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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Toyota recalling 3.8 million vehicles for floor mats

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By KEN THOMAS
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON — Toyota says it will recall 3.8 million vehicles in the United States to address problems with a removable floor mat that could interfere with the vehicle's accelerator and cause a crash. The company says it will be the largest recall in its history. Owners could learn about the safety campaign as early as next week.

Toyota and the government warned owners of Toyota and Lexus vehicles about safety problems tied to the removable floor mats. They say the mats could interfere with the vehicle's accelerator and cause a crash.

The recall will affect 2007-2010 model year Toyota Camry, 2005-2010 Toyota Avalon, 2004-2009 Toyota Prius, 2005-2010 Tacoma, 2007-2010 Toyota Tundra, 2007-2010 Lexus ES350 and 2006-2010 Lexus IS250 and IS350.

Owners should take out the floor mats on the driver's side and not replace them.

Toyota's previously largest recall was about 900,000 vehicles in 2005 to fix a steering issue.
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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Floor mats have been in cars for eons now. I don't really understand the problem with Toyota's???

Are they saying they can engineer all these wonderful fuel efficient vehicles that "everyone" loves like Prius and other hybrids except they can't engineer a mat that doesn't slip up and over the pedals?
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Actually my floor mats have metal rings and hooks in the floor to prevent this. Im surprised the other models do not.
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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I'm sure they'll claim it's an owner problem.
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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I'm sure they'll claim it's an owner problem.

they did
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Toyota needs to have car ownership rights and driving priveleges revoked for all its customers who don't know what the hell to do with an accelerator that gets stuck under a floormat.

We've been driving cars for eons that have OE floormats that (gasp) don't secure to the floor. We can also buy gigantic aftermarket floormats that don't fit well and slide easily. In the process, we should make that a criminal offense too.

And somehow we've become dumb enough to where we're suing car manufacturers because we can't save our own dumb asses from...ourselves.

Brilliant!
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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This happened in a push button lexus in my city, guy and all passengers died. He probably couldn't get the car to shut off, probably was panicking.

Though as already stated, this is nothing new, I've never had floormats in any of my cars.
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Actually my floor mats have metal rings and hooks in the floor to prevent this. Im surprised the other models do not.
Ford and Chevy do that
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 97QuasarBlue3.8
Toyota needs to have car ownership rights and driving priveleges revoked for all its customers who don't know what the hell to do with an accelerator that gets stuck under a floormat.
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcR94v6
This happened in a push button lexus in my city, guy and all passengers died. He probably couldn't get the car to shut off, probably was panicking.

Though as already stated, this is nothing new, I've never had floormats in any of my cars.
It had the push button start feature and since it was a loaner he was unfamiliar with it. His accident is the reason for the recall.
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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Here is an article stating the floor mat gets stuck under the accelerator.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33077383/ns/business-autos

Toyota Motor Corp. said Tuesday it will recall 3.8 million vehicles in the United States, the company’s largest-ever U.S. recall, to address problems with a removable floor mat that could cause accelerators to get stuck and lead to a crash.

The recall will involve popular models such as the Toyota Camry, the top-selling passenger car in America, and the Toyota Prius, the best-selling gas-electric hybrid.

Toyota said it was still working with officials with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to find a remedy to fix the problem and said owners could be notified about the recall as early as next week. Toyota spokesman Irv Miller said until the company finds a fix, owners should take out the removable floor mat on the driver’s side and not replace it.


“A stuck open accelerator pedal may result in very high vehicle speeds and make it difficult to stop a vehicle, which could cause a crash, serious injury or death,” Miller said.

NHTSA said it had received reports of 102 incidents in which the accelerator may have become stuck on the Toyota vehicles involved. It was unclear how many led to crashes but the inquiry was prompted by a highspeed crash in August in California of a Lexus barreling out of control. As the vehicle hit speeds exceeding 120 mph, family members made a frantic 911 call and said the accelerator was stuck and they couldn’t stop the vehicle.

