No Cobalt SS sedan for 2010

Z28x
05-07-2009, 09:51 PM
:( http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/07/booo-gm-also-canceling-cobalt-ss-sedan-for-2010/

V8 Slayer
05-07-2009, 09:51 PM
or HHR Panel SS..or STS-V or G6 GXP

Josh452
05-07-2009, 10:00 PM
This shouldn't come as a surprise as GM announced last year they got rid fo their special vehicle group.

97z28/m6
05-07-2009, 10:15 PM
:( i love the subtleness:think: of the sedan....total sleeper imo.

soul strife
05-07-2009, 10:28 PM
I always thought that these sport models where good money makers.

jmsjags
05-08-2009, 12:51 AM
an ss sedan? :think: it won't be missed...

mudbone
05-08-2009, 07:19 AM
an ss sedan? :think: it won't be missed...

Yeah, just like the Impala SS. Nobody misses those.... right? Idiot.

Caps94ZODG
05-08-2009, 07:23 AM
or HHR Panel SS..or STS-V or G6 GXP

the HHR panel I actually liked..the SS made it more appealing..a little hot rod shop parts hauler.. :D

The question is they did good performance wise but how did they do slaes wise?

jmsjags
05-08-2009, 07:58 AM
Yeah, just like the Impala SS. Nobody misses those.... right? Idiot.

i sure don't. the new impala's a shadow of its former self. but there also isn't a 2-door version of the impala ss. if u want a cobalt ss just get the coupe. looks better and performs better. for anyone looking for performance that sounds like win to me :shrug:

JeremyNYR
05-08-2009, 08:02 AM
Yeah, just like the Impala SS. Nobody misses those.... right? Idiot.

Do you just walk around all day calling people idiots for expressing their opinions about cars? I didn't even know they offered the Cobalt SS in sedan form, it seems to me like a strange combination of desires... performance and a fwd compact sedan. The larger old Impala SS was in a completely different segment, so I don't see how you equate the two. I'm sure there are more than two people that like the old Impala SS and don't even understand the existance of a Cobalt SS sedan... and IQ isn't a factor. If you mean the current Impala SS, well how many do you see on the road? People that like looking at a higher performance car doesn't keep a company in business. Sales are required!

jmsjags
05-08-2009, 08:06 AM
I didn't even know they offered the Cobalt SS in sedan form, it seems to me like a strange combination of desires... performance and a fwd compact sedan. The larger old Impala SS was in a completely different segment, so I don't see how you equate the two. I'm sure there are more than two people that like the old Impala SS and don't even understand the existance of a Cobalt SS sedan... and IQ isn't a factor.

exactly. SS is supposed to stand for super sport. that means it's supposed to be the best of the best performance wise with no compromises. if u want a fast cobalt sedan make it a "sport", but not super sport. ppl like mudbone that want to just throw "SS" on every car they see are the ones that ruin the moniker.

the cobalt ss coupe deserves to wear the SS badge based on its performance at the nurburgring. a fwd sedan though? just doesn't scream performance to me

Z28x
05-08-2009, 08:08 AM
Do you just walk around all day calling people idiots for expressing their opinions about cars? I didn't even know they offered the Cobalt SS in sedan form, it seems to me like a strange combination of desires... performance and a fwd compact sedan. The larger old Impala SS was in a completely different segment, so I don't see how you equate the two. I'm sure there are more than two people that like the old Impala SS and don't even understand the existance of a Cobalt SS sedan... and IQ isn't a factor.

I'd rather have the sedan than the coupe. More interior space. That car was a definite sleeper. Other than the wheels it looks like an LTZ Cobalt, but with a 260HP turbocharged engine :devil:

jmsjags
05-08-2009, 08:10 AM
I'd rather have the sedan than the coupe. More interior space. That car was a definite sleeper. Other than the wheels it looks like an LTZ Cobalt, but with a 260HP turbocharged engine :devil:

that's fine and dandy but there should only be 1 "SS" in each model lineup. make the fastest one SS and another can be sport. i don't necessary agree with the General getting rid of this car but it shouldn't have been called SS from the start

97z28/m6
05-08-2009, 08:33 AM
that's fine and dandy but there should only be 1 "SS" in each model lineup. make the fastest one SS and another can be sport. i don't necessary agree with the General getting rid of this car but it shouldn't have been called SS from the start
you do know its just as fast right?

