5th gen wheels on 4th gen???

bowtiepwr
07-30-2009, 01:44 PM
>I wonder what will look like???
I bet it looks good... anyone know if there are aftermarket replicas wheels avail yet?

reamo04
07-30-2009, 04:53 PM
ebay has some

BandDirector Blk98ZM6
07-31-2009, 07:31 PM
Just curious, what are the 5th gen wheel sizes, bolt pattern, and offset?

Injuneer
07-31-2009, 09:19 PM
I found this info on an auto review website:

Wheels/Tires


LS:
18 x 7.5-inch steel
P245/55R18 all-season

LT:
18 x 7.5-inch aluminum
P245/55R18 all-season

19 x 8-inch aluminum
P245/50R19 all-season

SS:
20 x 8-inch aluminum (front)
P245/45ZR20 summer (front)

20 x 9-inch aluminum (rear)
P275/40ZR20 summer (rear)

There is a post on the 5th Gen Wheels and Tires forum that indicates the bolt pattern is 5 x 120mm.

bowtiepwr
08-01-2009, 04:00 PM
...

SS:
20 x 8-inch aluminum (front)
P245/45ZR20 summer (front)

20 x 9-inch aluminum (rear)
P275/40ZR20 summer (rear)

There is a post on the 5th Gen Wheels and Tires forum that indicates the bolt pattern is 5 x 120mm.

>so will the 120mm fit our 4th gen F bods? (not to sure about the 120mm compared to 5 x 4 3/4).

n2ceptor
08-01-2009, 05:25 PM
>so will the 120mm fit our 4th gen F bods? (not to sure about the 120mm compared to 5 x 4 3/4).


120mm = 4.72" ?????:think:

bowtiepwr
08-01-2009, 08:31 PM
120mm = 4.72" ?????:think:
>ahhh so they will not fit.
:(

Injuneer
08-01-2009, 09:34 PM
This is a long standing debate. People have but BMW (and other 120mm bolt circle) wheels on 4th Gens (120.65mm bolt circle), and some claim they have no problems with them. Others have mentioned broken studs and the lugs coming loose. Sort of up to you to decide if you want to take a chance.

bowtiepwr
08-03-2009, 04:54 AM
This is a long standing debate. People have but BMW (and other 120mm bolt circle) wheels on 4th Gens (120.65mm bolt circle), and some claim they have no problems with them. Others have mentioned broken studs and the lugs coming loose. Sort of up to you to decide if you want to take a chance.
>I wonder if they had to "machine" the wheel stud holes out and use larger tapered lug nuts??? :think:

Injuneer
08-03-2009, 10:12 AM
The people who are installing the BMW wheels don't do anything. They just bolt them on. 0.65mm = 0.0256". Its a very small difference.

Bolting the wheels on will cause the studs to bend inward slightly, until the cone on the lug nut wears the hole off center. Or, the first lug nut will "center" the wheel incorrectly, and the other 4 studs will be bent to accomodate the wheel being slightly off center. The studs aren't designed for bending stress, they are designed for shear stress. Combine bending stress with shear stress and you may overstress the studs.

bowtiepwr
08-03-2009, 09:58 PM
> :eek:

350350
08-04-2009, 08:36 PM
The people who are installing the BMW wheels don't do anything. They just bolt them on. 0.65mm = 0.0256". Its a very small difference.

Bolting the wheels on will cause the studs to bend inward slightly, until the cone on the lug nut wears the hole off center. Or, the first lug nut will "center" the wheel incorrectly, and the other 4 studs will be bent to accomodate the wheel being slightly off center. The studs aren't designed for bending stress, they are designed for shear stress. Combine bending stress with shear stress and you may overstress the studs.

I wonder if anyone has thought of making a drill-bit tipped lugnut yet, like a self-tapping screw?

In the olden days, people used to also redrill their axle hubs for different bolt circles... So in other words you ended up with 2 sets of bolt holes 'clocked' as far apart as possible, kinda like a unilug wheel but on the axle side isntead... Cheap and easy if you had the patience to be sure you got the bolt circle centered. Not sure you could do this with fronts but for rears it might work?

But seriously though, the safety issue aside, I'd like to see what the 19x8's would look like on a 4th gen...

350350
08-04-2009, 08:46 PM
I wonder if anyone has thought of making a drill-bit tipped lugnut yet, like a self-tapping screw?

In the olden days, people used to also redrill their axle hubs for different bolt circles... So in other words you ended up with 2 sets of bolt holes 'clocked' as far apart as possible, kinda like a unilug wheel but on the axle side isntead... Cheap and easy if you had the patience to be sure you got the bolt circle centered. Not sure you could do this with fronts but for rears it might work?

But seriously though, the safety issue aside, I'd like to see what the 19x8's would look like on a 4th gen...

You know, the more I think about it, 4th-gen front hubs are stand-alone, right? You could drill a second bolt circle into a 'spare' set of hubs, right?

350350
08-04-2009, 08:54 PM
You know, the more I think about it, 4th-gen front hubs are stand-alone, right? You could drill a second bolt circle into a 'spare' set of hubs, right?

Like this with a 2nd bolt pattern drilled into it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-94-95-96-97-98-99-00-01-02-Camaro-Wheel-Hub-Bearing_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14 QQhashZitem518b29bde6QQitemZ350227119590QQptZMotor sQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

zero231
08-05-2009, 01:23 AM
I don't know about the 5th gen wheels, but I have heard the guys that use the bmw wheels on their f-bodies the right way use 'eccentric' lugnuts that swivel around a bit to center the wheel correctly...

350350
10-15-2009, 05:56 PM
I don't know about the 5th gen wheels, but I have heard the guys that use the bmw wheels on their f-bodies the right way use 'eccentric' lugnuts that swivel around a bit to center the wheel correctly...

One of the (many) voices in my head has given this 'swivel' eccentric lugnut thingie way too much thought and I don't believe you. I need pics!

Also anyone got pics yet of 5th gen wheels on a 4th gen??? I think I'd like to do it if it was mechanically sound.

350350
10-15-2009, 11:00 PM
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/wheels-tires/1157682-2010-camaro-wheels-fourth-gen-2.html

Here's what they might? look like?

No way 20's would fit. No way. 17x9.5's on my 95 Z28 were the max.