“This is an urgent matter,” Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said in a statement. “For everyone’s sake, we strongly urge owners of these vehicles to remove mats or other obstacles that could lead to unintended acceleration.”

The recall will affect 2007-2010 model year Toyota Camry, 2005-2010 Toyota Avalon, 2004-2009 Toyota Prius, 2005-2010 Tacoma, 2007-2010 Toyota Tundra, 2007-2010 Lexus ES350 and 2006-2010 Lexus IS250 and IS350.

Toyota’s previously largest U.S. recall was about 900,000 vehicles in 2005 to fix a steering issue. The company declined to say how many complaints it had received about the accelerator issue.

The Japanese automaker warned owners that if they think their vehicle is accelerating out of control, they should check to see whether their floor mat is under the pedal. If a driver can’t remove the floor mat, Toyota advises drivers to step on the brake pedal with both feet until the vehicle slows and then try to put it into neutral and switch the ignition to accessory power.

For vehicles with engine start/stop buttons, Toyota said the engine can be shut off by holding the button down for three seconds.

In the August incident near San Diego, the fiery crash of a 2009 Lexus ES 350 killed California Highway Patrol Officer Mark Saylor, 45, and three others on State Route 125 in Santee. The runaway car was traveling at more than 120 mph when it hit a sport utility vehicle, launched off an embankment, rolled several times and burst into flames. One of the family members called police about a minute before the crash to report the vehicle had no brakes and the accelerator was stuck. The call ended with someone telling people in the car to hold on and pray, followed by a woman’s scream.

NHTSA investigators determined that a rubber all-weather floor mat found in the wreckage was slightly longer than the mat that belonged in the vehicle, something that could have snared or covered the accelerator pedal.

Toyota spokesman John Hanson said the final report had not yet been submitted in the California case.

“We don’t know what the actual cause was of that accident other than preliminary reports that have been published so it’s impossible for us to comment on that particular incident,” Hanson said.

In mid-September, Toyota ordered 1,400 Toyota and Lexus dealers nationwide to ensure that each new, used and loaner vehicles had the proper floor mats and that the mats were properly secured.

In September 2007, Toyota recalled an accessory all-weather floor mat sold for use in some 2007 and 2008 model year Lexus ES 350 and Toyota Camry vehicles because of similar problems.

For more information, consumers can contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s hotline at (888) 327-4236, Toyota at (800) 331-4331 or Lexus at (800) 255-3987.
I'm trying the best I can to picture in my head how this could happen. How could a floor mat get wedged under the gas pedal, somehow causing it to go WOT while also disabling the brakes and go completely unnoticed by the driver?

Even considering the drivers are your average, not paying attention, car clueless Toyota owner, its hard to grasp. Also WTF Toyota this is your second floor mat recall? WOW!

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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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I had this happen to me in a mid-90's Formula at the track once.

It was embarrassing.
Old Sep 30, 2009 | 06:47 AM
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I almost wrecked my mother-in-law's ES350 because of this issue once in a mall parking lot. She took out the floormats right after that.
Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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IS there a picture or animation of this, I don't get it either, how does a mat under a pedal get it stuck down?


My cheapo pontiac has a ring to prevent my mats from movie.
Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by super83Z
Here is an article stating the floor mat gets stuck under the accelerator.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33077383/ns/business-autos



I'm trying the best I can to picture in my head how this could happen. How could a floor mat get wedged under the gas pedal, somehow causing it to go WOT while also disabling the brakes and go completely unnoticed by the driver?

Even considering the drivers are your average, not paying attention, car clueless Toyota owner, its hard to grasp. Also WTF Toyota this is your second floor mat recall? WOW!

The floor mat could catch part of the pedal assembly and hold it down. It happened to me one time, but a quick kick of the pedal in the other direction remedied the problem immediately.



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