ChrisL 03-07-2009, 05:51 PM Pics were taken by a member from another site. Instead of chasing the links, here they are in all their glory.
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91Zman 03-07-2009, 05:58 PM :eek: Awesome! I guess that those are going to be the hottest selling colors?! :cool:
ChrisL 03-07-2009, 06:03 PM looks like alot of V6 cars.
Capn Pete 03-07-2009, 06:04 PM Hmmm, I'm gonna have to go for a little "sight-seeing" drive at some point?! :eek: :lol: The only cars I saw last time I drove by were the ~dozen or two in the small compound (those pics were already posted on here as well). Hopefully I can get my hands on another one soon to check it out a little better ;) ...... with this many cars built now, I don't see what the problem with "availability" is?!?! :D
vuduman67 03-07-2009, 06:16 PM That looks to be about 150 to 200 cars. only say another 15800 to go to meet the preorders... Availlibility is still a little short ;) but were off to a good start!
Fbodfather 03-07-2009, 06:28 PM Isn't that a "purty sight???"
Those are Captive Test Fleet vehicles -- including the ones you've seen on transports in various parts of the country......
Yes - they have Window Stickers (better known as "Monroney Labels" -- but there are no separate prices or options printed out on the CTF vehicles as of yet......
NOW.........
To THOSE who said (and there were MANY ......)
"......The Camaro is DEAD -- it WON'T be back...."
(......and other such drivel.........)
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR WORDS (that you are going to eat) SERVED UP?
.......with an Alfredo sauce......
...........................or perhaps a marinara sauce..........
....................perhaps on "Toast Points????..................
....Or -- my PERSONAL favorite.........
WITH A SIDE OF 'SMOKED MUSTANG!'
ChrisL 03-07-2009, 06:30 PM Sure beats the hell outta this one.....
http://photos.imageevent.com/face440/lastfbodys/large/12.jpg
Mid-Life Crisis 03-07-2009, 06:56 PM Absolutely the best looking car available under $50K.
97z28/m6 03-07-2009, 07:18 PM Sure beats the hell outta this one.....
http://photos.imageevent.com/face440/lastfbodys/large/12.jpg
:(.
CLEAN 03-07-2009, 07:43 PM Beautiful! Now if they just had some Imperial Blues or Arctic Whites in there, me and the missus would be truely happy.
RobDarden 03-07-2009, 08:14 PM I just wish those were all the pre orders!!! Lots of LT's. Oh well, It is better for GM to get the dealers their samples to sell off of.
8Banger 03-07-2009, 08:48 PM Isn't that a "purty sight???"
Those are Captive Test Fleet vehicles -- including the ones you've seen on transports in various parts of the country......
Yes - they have Window Stickers (better known as "Monroney Labels" -- but there are no separate prices or options printed out on the CTF vehicles as of yet......
NOW.........
To THOSE who said (and there were MANY ......)
"......The Camaro is DEAD -- it WON'T be back...."
(......and other such drivel.........)
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR WORDS (that you are going to eat) SERVED UP?
.......with an Alfredo sauce......
...........................or perhaps a marinara sauce..........
....................perhaps on "Toast Points????..................
....Or -- my PERSONAL favorite.........
WITH A SIDE OF 'SMOKED MUSTANG!'
blackflag, this is for you BEYOTCH!!!! :lol::lol::lol:
SSPORT10 03-07-2009, 10:07 PM Just a gorgeous sight! A little over a week and production begins! Giddy up people!
BigDarknFast 03-07-2009, 10:39 PM What a beautiful sight :yes:
Something mystical about new cars at the factory, waiting to go out to eager owners :cool:
2010_5thgen 03-07-2009, 11:07 PM those are all fleet vehicles? are any of those going to dealerships?
HuJass 03-07-2009, 11:08 PM I really hopes GM pulls through.
I want one of those cars, just not right now.
Mighty 03-07-2009, 11:30 PM Isn't that a "purty sight???"
Those are Captive Test Fleet vehicles -- including the ones you've seen on transports in various parts of the country......
Yes - they have Window Stickers (better known as "Monroney Labels" -- but there are no separate prices or options printed out on the CTF vehicles as of yet......
NOW.........
To THOSE who said (and there were MANY ......)