STOCK1SC
05-08-2009, 09:20 AM
I love all the people who make themselves look stupid trying to comment on a car when it's obvious they know nothing about it. Fact is the Cobalt SS sedan or coupe both deserve the SS name they are within 40lb's of each other and run the same times and both can reach over 150mph. Put them on a road course with a brand new SS Camaro and see if you can pull away from one. The Camaro beat it around the Nurinburg by 1-2 seconds, if that doesn't impress you I don't know what will. As for Impala SS's I see them everywhere, check the autotrader website and there are 50 within 100 miles for sale used, run one of the new ones against the 90's model and see who's in front by a wide margin. Old Impala's could barely get over 140mph, new ones go 156mph. Point is these cars are just as fast as the hallowed SS cars of the 60's if not faster and in the case of the cobalt will embarrass them in the handling dept.

97z28/m6
05-08-2009, 09:37 AM
I love all the people who make themselves look stupid trying to comment on a car when it's obvious they know nothing about it. Fact is the Cobalt SS sedan or coupe both deserve the SS name they are within 40lb's of each other and run the same times and both can reach over 150mph. Put them on a road course with a brand new SS Camaro and see if you can pull away from one. The Camaro beat it around the Nurinburg by 1-2 seconds, if that doesn't impress you I don't know what will. As for Impala SS's I see them everywhere, check the autotrader website and there are 50 within 100 miles for sale used, run one of the new ones against the 90's model and see who's in front by a wide margin. Old Impala's could barely get over 140mph, new ones go 156mph. Point is these cars are just as fast as the hallowed SS cars of the 60's if not faster and in the case of the cobalt will embarrass them in the handling dept.
EXACTLY. also keep in mind a cobalt ss sedan would absolutely destroy a impala SS.

STOCK1SC
05-08-2009, 10:05 AM
EXACTLY. also keep in mind a cobalt ss sedan would absolutely destroy a impala SS.
On a race tack yes, straight line(newer Impala SS's) they would be about even all the way to top speed. Impala might actually get there a bit faster but not entirely sure, would be close though.

bossco
05-08-2009, 10:21 AM
Jeez, what a tough crowd commenting on Autoblog.

Is there any word on the Cruze getting the SS treatment? it'd be a real shame to let the SS Cobalt die off without a replacement that at least matched its performance.

z28 justin
05-08-2009, 10:36 AM
Lame! I was hoping to get one of these in a year or two as a family hauler (2-doors aren't good for baby seats)

Eric77TA
05-08-2009, 10:59 AM
Lame! I was hoping to get one of these in a year or two as a family hauler (2-doors aren't good for baby seats)

Just look for a lightly used one.

With two kids myself, I was looking at one at the local dealership a while back but it was nearly $27,000. The resale hit on a new one would probably be gigantic. I bet used ones will be going for under 20k in the near future.

Z28x
05-08-2009, 11:01 AM
that's fine and dandy but there should only be 1 "SS" in each model lineup. make the fastest one SS and another can be sport. i don't necessary agree with the General getting rid of this car but it shouldn't have been called SS from the start

What not??? It is one of the fastest sedans ever built for Chevrolet. It is faster than the LT1 1994-1996 Impala SS and faster than any Chevy sedan from the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's ,90's. The only thing faster than a Cobalt SS is the LS4 V8 powered Impala SS.

Z284ever
05-08-2009, 11:07 AM
that's fine and dandy but there should only be 1 "SS" in each model lineup. make the fastest one SS and another can be sport. i don't necessary agree with the General getting rid of this car but it shouldn't have been called SS from the start

I disagree. If I were in the market for a Cobalt SS - I'd prefer the sedan to the coupe.

STOCK1SC
05-08-2009, 11:21 AM
Just look for a lightly used one.

With two kids myself, I was looking at one at the local dealership a while back but it was nearly $27,000. The resale hit on a new one would probably be gigantic. I bet used ones will be going for under 20k in the near future.Yeah they are going for under $20k with 100 miles on them, saw one last week for $18k with 3k miles on it. Since the dealerships don't want to sell them I'll probably save a few thousand and get one with under 5k miles for $5K-$6K less than the dealership.

Eric77TA
05-08-2009, 11:27 AM
Yeah they are going for under $20k with 100 miles on them, saw one last week for $18k with 3k miles on it. Since the dealerships don't want to sell them I'll probably save a few thousand and get one with under 5k miles for $5K-$6K less than the dealership.

Yeah, that's kind of what I figured. Great used car value if you don't have to take the initial depreciation hit.

jg95z28
05-08-2009, 11:28 AM
I disagree. If I were in the market for a Cobalt SS - I'd prefer the sedan to the coupe.

