limited production vett

mpfarout
01-18-2003, 09:56 PM
i have seen some of the engine parts for this limited vett.next year look for a 500 plus[plus meaning 510 515]hp 6.6 vett.i was told it was set for 5000 limited.i was told it was the next motor for the c6.now being told and seeing is believing for me.but for all who read this. you may not belive.i do work in the detroit area.i cant say what parts i seen or where i seen them.this may be what will show up at chicago.sorry for no linkes or other stuff to back this up.

Z28x
01-18-2003, 10:17 PM
I hope your right, I think the LS1 bored and stroked maxes out at 396 or 6.6L, so that # sounds like it could be real. Plus the Silverado SS concept V8 was a 6.6L. 5000 seems like a lot for a limited production run. I think they make about 6000 Z06s. Dodge makes like 3K-4K Vipers I beleive.

guess who
01-18-2003, 10:34 PM
Dont think mpfarout is feeding you some BS..He has a good reason for saying what he did (not saying you are or anything).A lil food for thought would be this LINK (http://www.fast-autos.net/chevrolet/corvettewsmore.html) which isnt where he got his info....But it helps his reason for saying that the Vette will have this power/displacment..

He deserves a :bow: for letting you guys know about this.You might see it in Chicago who knows?

Do any of you BIG hitters of info know anything about this "yet"?...;) This is definately some inside info :D

Burmite
01-18-2003, 10:43 PM
But that's the Gen III small block in that concept. The Gen IV will be a completely new design and I have yet to see anytihng about the Gen IV yet. I am still doubtful about this info and its source. We've heard this rumor before though. I remember way back we didn't believe Red Planet until JasonD came out and confirmed the credibility of the source.

guess who
01-18-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Burmite
But that's the Gen III small block in that concept. The Gen IV will be a completely new design and I have yet to see anytihng about the Gen IV yet. I am still doubtful about this info and its source. We've heard this rumor before though. I remember way back we didn't believe Red Planet until JasonD came out and confirmed the credibility of the source.
Ill capture a screen shot for you to remember what you said;)

Trust him he is right on the money.I dont blame anyone for doubting anybody on the net.Rumors are like bung holes everyone has one.BUT He SAID he SEEN some of the parts that will be used for this car's engine.And If you can stop for a second and think about it , He didnt say I "HEARD" this car "might" be coming.He was told what the parts were for whence why he came here to tell you all about it.

Think of this as Red Planet Prt2 if you will.

guionM
01-18-2003, 11:52 PM
About a year or so ago, another member here (he'll mention who he is if he want's his name mentioned ;) ) said something about a 7.0 liter C6 engine being done over at GM Powertrain, and I recall something also mentioned at a Corvette site as well. This is independent of my own discovery of a larger displacement LS1 type engine being tested at GM, so I'd give mpfarout a tentative thumbs up in credibility. :D

Darth Xed
01-19-2003, 10:55 AM
I would not be surprised to see something new in the last C5, though GM tends to shy away from special engines(40th anniverdary Vette, 50th Annveridary Vette, etc) , they do tend to give the last year of a Corvette Generation something special...

Examples:

1962 Corvette.. last of the C1, has a 1-year only Fuel Injection Setup.

1967 Corvette.. last of the C2, first to have the 427.

1982 Corvette.. last of the C3, debuts the CrossFire engine for the upcoming C4.

1996 Corvette.. last of the C4, offered the LT4 motor... a one year only powerplant.

2004 Corvette.. last of the C5... ???

Very possible....

I also expect the tradition of the Collector Editiotn (82 & 96) to carry on for 04, and they might even do a Grand Sport or something like it... :think:

CLEAN
01-20-2003, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Darth Xed

1967 Corvette.. last of the C2, first to have the 427.



Close enough, but the 427 showed up for '66. You're probably thinking about the L88, which came in '67, and carried over into the early C3's.

Darth Xed
01-20-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by CLEAN
Close enough, but the 427 showed up for '66. You're probably thinking about the L88, which came in '67, and carried over into the early C3's.

:o Yes, I should have been more specific... I meant the mighty L88. :)

Thanks! :)

Cobraeater
01-20-2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by mpfarout
i have seen some of the engine parts for this limited vett.next year look for a 500 plus[plus meaning 510 515]hp 6.6 vett.i was told it was set for 5000 limited.i was told it was the next motor for the c6.now being told and seeing is believing for me.but for all who read this. you may not belive.i do work in the detroit area.i cant say what parts i seen or where i seen them.this may be what will show up at chicago.sorry for no linkes or other stuff to back this up.

Sounds like BS to me...

There's already info out about the Z-16 Commemorative Edition for 04.

Quote from ILUVLS1S

I got this info from Corvette Forum and Z06Vette.com.