"......The Camaro is DEAD -- it WON'T be back...."
(......and other such drivel.........)
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR WORDS (that you are going to eat) SERVED UP?
.......with an Alfredo sauce......
...........................or perhaps a marinara sauce..........
....................perhaps on "Toast Points????..................
....Or -- my PERSONAL favorite.........
WITH A SIDE OF 'SMOKED MUSTANG!'Okay, so they're back. Now who's going to buy them?
graham 03-08-2009, 12:26 AM Okay, so they're back. Now who's going to buy them?
Seems to be a loaded question. Care to unpack it?
monstertodd 03-08-2009, 12:55 AM Ok,
So I'm a little confused here. Production doesn't begin until March 16th? Why do we have all these captive test vehicles?
What exactly are all these captive test vehicles for?
Are they just testing out the production facility?
These cars aren't saleable right? So why make so many?
Just start production already! Sheesh!
flowmotion 03-08-2009, 05:06 AM I don't want to be a negative nancy, but neither Fbodyfather nor anyone else here can know what's really going to happen after the end of this month.
It's a depressing thought, but those of you who pre-ordered might end up with one of the most collectible cars in history.
SSPORT10 03-08-2009, 10:36 AM Ok,
So I'm a little confused here. Production doesn't begin until March 16th? Why do we have all these captive test vehicles?
What exactly are all these captive test vehicles for?
Are they just testing out the production facility?
These cars aren't saleable right? So why make so many?
Just start production already! Sheesh!
I would rather that they build all of those cars and make sure Q/A is very high! This should lead to sold ordered production cars being shipped even quicker with less Q/A holds once production starts next Monday.
King Moose SS 03-08-2009, 01:19 PM WOW, Camaro Heaven does exist.
JasonD 03-08-2009, 03:54 PM Brings a tear to my eye! :)
WhiteHawk 03-08-2009, 03:57 PM So s the plan to start filling ordered cars on the 16th?
Also, looks like a high of V6 cars there. Maybe this is the "dealer stock" getting built up. Didn't I read somewhere on here that the first cars to go to dealers will be V6?
-Geoff
guionM 03-08-2009, 04:26 PM Um... does it come in any other color than Red, Black, Yellow, & Grey?? :lol:
JasonD 03-08-2009, 04:52 PM Not on that day. ;)
Fbodfather 03-08-2009, 07:42 PM Um... does it come in any other color than Red, Black, Yellow, & Grey?? :lol:
Look again -- Orange and Imperial Blue Metallic.........
metal 03-08-2009, 09:17 PM Will these end up as 'program cars' or scrapped?
2010_5thgen 03-08-2009, 10:21 PM I don't want to be a negative nancy, but neither Fbodyfather nor anyone else here can know what's really going to happen after the end of this month.
It's a depressing thought, but those of you who pre-ordered might end up with one of the most collectible cars in history.
i would hate for anything to happen to the camaro's future but it would be a nice piece to start a collection with, if for some reason things dont work out so well. but im hoping for the best.
this is my way of stimulating the economy this year. im buying a new car and making wedding plans.
SSPORT10 03-09-2009, 12:53 AM this is my way of stimulating the economy this year. im buying a new car and making wedding plans.
I just wish there were more tax incentives for people to buy new domestic cars...that would really help out GM big time!
ronssito 03-09-2009, 12:59 AM :eek::eek:
Just Damn!
:cool::cool:
john stewart 03-09-2009, 11:10 AM Drove down the street yesterday to see for my self in person, what a site just awsome but i was a little sad in thinking thoses cars will all most likely go to the crusher and will never find a home. With all of them the thoght crossed my mind to get a car trailer and free one of them lol do you think they would miss just one lol.:p
JasonD 03-09-2009, 11:13 AM Drove down the street yesterday to see for my self in person, what a site just awsome
Got pics? :D
jg95z28 03-09-2009, 11:48 AM You'd think GM could loan one (or two) to this website for extended testing considering all the work they've done to support the new Camaro. ;)
Elvisuperman 03-09-2009, 11:53 AM Sure beats the hell outta this one.....
http://photos.imageevent.com/face440/lastfbodys/large/12.jpg
That is sad to see...:no:
one wicked element 03-09-2009, 12:33 PM I just hope it didn't snow or rain on those cars, otherwise they can NEVER be sold as "never seen a drop of rain".
