Supercharger

I want to Supercharger for my new Camaro. What is the most cost effective way without installing it myself? :cool:

um, pay somebody else to do it?

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it one be long until kits are available. I hae never installed one, but It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do.

it one be long until kits are available. I hae never installed one, but It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do.

Well if you are talking about the 2010 Camaro, then NO ONE (except GM) has ever installed one! If you are talking about 4th Gen Camaros, then there are already kits available!

ill let you know about kits in a few days. im in the middle of a negotiation with a certain s/c company.

The G8 Magnusson kits should provide a decent jumping off point for a Camaro kit.

I wonder if it would clear the hood...

I want to Supercharger for my new Camaro. What is the most cost effective way without installing it myself? :cool:
um, pay somebody else to do it?

Only answer I can think of. :shrug:


FWIW, keep in mind you can't simply slap a supercharger on a engine that has nearly a 11:1 or more compression ratio and is already wound near it's limit, and think everything is going to live happily ever after.

Outside of voiding the warranty 20 ways to Sunday, you throw more than a few pounds of boost into that engine, and go around drag racing it as if it were stock, and you're going to be in for a very expensive lesson on things like powdered metal, non-forged connecting rods among other things.

If you're serious, have a vault of money burning a hole in your FDIC insured bank, and your world won't cave in if GM refused to compensate you for engine or drivetrain damage, then pay for someone who knows what they are doing and does this stuff for a living.... in case you were thinking of that friend of a buddy down the street who odd car jobs on the side. Bad idea.

I want to Supercharger for my new Camaro. What is the most cost effective way without installing it myself? :cool:

I was not planning to take it too one of my buddies down the street. I think Hennessey is much too expensive. I want a professional installation at a reasonable price, any ideas would be appreciated.
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you haven't even driven the car yet and already you want to supercharge it?

you haven't even driven the car yet and already you want to supercharge it?

Dude, didn't you know low to sub 13 second factory cars are the new sloooooow :p

you haven't even driven the car yet and already you want to supercharge it?

I have a 2005 GTO with 400 horse, essentially the cars are the same except for the looks. I really want to purchase the LS-7 Z-28, but they don’t make it and it does not look like they will make it for at least 2 more years. So yes, I do want to up grade.

I was not planning to take it too one of my buddies down the street. I think Hennessey is much too expensive. I want a professional installation at a reasonable price, any ideas would be appreciated.
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livernoise motorsports in michigan does good work. i had them do my trans am.

you haven't even driven the car yet and already you want to supercharge it?

yes!

Dude, didn't you know low to sub 13 second factory cars are the new sloooooow :p

Just so you know, there will still be someone faster then you! So go ahead, have fun, spend alot of money to make the car 3 seconds faster, and of course have fun breaking alot of **** on a new car (weather it breaks or you wreck it).

I want to Supercharger for my new Camaro. What is the most cost effective way without installing it myself? :cool:

Wisdom might suggest that they best thing to do is to keep a 5th gen 100% stock. Buy a used 3rd or 4th gen and mod the life out of it.

you haven't even driven the car yet and already you want to supercharge it?

I have driven it and while I don't feel it needs a supercharger, I want to put one on mine. Forced induction is kind of like bacon. It always makes things better. ;);)

WOW! why is everyone so hateful on modding a 5th gen? If i want to throw a s/c on my camaro with less than 3k on it, then im gonna do it. and who said that it was going to be the fastest car around? putting a s/c on your car doesnt make it the fastest car. it makes it quicker but not the fastest. and as far as breaking things, any mods to a car should be expected to have the good times and the bad times. believe me, if someone is modding a car, they probably can afford to fix it if things go wrong.
im changing alot of things on my car as soon as i get it. not only a s/c but wheels, tires, suspension components, hood,spoiler, brakes. give the guy tips if hes wanting to s/c his car. dont tell him not to do it. because in the end he will do what he wants to.

I have a 2005 GTO with 400 horse, essentially the cars are the same except for the looks.

This is a long way from the real truth.

If you're looking at the spec sheet, the cars have several similarities (LS engine, RWD, IRS, based on an Australian car, etc etc). In reality, though, they are entirely different. I would be surprised if there is more than a couple parts in common, and those would be inconsequential internal engine components (for example, I think that the oil pump is the same from the LS2 in your GTO to the LS3 in the Camaro).

FWIW, keep in mind you can't simply slap a supercharger on a engine that has nearly a 11:1 or more compression ratio and is already wound near it's limit, and think everything is going to live happily ever after.

The LT1 has ~10.5:1, and while the engines were indeed finicky under boost, there are plenty of guys who have seen long lives out of a boosted stock engine. Intercooling will be a must, but as long as it's tuned properly, there isn't any reason the engine can't survive. The key is the tune. You try to cheap out, and kaboom.

But I'd prefer to put the charger on after the warranty expires, to avoid any potential warranty issues down the road, if this were my car. But I can't wait to read about the numbers put down by new camaros with forced induction. :D

my ls1 trans am had 15k on the motor before i put a s/c on it and i had about 45 on it when i sold the car. i had no problems whatsoever. i had it tuned at livernoise motorsports in michigan and they did an amazing job.i was putting down 420 to the wheels. im expecting about 500 to the wheels on a s/c 5th gen. with no other mods. id like to get to 525-550 rwhp.