NEW COLORS FOR 2004 (so far) 19U LEMANS DARK BLUE, 67U MACHINE SILVER AND GET THIS....86U, YEP, MAGNETIC RED METALLIC II COMING BACK and EVEN AVAILABLE ON Z06 TOO! TRYING TO GET MORE INFO BUT LOOK FOR THE "Z-16" COMMEMORATIVE PACKGE CORVETTE.....MORE SOON.......
THANKS ALL,
RICK "CORVETTE" CONTI
NOTE:
ALSO LOOK FOR A SPECIAL COLLECTORS EDITION LEATHER SEAT FOR Z06 (black) AND A SPECIAL SEAT/INTERIOR FOR COUPES AND CONVERTIBLES - SOMETHING CALLED "SHALE!?"
WAS JUST CONTACTED BY an outside source that is a good guy, don't think he would feed me any bull...said something about the Z16 Package for Z06 would be a 450HP car! The last Hurrah until the Z comes back in 2006.....that we'll have to wait and see...the other info I gave you , is right on!


Looks like the Corvette get's a 6.0 LS1 making 450 hp for 04.:bow:

As for mpfarout saying the 04 gets the Gen IV motor, NOT TRUE that's going into the C6!;)


It wouldn't surprise me that at the Chicago show they have a Z-16!:eek: :D

Chuck!
01-20-2003, 12:53 PM
Id be happy with one of those options. About time GM decides to take a little wind out of the Viper's sail.

Darth Xed
01-20-2003, 12:57 PM
I read that post on Corvette Forum too... sounds credible and all, but I was confused how the person wouldn't know what SHALE (50th anniversary interior color) was...

Unless, of course, it was meant as sarcasm or something :confused:

poSSum
01-20-2003, 01:13 PM
FWIW I pulled this out of the time capsule as instructed. Seems to fit.

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posted 07-04-2001 12:01 PM ___ __ ____ __ __ __
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After you read this it is not necessary to respond; only because it is not factual...just rumor. Nevertheless, this info has again arrived from the same source who said in 1999 that the LS6 was going into a new Corvette named Z06 in 2001. The same source stated that 2002 was the demise of the f-body at least one year before we first heard it. Lastly, in January 2001 (6 months before GM officially made an announcement) the source indicated a 20 HP jump for the LS6. So here goes: what is currently called an LS1 will be called an L68...368 cubes, 6 liter, 400hp, 390 lb/ft torque.
what is currently called an LS6 will be called and LS7....392 cubes, 6.4 liter, 450hp, 440 lb/ft torque.
Simply file this post in a time capsule and open it in about 18 months.

Ken S
01-20-2003, 02:02 PM
that would be awesome if GM did stroke out the LS1/6, and then offered the crank, rods, pistons,etc for a relatively cheap price in the GM Perf Parts cataloge... Plus the supporting hardware and the programming that "just so happens" to pass an OBDII scan too..... ;)

Cobraeater
01-20-2003, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by poSSum
FWIW I pulled this out of the time capsule as instructed. Seems to fit.

Interesting!:D

LS1 becomes L68, I thought LS2 would have been better, oh well.

I'm 95% sure the LS6 will become LS7.;)

number77
01-20-2003, 03:18 PM
if the L-68 replaces the LS1, i can only wonder what it would go in, unless gm decides to put it in all the base model vettes, but i don't think that they'd develop 2 engines for 1 car ,wahhoooo

Darth Xed
01-20-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by number77
if the L-68 replaces the LS1, i can only wonder what it would go in, unless gm decides to put it in all the base model vettes, but i don't think that they'd develop 2 engines for 1 car ,wahhoooo

Well, I think the idea is that the "L68" would be the base Corvette engine... and the "LS7" would be the "Z06" variant.

I also thought that the base 6.0 for the Vette was going to be called LS2.. :think: It was even noted on that mule car's dash from a few months back, as LS2...

I had also heard the term "LZ1" thrown around as well...

guionM
01-20-2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by number77
if the L-68 replaces the LS1, i can only wonder what it would go in, unless gm decides to put it in all the base model vettes, but i don't think that they'd develop 2 engines for 1 car ,wahhoooo

The next GTO, the next edition CTS, and whatever rear drive performance cars crop up in 2005-2007.

Check this out:
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=51268

Darth Xed
01-21-2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by cobraeater
Sounds like BS to me...

There's already info out about the Z-16 Commemorative Edition for 04.

Quote from ILUVLS1S

I got this info from Corvette Forum and Z06Vette.com.

NEW COLORS FOR 2004 (so far) 19U LEMANS DARK BLUE, 67U MACHINE SILVER AND GET THIS....86U, YEP, MAGNETIC RED METALLIC II COMING BACK and EVEN AVAILABLE ON Z06 TOO! TRYING TO GET MORE INFO BUT LOOK FOR THE "Z-16" COMMEMORATIVE PACKGE CORVETTE.....MORE SOON.......
THANKS ALL,
RICK "CORVETTE" CONTI
NOTE:
ALSO LOOK FOR A SPECIAL COLLECTORS EDITION LEATHER SEAT FOR Z06 (black) AND A SPECIAL SEAT/INTERIOR FOR COUPES AND CONVERTIBLES - SOMETHING CALLED "SHALE!?"
WAS JUST CONTACTED BY an outside source that is a good guy, don't think he would feed me any bull...said something about the Z16 Package for Z06 would be a 450HP car! The last Hurrah until the Z comes back in 2006.....that we'll have to wait and see...the other info I gave you , is right on!


