2010 Camaro SS tires

Darth Xed
07-13-2009, 10:11 AM
Can someone explain to me why, unless I am missing it, GM decided to install summer-only tires on the Camaro SS, and not even offer all-season performance tires as option?

Eric77TA
07-13-2009, 10:21 AM
I think it's the same deal with the RS package isn't it?

I wish they had an all season option. If I ever had the means to acquire one I'd likely just buy a winter wheel and tire set.

CLEAN
07-13-2009, 10:57 AM
Interesting, I had not noticed that A/S tires were not an option.

Koz2
07-13-2009, 11:38 AM
Can someone explain to me why, unless I am missing it, GM decided to install summer-only tires on the Camaro SS, and not even offer all-season performance tires as option?

I'm wondering if they did it to improve 3rd party test results/reviews. I know a lot of times we'll say "yeah, well the Z06 can probably do xxx better if it had xxx tires".

Same thing with my Cobalt SS. You want to drive in the snow? Buy another set of tires...

guionM
07-13-2009, 02:01 PM
Can someone explain to me why, unless I am missing it, GM decided to install summer-only tires on the Camaro SS, and not even offer all-season performance tires as option?

The Mustang Track Pack has the exact same tires (Pirelli P-Zero), only wider (255s compared to SS's 245s). These are very expensive tires, but the general consensus is that they are one of the best around (I can only personally vouch for my NT05s)

My understanding (and this is a perfect question for Scott, and hopefully he chimes in) is that
1st, the tires offer good rain traction, and
2nd, they are damn grippy tires.
3rd, (and this one's just a guess) wide tires... especially the 275 rears... are going to suck in snow regardless.

But then, if the issue is snow, then why not simply go out and get a pair of snow tires when the time comes? :shrug:

The Corvette Z06 doesn't offer all-season tires, and neither does Mustang GT with the Track Pack. I don't even think they came on the Cobalt SS, Bullit & Mach1 Mustangs, SRT8s, or a wide assortment of track capable performance cars from Ford, GM, or Chrysler, let alone import brands.

Besides, being originally from hilly Pittsburgh myself, I recall summer tires being useless only about 2 months per year. Since then, summer tires have gotten light years better and today's traction control systems do great job.

Darth Xed
07-13-2009, 02:10 PM
The Mustang Track Pack has the exact same tires (Pirelli P-Zero), only wider (255s compared to SS's 245s). These are very expensive tires, but the general consensus is that they are one of the best around (I can only personally vouch for my NT05s)

My understanding (and this is a perfect question for Scott, and hopefully he chimes in) is that
1st, the tires offer good rain traction, and
2nd, they are damn grippy tires.
3rd, (and this one's just a guess) wide tires... especially the 275 rears... are going to suck in snow regardless.

But then, if the issue is snow, then why not simply go out and get a pair of snow tires when the time comes? :shrug:

The Corvette Z06 doesn't offer all-season tires, and neither does Mustang GT with the Track Pack. I don't even think they came on the Cobalt SS, Bullit & Mach1 Mustangs, SRT8s, or a wide assortment of track capable performance cars from Ford, GM, or Chrysler, let alone import brands.

Besides, being originally from hilly Pittsburgh myself, I recall summer tires being useless only about 2 months per year. Since then, summer tires have gotten light years better and today's traction control systems do great job.


I understand the part about Z06's and such having summer only tires... really, who is gonna run that car in snow?

Even the Mustang with the track pack... you can still opt out of that track pack... after all, it is a purpose-built add-on package.

But, an 'everyday' Camaro SS is not what I'd lump into either of those catagories, and if I choose to buy this car for a year-round daily driver, I find it incredibly annoying that in order to do so, I'd have to address the tires for winter, whether it be with replacing the factory tires with an all-season tire, or buying another set of wheels, and then buying snow tires on top of that and rotating them out for the seasons.


I can understand this on the (hopefully) future Z/28 model............... but on the SS? I think this is a terrible oversight.


FWIW: back when I had my 99 Z28, I buoght a great set of Bridgestone Potenza RE730 summer only tires. They were FANTASTIC in non-snow weather... but when I had a LIGHT DUSTING of snow, they immediately became unusable... to the point of not being able to get out of the driveway.... I am only 1 hour away from Pittsburgh, and I am pretty confident in saying that without changing out the tires, the 2010 Camaro SS would be stuck in the garage a lot more than 2 months... more like 4+...

99SilverSS
07-13-2009, 02:42 PM
Depending on where you live they are all season. :p

formula79
07-13-2009, 03:13 PM
At Carlisle, they kept stressing that Pirelli makes great snow tires you can buy.

Z28x
07-13-2009, 03:36 PM
The Mustang Track Pack has the exact same tires (Pirelli P-Zero), only wider (255s compared to SS's 245s). These are very expensive tires, but the general consensus is that they are one of the best around (I can only personally vouch for my NT05s)

My understanding (and this is a perfect question for Scott, and hopefully he chimes in) is that
1st, the tires offer good rain traction, and
2nd, they are damn grippy tires.
3rd, (and this one's just a guess) wide tires... especially the 275 rears... are going to suck in snow regardless.

But then, if the issue is snow, then why not simply go out and get a pair of snow tires when the time comes? :shrug:

The Corvette Z06 doesn't offer all-season tires, and neither does Mustang GT with the Track Pack. I don't even think they came on the Cobalt SS, Bullit & Mach1 Mustangs, SRT8s, or a wide assortment of track capable performance cars from Ford, GM, or Chrysler, let alone import brands.

Besides, being originally from hilly Pittsburgh myself, I recall summer tires being useless only about 2 months per year. Since then, summer tires have gotten light years better and today's traction control systems do great job.

All great points. Where the all seasons would be nice though is on the V6 Camaro RS. That is a car that is going to be bought by a lot as a primary vehicle. Camaro RS is the Camaro I'd most likely buy.

Darth Xed
07-13-2009, 03:55 PM
Not even offering all season tires on any variation of the SS eliminates this car from someones shopping list who wants it for a daily driver in half or more of the country, without the buyer having to make a signifcant purchase aside from the car to correct this issue.


I honestly can't see any reason that they are not at least optional.

Blowing it off as a performance thing or saying to just go buy other tires is semi-nuts, because that's not a cheap thing to do, especially after going and buying a brand new car.

It's issues like this that this forum's gearhead-to-real-world-buyer disconnect really shines through sometimes. :lol:

CLEAN
07-14-2009, 12:10 AM
The Corvette Z06 doesn't offer all-season tires, and neither does Mustang GT with the Track Pack. I don't even think they came on the Cobalt SS, Bullit & Mach1 Mustangs, SRT8s, or a wide assortment of track capable performance cars from Ford, GM, or Chrysler, let alone import brands.


The F1 Supercar tires are only standard on the Z06 (and Z51 optioned cars), whereas if you order the base or F55 suspension, you get the softer, more capable in the wet F1 GS2 EMT's.

I'd be curious to know what the breakdown was on the 4th gen Camaros w/ regard to the split between the RS-As and GS-Cs on the Z28.