Just so you know, there will still be someone faster then you! So go ahead, have fun, spend alot of money to make the car 3 seconds faster, and of course have fun breaking alot of **** on a new car (weather it breaks or you wreck it).

I was being facetious, hence the " :p ", then again I forgot posting on the interwebz is serious business! :p

In any event my post was more in reference to a very broad and silly notion that sub 14 second cars aren't fast. That for some reason "fast" is a moving target that needs to be redefined with every new model that comes out.

I think a Camaro with enough ponies to take down the GT500 would be sufficient for me.... say oh 570ish

The Magnusson kits work pretty well and are nicely designed. Since they make one for the GTO & the G8 GT, they will probably be your best bet since they are very similar to the 2010 SS. I was pretty amazed at how similar the underhood area is between the cars. I put one on my 05GTO and did it myself. It was relatively easy. Took about 2 days of taking my time. Ignore the haters. I plan on doing something similar, just waiting for the initial rush to calm down before I order my SS. I may go w/an APS turbo kit this time. The newer generation screw type maggies are greatly improved for street use. It made the car a very driveable street monster. Torque everywhere. Ended up putting drag radials on full time to increase my survivability. :)

Dude, didn't you know low to sub 13 second factory cars are the new sloooooow :p


To some people, like myself, a 13 second quarter mile is pretty slow.

I'm used to riding a sport bike, and am used to being the fastest thing on the road at any given time, a 13 second quarter mile just doesn't do it. To me, buying a brand new Camaro for $30, 000, and being able to only do a 13 second quarter mile, well...just sucks.

To the guy that wants to do this though, I don't know about supercharging just yet, wait a while and learn from people's mistakes.
On the other hand, to satisfy yourself for now, there are some pretty sweet cam kits out there, that have made some pretty impressive results with the ls3 engine. You can get that power NA pretty easily if you got a little money.

I can totally understand where you are coming from with wanting to supercharge it though:cool:

for 30k and running 13 with the camaro, thats a hell of a deal. especially with everything it comes with. anything faster is going to be in the mid 40+ range( corvette,gt500,z06,gtr(70+)) im gonna be one of those guys who does the s/c and you can all learn from my benefits. :)

I would see what GM is going to offer in the next year as far as Superchargers. If they have any in the works, they should come within the next year or so. What kind of HP do you think would be comin out of a Supercharged SS?

I would see what GM is going to offer in the next year as far as Superchargers. If they have any in the works, they should come within the next year or so. What kind of HP do you think would be comin out of a Supercharged SS?

I think that we can look at the LSA (556hp) and LS9 (638hp) for those answers. Those engines are little more than an LS3 plus a supercharger/intercooler and some upgrades to handle the power.

I think that we can look at the LSA (556hp) and LS9 (638hp) for those answers. Those engines are little more than an LS3 plus a supercharger/intercooler and some upgrades to handle the power.

Thats some serious power...Wish I could afford all these things, lol

There is a thread in the 5th gen forums on ls1tech with a TVS i believe being put on a 5th gen. Should be tuned soon.
edit:http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/2010-camaro/1112404-first-2010-camaro-tvs-2300-system-oh-yeah.html

I think that we can look at the LSA (556hp) and LS9 (638hp) for those answers. Those engines are little more than an LS3 plus a supercharger/intercooler and some upgrades to handle the power.
in the last pod cast, fitzpatrick said they were/would concider having a supercharger through gmpp for the camaro. i hope it happens. that would be nice to have a supercharger that still stays under warranty. kinda like nissan with NISMO and bmw with dinan.

Just so you know, there will still be someone faster then you! So go ahead, have fun, spend alot of money to make the car 3 seconds faster, and of course have fun breaking alot of **** on a new car (weather it breaks or you wreck it).

you sound so jealous, just so you know

for 30k and running 13 with the camaro, thats a hell of a deal. especially with everything it comes with. anything faster is going to be in the mid 40+ range( corvette,gt500,z06,gtr(70+)) im gonna be one of those guys who does the s/c and you can all learn from my benefits. :)


You better post pics and results cause that's gonna be badass!

I haven't even seen one in person yet.....gotta love livin in Canada...

You better post pics and results cause that's gonna be badass!

I haven't even seen one in person yet.....gotta love livin in Canada...

you havent see nwhat in person yet? the camaro? ill post pics when i getthe car(if i can figure out how). ill also do updates on all my mods i have done to it. wheels are coming in this weeke or next. and the rest of the parts will follow in the weeks to come.

in the last pod cast, fitzpatrick said they were/would concider having a supercharger through gmpp for the camaro. i hope it happens. that would be nice to have a supercharger that still stays under warranty. kinda like nissan with NISMO and bmw with dinan.

Not really. He was asked the question, paused and said blandly something along the lines of we may consider that. In the business world that is a no. There is no incentive for GM to warranty a product that will not likely gain them significant revenue. Of course if they end up building a supercharged Z28 then that is a different issue altogether. But then you are talking about a product that GM would make a healthy margin on so there is a risk reward calculation there.

Ford offers a warrantied supercharger for the GT (and the GT500 has a warrantied supercharger upgrade as well - I dont know what the kit is for the '10 GT500s, but on the prior cars it was a 100 hp upgrade).