X2!
Is there any word on the Cruze getting the SS treatment? it'd be a real shame to let the SS Cobalt die off without a replacement that at least matched its performance.

If they don't offer a Cruze SS, they are dropping the ball! My current plan is to buy a Camaro SS and then a 4-door sports sedan for a daily driver 18-24 months later. Cruze would be at the top of the list if they offer an "SS" version.

Z28x
05-08-2009, 11:33 AM
If they don't offer a Cruze SS, they are dropping the ball! My current plan is to buy a Camaro SS and then a 4-door sports sedan for a daily driver 18-24 months later. Cruze would be at the top of the list if they offer an "SS" version.

They had one at the Paris autoshow (minus the badges)

http://www.rpmgo.com/images/chevrolet_cruze_paris.jpg
http://indianautosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/chevrolet-cruze-paris-13.bmp
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/SOPG1HGWOVI/AAAAAAAA8Lk/yCA-x7p0DY4/s400/Chevrolet-Cruze-Paris-12.jpg

Koz2
05-08-2009, 11:46 AM
^^^ That was a Cruze SS? Looks like a normal Cruze to me, but I do see some big brakes on it, and perhaps different wheels?

Anyway, I thought I read on a Cobalt forum that the SS was done after '09, both sedan AND coupe...

I wonder if it'll be kinda cool to have one of these 20-30 years from now, kinda like a Grand National (or is GNX more appropriate?) vs a Regal from the 80s

97z28/m6
05-08-2009, 11:48 AM
^^^ That was a Cruze SS? Looks like a normal Cruze to me, but I do see some big brakes on it, and perhaps different wheels?
thats the rumor..

OutsiderIROC-Z
05-08-2009, 12:04 PM
Oh well.

jg95z28
05-08-2009, 01:01 PM
They had one at the Paris autoshow (minus the badges)

http://www.rpmgo.com/images/chevrolet_cruze_paris.jpg
http://indianautosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/chevrolet-cruze-paris-13.bmp
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/SOPG1HGWOVI/AAAAAAAA8Lk/yCA-x7p0DY4/s400/Chevrolet-Cruze-Paris-12.jpg
I hadn't heard the rumor that it was an SS minus the badges. I'll say this much, if GM offers a Cruze with that wheel and brake package, I'd definitely consider it, regardless of what its called. :D

1fastdog
05-08-2009, 01:30 PM
I hadn't heard the rumor that it was an SS minus the badges. I'll say this much, if GM offers a Cruze with that wheel and brake package, I'd definitely consider it, regardless of what its called. :D

I had the chance to look the Cruze over carefully at NAIAS. I think the car is spot on, and the interrior is very nice.

I have not heard the car is an unbadged SS.

I do think it's a nice car, no doubt about it.

guionM
05-08-2009, 01:57 PM
exactly. SS is supposed to stand for super sport. that means it's supposed to be the best of the best performance wise with no compromises. if u want a fast cobalt sedan make it a "sport", but not super sport. ppl like mudbone that want to just throw "SS" on every car they see are the ones that ruin the moniker.

the cobalt ss coupe deserves to wear the SS badge based on its performance at the nurburgring. a fwd sedan though? just doesn't scream performance to me

Sir, you have a pretty warped idea of what performance is, and I'm sure Fbodfather could give you more than a short lesson on what "SS" is or isn't.

There is no such thing as SS being a "no compromises" vehicle. Never has been. SS has been a sport package first and foremost. Camaros came in SS350 packages. 80s era Monte Carlo SS came fully loaded. the 90s Impala SS was essentially a fast luxury car that handled.

Chevrolet decided only a few years ago that the SS badge would represent in addition to great handling and performance, a unique engine.

The Cobalt sedan certainly DESERVES to wear the "SS" badge.

The Cobalt SS sedan is IDENTICAL to the coupe in components, and very close in weight. If the Cobalt SS coupe can carve up the Nurburgring, then certainly so can the sedan.

The number of doors isn't an issue to the SS badge (90s era Impala SS?). The wheels being driven are not an issue to the SS badge (the popularity of SRT4 Neons and tuner cars should prove that).

I think people like mudbone actually know and understand the realities and history of not just the SS label, but of performance as well.


Getting off facts, and to just opinion, I think the Cobalt SS sedan is fantastic. I suspect any critic that got a spin in or drove one, they'd likely change their tune. Although the quality of some of the interior materials leave alot to be desired, the GM Performance Division seats are top drawer in comfort and grip. The shifter is one of the better ones I've felt in a FWD car. The engine and acceleration is simply off the hook!