;)
Solo II 03-09-2009, 10:38 PM Ok, I had to register to put your minds at ease. After showing these pictures to my boss,I was able to find out this much:
Each dealer is getting 1 car for a nationwide unveiling that will take place in early may. They are all V6's, the RS ones being autos, while the ones with sunroofs are 6-spd. The cars will be shipped to dealers completely at random. The idea is for every chevy dealer to have one in the showroom on that day for people to see and get excited over. I guess they felt that these will be the most popular colors.
Also, if you look closely the window stickers don't have info on them, just the standard "pricing info was not available at this time" message.
The good news is that I was specifically told these are NOT "program cars", as somebody else had originally came to that conclusion.
SSPORT10 03-09-2009, 11:17 PM Ok, I had to register to put your minds at ease. After showing these pictures to my boss,I was able to find out this much:
Each dealer is getting 1 car for a nationwide unveiling that will take place in early may. They are all V6's, the RS ones being autos, while the ones with sunroofs are 6-spd. The cars will be shipped to dealers completely at random. The idea is for every chevy dealer to have one in the showroom on that day for people to see and get excited over. I guess they felt that these will be the most popular colors.
Also, if you look closely the window stickers don't have info on them, just the standard "pricing info was not available at this time" message.
The good news is that I was specifically told these are NOT "program cars", as somebody else had originally came to that conclusion.
As per Scott, a.k.a. Fbodfather, they are Captive Test Vehicles. What Scott says IS fact!
Capn Pete 03-10-2009, 12:18 AM As per Scott, a.k.a. Fbodfather, they are Captive Test Vehicles. What Scott says IS fact!
Or it COULD be what he's told to tell us :p.
..... although I doubt it ;). He's been very straight and honest on everything he's told us all along :cool:.
As well, our neighbour at the plant has confirmed all along that the "official" production cars won't be built until the "official" production date ... which is still slated for March 16th, correct? Every car built before is NOT a car which can be licensed for regular street use.
Unless they're all just trying to pull the wool over our eyes, but I truly doubt it :rolleyes:.
The good news is that I was specifically told these are NOT "program cars", as somebody else had originally came to that conclusion.
Sorry bud, but you've gotta give us more than "my boss said" ... otherwise that's a 180° contradiction to everything that Scott et al have said up until now :shrug:.
Solo II 03-10-2009, 07:46 AM Sorry bud, but you've gotta give us more than "my boss said" ... otherwise that's a 180° contradiction to everything that Scott et al have said up until now :shrug:.
I'm a salesman at a chevy dealer. Upon finding these pics, I showed them to a few people at work, including the owner. Our inventory manager original assumed they were product cars, but the owner was very certain they were not.
Before I even pulled up the pictures, he knew that there would only be the 4 colors, and also knew they would be RS models or have sunroofs. All I know, is his version of why these cars are there was pretty convincing. Could these be for a completely different reason and just a coincidence they are set-up exactly like the dealer-unveiling cars? of course....but I don't think so.
Capn Pete 03-10-2009, 08:00 AM Like you said, the "facts" you got on these cars IS pretty close to the truth. However, they're not ALL V6's ;) (look at the very first couple of pics, and tell me you don't see a bunch of "hood scoops" in there) and I think the other main point we're stuck on is whether they're "sale-able, production" cars or not ..... I'm not disputing that they're probably ALL destined for the big unveiling, but will ANY of them ACTUALLY be sold to a paying customer? :shrug: According to everything we've heard so far, NO ... because they're not "production models" (yet).
I wouldn't be so sure of that except that we've all heard it from Scott, AND my neighbour pretty much said the same thing (March 16th).
detroitboy 03-10-2009, 10:22 AM GM isn't about to produce that many vehicles ($$$$$$) to be put in the crusher later. The cars have already been evaluated by employees in the test fleet. These cars are being built for mass release to the dealers.....and they will just do the paperwork on them and add the door stickers with VINS etc. after March 16th. The VIN plates on the dash are produced in advance and were installed at assembly. Do you really think GM would want to be put under the microscope by Senator Shelby and the Pelosi California Hippies for producing another 200 cars for the scrapyard a week before production begins? After they made Rick Wagoner car pool to Washington? I think not.
