the beast :)

Jeff

....I got some 12oz. NY steaks, huge ass prawns and a crap load of baked potatoes....no one gets nothing till your hands are greasy:D ....I got that Thursday till the Sunday off so I ain't doin nothing..the first 2 days I'll be finishing my car and I want to have it at Shawn's.....

Count me in for the 8th :) Leave the Blower to me :D

Likely make the 8th to lend a hand

I would like to offer some help, but I am almost 100% sure I am busy or will be away that weekend.

I wouldent mind coming and learnning.....but if thats a prob I will just stay home

Everyone welcome. If you just want to watch and retrieve tools then thats fine but it would be a great opportunity for those with limited experience - and that includes me - to get to see what is involved in various projects and how long they take to do.

Originally posted by 97TA-WS6-Con
Everyone welcome. If you just want to watch and retrieve tools then thats fine but it would be a great opportunity for those with limited experience - and that includes me - to get to see what is involved in various projects and how long they take to do.

okey I will drop by for....... how to put an engine while drinking a beer 101

I should be able to swing by.

Damn... if I lived over on the mainland I would be there in a heartbeat. :(

ChriSS, Charles???? I know you guys like to eat...

I wouldn't mind coming to learn a thing or two. I have a set of tools that I'll lend out as well, just let me know in advance Shawn so I can dig them up.

Will there be any hard liquor for those that are capable of consuming REAL alcoholic beverages :D???

If I'm in town, I'll see you all there.

sounds like fun, ill probably show up might give ya some help. i know my basic stuff so that should be good for something :)
might be able to bring a friend to who likes camaros and is thinking of possibly getting another one, so hopefully i can convince him to come and he'll get another camaro :)

Originally posted by LuCiFeR97Z28
I wouldn't mind coming to learn a thing or two. I have a set of tools that I'll lend out as well, just let me know in advance Shawn so I can dig them up.

Will there be any hard liquor for those that are capable of consuming REAL alcoholic beverages :D???

If I'm in town, I'll see you all there.

I have an extensive liquor cabinett - as I'm not a big beer drinker myself - and I think you should have no problem finding a single malt amongst the 12 I have that you can enjoy. Perhaps a McCallams?

Shawn! Do you want air tools? I can bring over my compressor and air line. Unfortunatly all I have is a 1/2" drive gun. It'll do all the realy tough jobs like the torque arm!

Let me know. I wouldn't mind swinging by to check out the computer too.

Any other tools, let me know.

Owwww power tools.

Well they certainly might be fun to have around but I'll leave it up to you.

Truth be said there ARE some big ugly bolts that need to go in. Especially the front suspension, control arms and the Spohn TA.

I think we will be ok with socket sets. Bring your own wrench though as they may be in short supply.

OH I DO need one very rare socket.

I need a 9/16's 1/4 drive socket for the nuts that go on the U-bolts of the driveshaft.

Anyone have that?

Thanks everyone for thos response. I think we will have a great Saturday.

in the meatime I will have to work like a SOB to finish polishing the exhaust system. I'm to pick up the chrome goodies on Feb 5th :-)

Another question. Do I need to use a shorty oil filter with the FLP's or the regular style OK? Payam? Matt? Mike?

From personal experiance, I would use the 3/8" drive so you get more leverage. Just slap on a universal joint with a stubby extender and you won't have any problems clearing the wrench past the drive shaft and it'll be a lot easier to break those bolts loose.

Ken

The DS if already off and the ONLY tool that would fit was a 9/16 socket 1/4 inch drive. The is no 3/8 socket or extension that was able to get a bite on the nut. I have an extensive socket set but I had to borrow a snap on socket from a neighbour to get the U-bolts loose.

You do have a torque wrench correct shaun? The K member bolts are not that burly :) I personally don't use a ratchet for the yoke. I used a thin wall wrench.

Have fun with your install.

Steven

for my u joint nuts i just use regular open end wrenches

for ur FLPs u need a short oil filter .. u should know this since u've had FLPs for a while and hopefully u've changed ur filter since then :rolleyes: :p

Well for $30 I just as soon take it to a garage for an oil change :) Life's to short.

Thanks payam. I'll get a shorty one.

And any of you guys are WELCOME to try your wrenches and sockets. Mine don't work that is for sure.

Originally posted by 97TA-WS6-Con
Well for $30 I just as soon take it to a garage for an oil change


[sideways shakes head]

... shaun shaun shaun ...

[/sideways shakes head]


for me, to get a shop to do my camaros oil change, is like going to a doctor to get the diaper changed on my baby (if i ever have one)

my cutlass though... i refuse to touch anything on it :D it'll either fix it self, or die trying :cool: .. so far all the problems just fixed themselves :D

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 97TA-WS6-Con
[B]Well for $30 I just as soon take it to a garage for an oil change :) Life's to short.

The cheapest I can change my oil is 42 bucks. This is for molbile 1 synthetic at wal mart. What oil are you having someone else put in for 30 bucks?

:eek:

Originally posted by 97TA-WS6-Con
Well for $30 I just as soon take it to a garage for an oil change :) Life's to short.