If there was ever a sleeper car that you wanted to go around destroying egos, the Cobalt SS sedan is THE car to do it in.

I understand the "WHY'S" on GM killing the car. Buyers of fast FWD cars overwhelmingly want alot of "Look-at-me" factored into the looks, and the Cobalt SS is about as eye-catching as a utilities fleet car. The thing simply isn't selling... and most enthusiast don't even know it exists (I didn't even know it existed till last year's LA press preview). But in the future, these are going to be the Cobalts worth money. It's rare, it's quick as heck, and since most people were unaware of the things, they'll be special intrest cars.

Caps94ZODG
05-08-2009, 11:26 PM
and they will be cheap since they are not on the radar..would be a good DD in 5 years time..

mudbone
05-09-2009, 07:00 AM
Do you just walk around all day calling people idiots for expressing their opinions about cars? .... If you mean the current Impala SS ...

I did mean the old LT1 Impala SS. I wasn't too clear about that. As to the "idiot" comment, I must have been in a foul mood:) Of course, anyone is entitled to their opinion. I happen to think four-door SS vehicles are fine -- even desirable.

murphy4
05-12-2009, 03:16 AM
So I have read several blogs that the Cobalt SS turbo sedan is history after the 2009's roll off the assemly line. Big, bad mistake on GM's part. I own a new 2009 SS turbo sedan and I am loving it every minute I crank up the engine. This car is a real sleeper. Great engine, excellant brakes, great steering and lateral grip with those big, fat tires. The seats are fantastic with very good support in the back and bottom. Very comfortable for such a small car out on the highway. So GM has not been selling them very well and no wonder since they do not advertise the car. Many enthusiasts do not even know this car exists. So what can GM expect? GM is really sliding into a bottomless pit. It has been poorly managed for the past 40 years. I understand that with the government stepping in to now manage GM GM's performance operations have been shut down and now they are going to produce nothing but Prius copies. Another BIG, BAD move on GM's part. If this keeps up GM will finally fade into history to join Packard and Studebaker. Then at least I will have a clear conscience to buy a Honda Accord but it will never ever be the exciting car my 2009 Cobalt SS turbo sedan is.

STOCK1SC
05-12-2009, 09:15 AM
So I have read several blogs that the Cobalt SS turbo sedan is history after the 2009's roll off the assemly line. Big, bad mistake on GM's part. I own a new 2009 SS turbo sedan and I am loving it every minute I crank up the engine. This car is a real sleeper. Great engine, excellant brakes, great steering and lateral grip with those big, fat tires. The seats are fantastic with very good support in the back and bottom. Very comfortable for such a small car out on the highway. So GM has not been selling them very well and no wonder since they do not advertise the car. Many enthusiasts do not even know this car exists. So what can GM expect? GM is really sliding into a bottomless pit. It has been poorly managed for the past 40 years. I understand that with the government stepping in to now manage GM GM's performance operations have been shut down and now they are going to produce nothing but Prius copies. Another BIG, BAD move on GM's part. If this keeps up GM will finally fade into history to join Packard and Studebaker. Then at least I will have a clear conscience to buy a Honda Accord but it will never ever be the exciting car my 2009 Cobalt SS turbo sedan is.Aggree totally and I'll go one step further by saying this is the best Chevy out there right now for the money. I find myself liking this car more than the new Camaro. For one I don't feel like I'm in a coffin in it, I can see out from every angle for safety reasons, it will outhandle the Camaro, it is stealthy(see how many miles you can go without being pulled int he new Camaro) Insurance is cheaper, I can hang my arm out the window without dislocating it, I can fit stuff in the trunk without being a Tetris master. I can actually fit 2 people in the back and not have to give them a flashlight to see. With the exception of straight line speed the Cobalt SS does everythign I need just as good or even better than the Camaro does, for $10k less. When the stage 1 upgrade comes out the car will be putting down 290hp and over 320 ft lb's in a 2900lb car and still keep your warranty.

Darth Xed
05-12-2009, 09:28 AM
FWIW, I think I've seen a grand total of TWO Cobalt SS sedans on the road...

...............and I even live in the area that builds them...............

mudbone
05-12-2009, 11:19 AM
FWIW, I think I've seen a grand total of TWO Cobalt SS sedans on the road...

...............and I even live in the area that builds them...............