Looks like the Corvette get's a 6.0 LS1 making 450 hp for 04.:bow:

As for mpfarout saying the 04 gets the Gen IV motor, NOT TRUE that's going into the C6!;)


It wouldn't surprise me that at the Chicago show they have a Z-16!:eek: :D


BTW: Z16 was the RPO code for the 96 GRAND SPORT... since I would assume a Collector Edition to be a given, it looks like Chevy may in fact, run two special editions like 96....

number77
01-22-2003, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by guionM
The next GTO, the next edition CTS, and whatever rear drive performance cars crop up in 2005-2007.


2005-2007, gotcha ;)

NC 91 Z28
01-22-2003, 07:28 PM
I hope the vette comes out with a viper beating package, it is about time it reclaims it rightful spot as the King Of the Hill once again!:cool:

kizz
01-24-2003, 08:59 PM
What's interesting is that the L68 and LS7 codes have already been used before, they're not new. The L68 was a 4-cylinder ;)

guess who
01-24-2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by kizz
What's interesting is that the L68 and LS7 codes have already been used before, they're not new. The L68 was a 4-cylinder ;)

OH NO!Dont tell us that chevy is going with the Supra formula for engine power!:eek:

I can see it now a twin turbo L68 ;)

Burmite
01-25-2003, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by guess who
OH NO!Dont tell us that chevy is going with the Supra formula for engine power!:eek:

I can see it now a twin turbo L68 ;)

Guess Who, I'm not trying to flame you or anything, I want to believe you, but you're giving contradicting info now with the twin turbo comment now. Which is making me trust you less as a credible source. Corvette is about naturally aspirated power and GM is producing a line of engines that will be high power, and NA. A twin turbo motor is contradicts this foundation.

Also it is known that GM powertrain has been developing larger displacement engines and has been displaying that within concept Corvettes including the Tiger Shark and the White Shark. The range of displacement I hear from this board ranges from 6.0L, 6.4L, 6.6L, to 7.0L. I've been at this board for a while, I think two years now and I've heard these figures be tossed around. But anyone could claim that the Corvette will have this certain motor and we would believe it due to the rumors we've heard. But I'm a trusting person, I'd want to believe you. I remember the whole controversey when Red Planet came on the board and many of us didn't believe him that it was someone high up on the Camaro food chain until Debler put his foot down and told us it was. In Debler, we trust. Now I would want to believe you on the 6.6L comment, but then anyone could say it. Mpfarout's lack of spacing and capitalization also looks suspicious to me while Red has perfect and proper grammar and spelling. But I'm a trusting individual.

But you comment on a twin turbo L68. Now if you are proposing 512hp for a 6.6L, that sounds about correct for a mild 6.6L LS6 engine. But a twin turbo 6.6L would have to be producing numbers over 700hp! I don't even think the Ferrari Enzo is making power like that. But you claim 512hp. I don't believe there is a market for a 700hp Corvette anyways. That seems silly. But anyways, that's a major contradiction right there if you're trying to feed us that information.

So its not that I'm trying to flame you. I want to believe you but I'm very suspicious and your contradictions are making me believe that you are not correlated with the Corvette team or GM powertrain, along with Mpfarout. But I DO want to believe you!

Can you tell us anything that would change my mind or prove your insider status?

1fastdog
01-25-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by mpfarout
i have seen some of the engine parts for this limited vett.next year look for a 500 plus[plus meaning 510 515]hp 6.6 vett.i was told it was set for 5000 limited.



NEXT year? I don't think so.

Z28x
01-25-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Burmite
But you comment on a twin turbo L68. Now if you are proposing 512hp for a 6.6L, that sounds about correct for a mild 6.6L LS6 engine. But a twin turbo 6.6L would have to be producing numbers over 700hp! I don't even think the Ferrari Enzo is making power like that. But you claim 512hp. I don't believe there is a market for a 700hp Corvette anyways. That seems silly. But anyways, that's a major contradiction right there if you're trying to feed us that information.

So its not that I'm trying to flame you. I want to believe you but I'm very suspicious and your contradictions are making me believe that you are not correlated with the Corvette team or GM powertrain, along with Mpfarout. But I DO want to believe you!

Can you tell us anything that would change my mind or prove your insider status?

I think when he was talking about a twin turbo L68, he was refering to the 4 cylinder L68. It was a joke.

Z28x
01-25-2003, 11:56 AM
Does anyone else think that 5000 untis is a lot for a 6.6L 512HP limited production Vette? I could see them making 500.

number77
01-25-2003, 04:35 PM
maybe 5000 is the amount of parts, (got to have spares)????

1fastdog
01-25-2003, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Z28x
Does anyone else think that 5000 untis is a lot for a 6.6L 512HP limited production Vette? I could see them making 500.

I think the number is high. For 2004 I'm guessing 0 will be the accurate number.

guess who
01-25-2003, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Z28x
I think when he was talking about a twin turbo L68, he was refering to the 4 cylinder L68. It was a joke.

Thank you,Some people cant take a joke:D :confused:

I was only kidding.

man he took that to heart didnt he ROTFLM_O