$30 Oil change? What kind of oil do you put in? ;)

I can just see the look on those Mr. Lube guys faces when they see Shaun's blown 383 T/A pulling up, I bet they look like this: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

shuan .. i just figuered out why ur motor went poop .. u put in $30 oil in ur car ?!? they probably water it down :D

When they refill the oil , they stick the hose right in the valve cover hole so you can't see the used oil going back in.:p And when you see your oil is really dark after a couple of days people tell you its "detergent oil" , its supposed to be that dirty:)

Mike I'll be there to help out. Last summer I helped with gas tank install, engine and tranny install and tonnes of stuff on my car. All I did was help with grunt work. I think we need some Guinness for Saturday lol. Besides Shaun can keep up a conversation with me for hours. He has lots to say. LMAO and I saw the absolute desparation in his eyes over a year ago at the dyno day. Syntec can be had on sale at costco right now. $29.00 for 6 litres. Not a bad price at all. Also if you can take the bit larger filter, GM makes their own sythetic material filter (have for 20 years or so) that I read is the best damn filter you can put on a chevy. Same size as a PF35. Do not feed Mike any beans before the project starts please.......

Originally posted by sleeperZragtop
ChriSS, Charles???? I know you guys like to eat...

I'd like to come for sure. I'll be there.

Mike, you got some Zaino products coming to you... no charge buddy.

Mr Muff, I'll bring the laptop and ATAP for your car.

Shaun, this should be fun. :D

Originally posted by Camaro ChriSS
I'd like to come for sure. I'll be there.

Mike, you got some Zaino products coming to you... no charge buddy.

Mr Muff, I'll bring the laptop and ATAP for your car.

Shaun, this should be fun. :D

...man what's with the double posts, it happened to twice already..anyway Matt is having fun with it...Charles..no beans..I had a supplier give me steaks and prawns....;) ...ChriSS...NO CHARGE..why bro..anyway it will be great top get us all together, it will be fun..take care guys...

irocz383, are you going to bring air? Id offer to bring mine but its 220v (probably the wrong plug) and is not too portable. I can however bring about 40ft of airline and a impact gun,air rachet and blower if needed. Just bring an extra nipple for your airline if you have one.
CoryM

Originally posted by Rybar
$30 Oil change? What kind of oil do you put in? ;)

I can just see the look on those Mr. Lube guys faces when they see Shaun's blown 383 T/A pulling up, I bet they look like this: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Hey easy there buddy, i worked at Mr.Lube for a while....and Id have loved to have changed Shaun's oil for him.

I can come out on Sat...limited experience but I really want to learn.

Hey no more talk of hoses and nipples please.... Shaun get's too excited and work is supposed to happen on the car :o

Sorry Charles, didnt realize talking about bringing my hose, a blower and some nipples would get anyone worked up. Hmmmm i think it is time to head over to the GFs house though :D .
CoryM

Originally posted by Charles9c1
Hey no more talk of hoses and nipples please.... Shaun get's too excited and work is supposed to happen on the car :o

Actually it was the referance to "Mr. Lube" that got me started.

It looks like I'm gonna ned a LOT of beer. Thanks for all the support guys. its' goona be fun.

In fact there are a few 'small' jobs that I was going to do, but with all the help, i might leave them so there are things to do :)

Oh. I got the Castrol synthetic from Costco for this install :)

That being said, should I change to oil after 500 miles with the rebuilt motor and all?

Originally posted by Charles9c1
Hey no more talk of hoses and nipples please.... Shaun get's too excited and work is supposed to happen on the car :o

Actually it was the referance to "Mr. Lube" that got me started.

It looks like I'm going to need a LOT of beer. Thanks for all the support guys. It's gonna be fun.

In fact there are a few 'small' jobs that I was going to do, but with all the help, I might leave them so there are things to do for everyone :)

Oh. I got the Castrol synthetic from Costco for this install :)

That being said, should I change to oil after 500 miles with the rebuilt motor and all? Perhaps go with regular oil for the first oil change

Yeah, I'll bring the compressor. Its a 110v but it sucks back a lot of juice. Shawn, I hope the wiring in your garge is good. If you have a circuit that doesn't have anything else running on it it should be fine.

What time do you want us there?

Your going to break the motor in after the rebuild on synthetic???

I would personally get a good regular oil then change after 500miles or so. If you then want to run synthetic great but i wouldn't do it earlier.

Steven

Might want to ask you engine builder what he recommends to use for break in. I have heard stories of rings never seating if you use synth oil for break in. Although, with moly rings I doubt it.
Often cars from the factory come with a special oil for break in. Most recommend running it xKM then if you want synth to change.
CoryM

so how many of you guys are driving there in your f-bodys?
me <---- is

Yeah, I better forewarn the neighbours LOL

However, on a slightly serious note, please be considerate when entering and leaving my cul-de-sac. There are 32 kids between 10 houses so be careful. :)

yea you should " Hi im having some people over to help me put my car together, and there will be some drinking going on later at night and they are all crazy f-body owners, so anything that happens isn't my fault as i have for-warned you"
you are having people stay the night or what not correct?

I'm bringing mine :D

Your poor neighbours. To them we'll look like a biker gang only with f-bodies:D

Hey Shaun. Sorry i can not make it but thought I would give ou a heads up.

Run Dino oil for the first 1,000k of break in ;) After the first 500 drive it like you normally would to get rings seated well ;)

Good luck!

Hey Ellis. Too bad you and Steph could not make it for the weekend. It would have been fun. Get to meet the CDN posse. LOL :)

Think about and let me know if you change your mind. I have an extra double bed if you want to come.

I bought some dino oil.

So run the car gently for 500 miles and then normal after that?

Hey im not bring my f body :p

:D I'm bringing one of those keg sized Sleemans beer and munchies and my damn lawn chair LMAAAAAO. Hope there is one helluva turn out. Ok back to work so I can get my ass over there! I can bring some ice too if that is helpful?