That is a real shame. Truth be told -- I've never even seen one. I would love to drive one too.

Koz2
05-12-2009, 11:37 AM
I don't think I've seen a Cobalt SS sedan on the road yet. I've probably seen the turbo coupes on the road 5 times or so.

NEWBIE T/A
05-15-2009, 09:03 PM
Aggree totally and I'll go one step further by saying this is the best Chevy out there right now for the money. I find myself liking this car more than the new Camaro. For one I don't feel like I'm in a coffin in it, I can see out from every angle for safety reasons, it will outhandle the Camaro, it is stealthy(see how many miles you can go without being pulled int he new Camaro) Insurance is cheaper, I can hang my arm out the window without dislocating it, I can fit stuff in the trunk without being a Tetris master. I can actually fit 2 people in the back and not have to give them a flashlight to see. With the exception of straight line speed the Cobalt SS does everythign I need just as good or even better than the Camaro does, for $10k less. When the stage 1 upgrade comes out the car will be putting down 290hp and over 320 ft lb's in a 2900lb car and still keep your warranty.


I have to agree w/ you , sad to say ! :(

I knew I liked the Cobalts (SS's ) as I had driven a supercharged version at the Auto Show in Motion. That's on a short course , which means limited romp time, and, of course, the turbo car has more power. :yes:

The coupe is hard to see out of the back, though, and due in large part to this thread I may have to shell out some dough for a sedan ! :lol:

The lack of gauges is a bummer, though, as well as the lack of a center console.

The fun factor is through the roof - when the turbo comes on that car feels GREAT !!!!!!! , and the 5 speed adds to it - the whole shifting/clutching action just makes you feel more a part of the driving experience.

Not that my auto SS can't be fun , but in a different way.

(Look ma - no hands ! :p )

They did not offer much off sticker - I guess due to the $ 2500.00 rebate or 0% offer they currently have.

I am in a quandry now as I really don't want to sell or trade in the Camaro, but really don't have room for 4 cars, or really need a car payment.


Dammit, I sure like that Cobalt, though ! :think:


Britt

cmg06s
05-15-2009, 11:00 PM
Yeah, just like the Impala SS. Nobody misses those.... right? Idiot.

Nobody does miss those. Idiot. Those things are a shell of former Impala SS's. The SS badge doesn't deserve to be on anything FWD..... end of story. Idiot.

Fbodfather
05-16-2009, 11:34 PM
Sorry -- my patience is wearing thin these days -- so I got to about a dozen posts and then said ."oh welll........." --

Did anyone read the Motor Trend article on the Cobalt SS sedan back a month or two ago?

Now - -I don't believe a lot of what I read.......

What I DO know is that we took a Cobalt SS sedan out to Spring Mountain Motorsports Park to do a performance video last August -- this was a pre-production sedan -- and I -- as well as the professional instructors - -were blown away by this car -- (remember.....Dr. John Heinricy was behind its creation...) --

........we'd put one in most auto shows and people would be amazed --

......the sad part -- very low sales --

...........and before someone says "well -- why didn't you advertise it?" I'll simply say -- 'read the papers'........

Great performer -- U.S. sales (total industry) went from 16.5 million to about 9.5 million annualized rate............that's when automobiles like this die.....

Highlander
05-18-2009, 07:42 AM
And very sad. I have been trying to promote this car locally because of it.

I have driven the car, although I have not punched it, being that they were new and honestly... it's the type of car that makes me say: "This is Chevrolet", forget about the SS name, CHEVROLET.

Corvette/Camaro and now the Cobalt.. UFFF... People are talking a lot about it. Please do not kill this excellent SS.

I hope the Cruze comes in like those pictures because that car is beautiful inside and out.

I may get killed but with the cobalt and its ride quality, I can't understand why hasn't it sold more than the corolla. This car rides great and handles very good (not talking about the SS this time). But people are too biased with the "almighty" toyocrap. Interiors are far worse than the Cobalt and people still complain about them.

NEWBIE T/A
05-27-2009, 02:10 PM
For giving me a payment for the next 6 years !! :cry:

At zero percent, though. :lol:

I pick up a Cobalt SS Sedan ;) tonight !


Britt

1990 Turbo Grand Prix
05-27-2009, 03:08 PM
For giving me a payment for the next 6 years !! :cry:

At zero percent, though. :lol:

I pick up a Cobalt SS Sedan ;) tonight !


Britt
Way to go!

Welcome to Cobalt SS ownership.

One of the most under-rated cars on the road, IMO.

Enjoy!