Just my humble (but common sense) opinion.
Solo II 03-10-2009, 11:25 AM While I don't know it to be fact, I highly doubt that these cars are destined for the scrapyard. Even the pace-cars will eventually be sold, so it stands to reason these will too.
And I also questioned the vehichles that have hoodscoops, and was told that the scoop is part of the RS package...however, if you look at the pics again, there's a red one that clearly has an "SS" badge on the back....something I will have to bring up with the boss later.
ChrisL 03-10-2009, 11:28 AM And I also questioned the vehichles that have hoodscoops, and was told that the scoop is part of the RS package...however, if you look at the pics again, there's a red one that clearly has an "SS" badge on the back....something I will have to bring up with the boss later.
Scoop (non functional) is on the V8s only. It is not part of RS content on either V6 or V8. Do your own legwork, and no need to point out to the boss he was wrong. The info is out there.
merlinsteele 03-10-2009, 11:44 AM Nice sight to see, those pics with all those Camaros. I can't wait to see them on the road. :cool:
jg95z28 03-10-2009, 11:49 AM I'm a salesman at a chevy dealer. Upon finding these pics, I showed them to a few people at work, including the owner. Our inventory manager original assumed they were product cars, but the owner was very certain they were not..
Which dealership? I'd like to know so I remember not to shop there and can tell all my friends to not shop their either.
Before I even pulled up the pictures, he knew that there would only be the 4 colors, and also knew they would be RS models or have sunroofs. All I know, is his version of why these cars are there was pretty convincing. Could these be for a completely different reason and just a coincidence they are set-up exactly like the dealer-unveiling cars? of course....but I don't think so.
Your boss is full of it. First of all there are not only 4 colors. As confirmed by Scott, there are actually 6 colors represented: red, yellow, black, silver, imperial blue, and inferno orange.
While I don't know it to be fact, I highly doubt that these cars are destined for the scrapyard. Even the pace-cars will eventually be sold, so it stands to reason these will too.
If they are in fact captive fleet vehicles as Scott said, most in fact will be scrapped when the GM employees are done with them.
And I also questioned the vehichles that have hoodscoops, and was told that the scoop is part of the RS package...however, if you look at the pics again, there's a red one that clearly has an "SS" badge on the back....something I will have to bring up with the boss later.
Actually that red one, is inferno orange. As others have pointed out, only the SS Camaros have the fake hood scoop. RS means something else.
I'm not trying to be mean or anything, however most Chevy salesmen know less about GM products than the majority of enthusiasts on this website. Stick around a little while and you might learn something. In fact, perhaps your boss should visit this website as well. Maybe if he understood what most of us enthusiasts/consumers did, he'd have a better idea on what he needs to do to sell more cars. :p
HuJass 03-10-2009, 11:55 AM There could be some truth in what Solo II is saying.
These cars COULD be going to dealers, but just not for sale.
Kind of like demo cars, so people can crawl around them, test drive them, and whatever.
After the unveiling/demo process, the cars would go back to GM and eventually be sold off as program cars.
It could happen.
Fbodfather 03-10-2009, 12:02 PM I'll repeat myself once again:
>They are Captive Test Fleet Cars
>Most will be retrofitted back in Michigan -- then sent to GM auction as 'used Divisional Company cars" -- some will be shipped to MPG or DPG for further testing and future component testing.......
>None of the cars you see are dealer cars -- WE START REGULAR PRODUCTION on MARCH 16th -- -THAT is when customer orders and dealership cars will start production.
Solo II 03-10-2009, 12:31 PM I apologize if I came off wrong, I only intended to present the information as I was made to understand it. As I said, it may just be a coicidence that the vehicles pictured appeared to be what we were told would be made for the nationwide unveiling, and sounds like it is.
I'm on the site to begin with because I'm trying to get a leg up on my information. So thanks for educating me :)
Capn Pete 03-10-2009, 02:40 PM Don't worry ... as I mentioned in another thread about the production capability of the plant, they can build another "fleet" of cars like that in just a couple days, so once (official) "production" starts, those ~couple hundred cars will be long forgotten ;).
