Production '03 Cobra times

94LightningGal
06-14-2002, 02:46 PM
Here is the first ones I have seen posted. Flame away.
http://vca1.viperclub.org/ubb/Forum17/HTML/003891.html

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Bizzomb0707
06-14-2002, 04:09 PM
Their sigs make me sick http://web.camaross.com/bb/eek.gif

Z284ever
06-14-2002, 04:21 PM
You know us Chevy guys have problems, when the Viper guys start getting concerned about the '03 Cobra.

cmsmith
06-14-2002, 05:09 PM
True. Sad but true. http://web.camaross.com/bb/frown.gif

stars1010
06-14-2002, 05:30 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bizzomb0707:
Their sigs make me sick http://web.camaross.com/bb/eek.gif</font>

NO KIDDING!

muckz
06-14-2002, 07:48 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z284ever:
You know us Chevy guys have problems, when the Viper guys start getting concerned about the '03 Cobra.</font>


LOL, that was hilarious! I think we need to compile a list:

You know us Chevy guys have a problem when...

guionM
06-14-2002, 09:11 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z284ever:
You know us Chevy guys have problems, when the Viper guys start getting concerned about the '03 Cobra.</font>

Nice. Understated, yet very funny.

Z284ever
06-15-2002, 01:28 AM
The DEW98 Mustang that's coming should be far more impressive than the '03 Cobra....especially in terms of chassis and rigidity.

I wonder if a next gen Camaro will rise to the challenge...but more importantly...will those working on it have the green light to match it, if not surpass it?

....if not, we're all going to be some unhappy campers, circa 2007!

Aeromaks
06-15-2002, 01:40 AM
That is one cobra, here is another....
Also from same board.

"Wow!!! My buddy ran against a 2003 Mustang Cobra at the track last night a few times and the best the guy in the new Cobra did was 13.3 @ 108."

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Snorman
06-15-2002, 02:11 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">posted by Aeromaks
"Wow!!! My buddy ran against a 2003 Mustang Cobra at the track last night a few times and the best the guy in the new Cobra did was 13.3 @ 108."</font>Yeah...his buddy's buddy's friend "ran against" one. Maybe the guy blew a shift, or blew the launch and grannied it down the track, or maybe he didn't. We don't know. The guy that's claiming 12.3@118 apparently owns the '03 Cobra. Unless he's lying, his info is first hand.
Funny...when I commented that two friends of mine saw that '03 at E-town run 12.0@119mph with a pulley swap I got flamed because it was second hand info (even when corroborated by Hunkins). So now we should believe the buddy's buddy who ran against one at the track?
I'll believe it more when I see it with my own eyes, but I have little doubt that times in this range will be common.
S.


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Antz97ZNJ
06-15-2002, 11:12 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Snorman:
posted by Aeromaks
"Wow!!! My buddy ran against a 2003 Mustang Cobra at the track last night a few times and the best the guy in the new Cobra did was 13.3 @ 108."</font>Yeah...his buddy's buddy's friend "ran against" one. Maybe the guy blew a shift, or blew the launch and grannied it down the track, or maybe he didn't. We don't know. The guy that's claiming 12.3@118 apparently owns the '03 Cobra. Unless he's lying, his info is first hand.

Some are calling BS on that guy on the corral, he has two 03 cobras, a viper, and a few other things...Must be nice..I think that those times are very posssible..seeing JDM ran a 12.4 stock w/ it...what i dont believe is how the guy says its feels more powerful then a Viper

94LightningGal
06-15-2002, 07:18 PM
How a vehicle "feels" is a purely subjective thing. A more upright vehicle, such as the Mustang, can "feel" very fast..... as does my Lightning, due to the push from the supercharged engine. When I have driven low slung sports cars (have test driven about everything), they have a tendency to not feel as fast...... even while going faster. May have something to do with the more laid back seating position.

I don't know..... this is just my observation. http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif

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Antz97ZNJ
06-16-2002, 08:46 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 94LightningGal:
How a vehicle "feels" is a purely subjective thing. A more upright vehicle, such as the Mustang, can "feel" very fast..... as does my Lightning, due to the push from the supercharged engine. When I have driven low slung sports cars (have test driven about everything), they have a tendency to not feel as fast...... even while going faster. May have something to do with the more laid back seating position.

I don't know..... this is just my observation. http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif

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On second thought I think its understandable, he owns a 96 viper which is 410 hp model i think...and the Cobra is a underated 390 hp.

IZ28
06-16-2002, 04:56 PM
When is some1 gonna run 1 of these things ALL stock with no mods at all?? When I hear those incredible claimed times from some1 that owns a Camaro and knows a stock 1 that did that, then I'll say OK.