I actually JUST drove by that lot about ~20 minutes ago ..... holy CRAP are there a lot of Camaros in there!!?!?!! :eek: :shock: :bow: I felt like a kid in a candy store (and I wasn't technically "in" the "candy store" ... just driving by! :lol: ). Even better, as I was driving down Stevenson Rd. (one of 2 main roads alongside the plant) a trio of cars pulled out onto the road in front of me to make their way down to join the rest of the fleet!! :D It was awesome!! :bow: :D
Oshawa may not be the greatest place on earth, but if you're a Camaro fan ;) ..........
:cz28:
JasonD 03-10-2009, 08:08 PM You guys driving by the plant...where's the pics?? :cool:
95birdible 03-10-2009, 11:25 PM I think it is time for Scott to update his pic since he got his Camaro to test.
Anyone with me on this?
Capn Pete 03-11-2009, 08:52 AM You guys driving by the plant...where's the pics?? :cool:
At the top of this thread!!! :p What more would you like to see?!?! :D
JasonD 03-11-2009, 09:42 AM At the top of this thread!!! :p What more would you like to see?!?! :D
As if we cannot get enough! More is the word! Strap on your camera, jump in your car, head back over there and start snappin'!! MOVE IT!!
SSPORT10 03-11-2009, 09:52 AM As if we cannot get enough! More is the word! Strap on your camera, jump in your car, head back over there and start snappin'!! MOVE IT!!
I am with Jason on this one. I can not get enough pics of this car, even if they are basically the same pics that we saw a few days ago!
Capn Pete 03-11-2009, 12:23 PM I got a fuzzy camera phone pic of the cars that pulled out in front of me. I'll post them later on as "proof" ;). I was afraid of getting hunted down and shot for it, but the big lot where the fleet of cars are parked was WIDE OPEN!!! :eek: I was so tempted to pull in, but I value my life too!!! :D
ChrisL 03-11-2009, 01:16 PM dont be tresspassing.... we wont cover your bail money.
anything you take from public property that is in plain sight is fair game. click away. bring a tripod. lol
2010_5thgen 03-11-2009, 01:21 PM I'll repeat myself once again:
>They are Captive Test Fleet Cars
>Most will be retrofitted back in Michigan -- then sent to GM auction as 'used Divisional Company cars" -- some will be shipped to MPG or DPG for further testing and future component testing.......
>None of the cars you see are dealer cars -- WE START REGULAR PRODUCTION on MARCH 16th -- -THAT is when customer orders and dealership cars will start production.
those used company cars are some of the best cars to get. very well maintained and when they sell them you can normally get alot off from the normal sticker price.
christianjax 03-11-2009, 03:49 PM While I don't know it to be fact, I highly doubt that these cars are destined for the scrapyard. Even the pace-cars will eventually be sold, so it stands to reason these will too.
And I also questioned the vehichles that have hoodscoops, and was told that the scoop is part of the RS package...however, if you look at the pics again, there's a red one that clearly has an "SS" badge on the back....something I will have to bring up with the boss later.
first of all, you work for a stealership. So you should know that mis-information is 50% of what is laid out to the public, and outright lies is the other 50%. If I had a dollar for every false truth ever told to me by a salesman I'd pay cash for my Camaro.
JasonD 03-11-2009, 04:04 PM Heh...okay, guys. Let's not take this thread into a direction it shouldn't go. :)
Wingboy_97 03-11-2009, 09:51 PM If any of this cars are going for testing, then it would be a safe bet to say that several will be used for crash cars. Also, if some are going to be used as fleet cars, do this guys get to pick the options on the cars when they built them?
I WILL TAKE A FULLY LOADED SS, PLEASE........
diggincamaro 03-16-2009, 02:36 AM Greetings all my fellow Camaro People! Such an exciting time. My emotions/feelings are all stirred up in anticipation of the arrival of my NEW CAMARO (pre-ordered last Fall)!
I can wait...But then again...I want it NOW!
Anyone out there in cyber-space experiencing these kind of feelings?
Well at any rate, it was.... just too cool seeing all those pics of finished Camaros,all lined up and ready for consumption! Yummy...yummy. "Patience is a virtue"...So they say! Waiting for pure SEX on wheels, DigginCamaro
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