WhooshStang
06-16-2002, 06:06 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IZ28:
When is some1 gonna run 1 of these things ALL stock with no mods at all?? When I hear those incredible claimed times from some1 that owns a Camaro and knows a stock 1 that did that, then I'll say OK.</font>

Re-read the thread. The Viper guy claims that his Cobra IS "ALL stock". The trap speed does admittedly seem high. However, why would someone who owns Vipers BS about his $35K Cobra? Denial is such an ugly thing...

IZ28
06-16-2002, 06:16 PM
Who knows?? The other guy ran a 13.3. Idiocy is such a stupid thing. At least it made it down the track without breaking. http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif So far. http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif

BlackPariah
06-17-2002, 09:09 AM
Even the Cobra boards are calling BS on this guy for his trap speeds. You'll notice his story changes from him going to a local track, to actually going with a friend and G-tech'ing the times.

He is excited about his new car, rightfuly so. I think he is just trying to get a rise out of all the Viper owners.

I think it was listed you would need nearly 500 HP at the crank to move a 4,000lb car that fast. I don't think this guy is telling the truth.


~Taylor

94LightningGal
06-17-2002, 03:57 PM
No, he has time slips from the track. After all the hoopla, he went out with a buddy who has a radar gun and ran it. 115 at the end of the 1320.

He also ran it on his GTech.

The general consensus is that the calibration at the track was wrong on the trap speed. This is hardly unheard of at tracks.

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Derek M
06-17-2002, 11:40 PM
His good times could be related to the track itself. Houston Raceway Park is 10 feet above sea level. I believe English town is right at sea level. You typically see great times cut from these tracks. Typically you'll see a little over 2 tenths difference from the Texas Motor Plex in Ennis TX versus HRP in Baytown TX. Anything's possible.

Now if the guy ran up in Denver and rans those times, Ford really really underrated the car or he's quoting 1/8th mile times http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif

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DarkAngel
06-18-2002, 08:59 AM
I guess I will post it hear to.

My brothers coworker just got out of training on the 03 Cobra. The official word from Ford is the hp is supposed to be 430hp and has the cobra R suspension. They also put the most restrictive exahust they could find on the car. One being so it is quiet, damn law makers, second, Ford feels that this car has the potential to hit the 11's, and Ford cannot be liable, nor sell a car that can do 11's in the 1/4 mi, so they put a exhaust system on that would rob all the power.

There is a post going around the corral where someone put a pulley, K&N air filter on the car and chipped it, and got very very impressive numbers from the car. Then there is the exhaust that can be done on top of that! Actually, I think everyone was saying its being written in the July or August MM&FF magazine.

Also, it was being tossed around on the site that an 03 cobra with slicks has been seen going down the track somewhere and breaking into the 11's. Unfortunately no other info than just that. Most people were saying it was stock, less the tires.

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Antz97ZNJ
06-18-2002, 11:28 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DarkAngel:
I guess I will post it hear to.

My brothers coworker just got out of training on the 03 Cobra. The official word from Ford is the hp is supposed to be 430hp and has the cobra R suspension. They also put the most restrictive exahust they could find on the car. One being so it is quiet, damn law makers, second, Ford feels that this car has the potential to hit the 11's, and Ford cannot be liable, nor sell a car that can do 11's in the 1/4 mi, so they put a exhaust system on that would rob all the power.

There is a post going around the corral where someone put a pulley, K&N air filter on the car and chipped it, and got very very impressive numbers from the car. Then there is the exhaust that can be done on top of that! Actually, I think everyone was saying its being written in the July or August MM&FF magazine.

Also, it was being tossed around on the site that an 03 cobra with slicks has been seen going down the track somewhere and breaking into the 11's. Unfortunately no other info than just that. Most people were saying it was stock, less the tires.

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that all has been known for quite awhile

guionM
06-18-2002, 01:09 PM
As I said in November (some of the testing was done out this way) the 2003 Cobra's advertized horsepower is underrated.

DarkAngel
06-18-2002, 04:23 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by guionM:
As I said in November (some of the testing was done out this way) the 2003 Cobra's advertized horsepower is underrated.</font>

Your right buddy! You've had it right since day one! http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif This is just the official claim Ford is teaching their techs. Ford will still advertise their 390hp to cover their butts. http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif

number77
06-18-2002, 05:09 PM
man this stuff scares me, but what i have that bring my head up is that all of the camaros never had super chargers and if you put one on them they would definetly excede the cobra

i8u
06-18-2002, 11:02 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by number77:
man this stuff scares me, but what i have that bring my head up is that all of the camaros never had super chargers and if you put one on them they would definetly excede the cobra</font>

They would need a lower compression ratio.Especially W/ a waranty.

Z284ever
06-18-2002, 11:47 PM
...and forged pistons wouldn't hurt.