marvb549 03-05-2009, 07:28 AM Not sure if anyone has comparable news or information, but I just received an e-mail from my dealer stating catback exhaust is $1010 installed and the engine cover is $305. Anyone have anything similar or remarkably different. It would be interesting to compare the cost of these options installed from dealer to dealer to form a baseline for future negotiation with dealers to get the best dollar value for the additions.
No word on the shorty headers. They have a GMPP part number but no pricing info that he can find.
Anyone have additional GMPP pricing info?
2010_5thgen 03-05-2009, 08:01 AM gmperformanceparts.com has the catalog you can download and it has pricing on most of the stuff in there. as far as the dealer priced parts, my dealer wont have anything on it. seems like their the last ones to hear anything.......i think they just found out last week that the concept camaro had come out at the 2006 NAIAS !!:)
SSPORT10 03-05-2009, 11:15 AM Not sure if anyone has comparable news or information, but I just received an e-mail from my dealer stating catback exhaust is $1010 installed and the engine cover is $305. Anyone have anything similar or remarkably different. It would be interesting to compare the cost of these options installed from dealer to dealer to form a baseline for future negotiation with dealers to get the best dollar value for the additions.
No word on the shorty headers. They have a GMPP part number but no pricing info that he can find.
Anyone have additional GMPP pricing info?
$305 for the engine cover is crazy! It is worth about $50, just a heavy piece of molded plastic with a little bit of insulation on it.
jg95z28 03-05-2009, 11:56 AM $1010 for cat-backs? Are they at least stainless?
2010_5thgen 03-05-2009, 03:01 PM $305 for the engine cover is crazy! It is worth about $50, just a heavy piece of molded plastic with a little bit of insulation on it.
welcome to the world of RETAIL. people never understand the business of retail and wholesale. you have to pay money to make things and you have to pay money to sell things. there is about 3 people making money off of that engine cover, and every other part you put on it. 1. the manufacturer. 2. the wholesaler and 3 the retailer or dealer. its called mark up. dealers may be getting it from the manufacturer for 200.00. they gotta make some money.
2010_5thgen 03-05-2009, 03:02 PM $1010 for cat-backs? Are they at least stainless?
from the pics i have seen of it, its not even a catback system. all i see is 2 pieces. one for each side with a tip and a muffler. so basically its just a muffler/tip swap out.
SSPORT10 03-05-2009, 04:56 PM welcome to the world of RETAIL. people never understand the business of retail and wholesale. you have to pay money to make things and you have to pay money to sell things. there is about 3 people making money off of that engine cover, and every other part you put on it. 1. the manufacturer. 2. the wholesaler and 3 the retailer or dealer. its called mark up. dealers may be getting it from the manufacturer for 200.00. they gotta make some money.
I get how it works and how businesses in this country work, just think that it is crazy, especially when you can purchase one for a lot less from someone other than a dealer. It is like when I needed a new battery for my '06 CTS. GM dealer wanted $189 for a Delco battery, was able to get the same battery for $60! GMPP was bascially created for GM and dealers to make money and take some business away from the aftermarket companies.
MetalDragon 03-05-2009, 06:23 PM That's funny....I had the exact same conversation with a coworker over that AC Delco battery he was about to go to the dealer to buy yesterday.
Unless is voids a warranty or I can't get it anywhere else..it's not coming from the dealer.
JasonD 03-05-2009, 10:15 PM Not to mention, that might be MSRP, and we all know what the S stands for. :)
97z28/m6 03-06-2009, 09:02 AM Not to mention, that might be MSRP, and we all know what the S stands for. :)
most dealers stick by MSRP on over the counter parts.
JasonD 03-06-2009, 09:05 AM Was I mistaken in thinking that you can get GMPP items from places other than a GM dealership?
CLEAN 03-06-2009, 09:23 AM from the pics i have seen of it, its not even a catback system. all i see is 2 pieces. one for each side with a tip and a muffler. so basically its just a muffler/tip swap out.
That's my understanding too. $1000 bucks for it seems high.
1fastdog 03-06-2009, 11:19 AM Was I mistaken in thinking that you can get GMPP items from places other than a GM dealership?
There are dealer outlets advertised online that discount GM Performance Parts. One of the largest is in Texas, but they are not the only ones...;)
Parts that are validted and don't require massaging to fit are usually higher in price.
jg95z28 03-06-2009, 12:52 PM from the pics i have seen of it, its not even a catback system. all i see is 2 pieces. one for each side with a tip and a muffler. so basically its just a muffler/tip swap out.If that's the case, I'm going to wait for the aftermarket. Someone is going to come out with something a lot better for a lot less. :p
2010_5thgen 03-06-2009, 01:06 PM Was I mistaken in thinking that you can get GMPP items from places other than a GM dealership?
i do alot of my aftermarket shopping on ebay. they have alot of dealers on there who sell the parts at very little over the invoice. its basically like buying at cost at the dealership. i used to have a really good hook up at a chevy dealer. i got all my parts for my trans am at cost. unfortunately the dealer went under and now i have no hook ups.
2010_5thgen 03-06-2009, 01:07 PM That's my understanding too. $1000 bucks for it seems high.
it is too high. i talked to borla and they gave me thier prices on the catback they are selling and i think it was 1300-1500MSRP. but if you go through a vendor, normally you get a little bit of a break. im going with borla as soon as they get the kits made and on the web page. im going with their long tube headers too.
CamaroScotty 03-06-2009, 10:22 PM Take those part numbers and go to www.gmpartsdirect.com
or here to go directly to the CAMARO section http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm?specials=1
WAY less than even my dealership employee pricing, and sometimes our COST!
rlchv70 03-07-2009, 08:32 AM Be careful, they charge high shipping/handling fees. Other sources are:
gmpartshouse.com
fredbeansparts.com
MetalDragon 03-07-2009, 08:10 PM Yeah...but at less than $600 to the door for the exhaust system compared to over a thousand at the dealer....
2010_5thgen 03-07-2009, 11:00 PM Take those part numbers and go to www.gmpartsdirect.com
or here to go directly to the CAMARO section http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm?specials=1
WAY less than even my dealership employee pricing, and sometimes our COST!
ill stick with this web sight for my performance parts: www.ebay.com
kmdracer 03-10-2009, 10:30 AM Not sure if anyone has comparable news or information, but I just received an e-mail from my dealer stating catback exhaust is $1010 installed and the engine cover is $305. Anyone have anything similar or remarkably different. It would be interesting to compare the cost of these options installed from dealer to dealer to form a baseline for future negotiation with dealers to get the best dollar value for the additions.
No word on the shorty headers. They have a GMPP part number but no pricing info that he can find.
Anyone have additional GMPP pricing info?
The Op stated that his dealer quoted him on an INSTALLED cat back. Quick searching from me shows the catback to msrp at $778.60, so that's 231.4 for taxes and dealer labor costs. Not too bad to me.
MetalDragon 03-10-2009, 11:47 AM Considering that all you have to do is unbolt a few brand new bolts, slip the old stuff off and slip the new ones on and retighten....I think I'd have to save my $400. Even if they didn't design it as a bolt on replacement, a local muffler shop could swap them for a LOT less than that.
delta_chi_03 03-13-2009, 08:21 PM I was just about to mention borla as an option. I have borla cat back on my GM truck, and it sounds great and they hold up through time and punishment. My friend had bassani on his ford lightning, also impressive. I know those two brands are quality. But what about flowmaster, dyno-max, and names in a lower $ category for quality sound?
I checked the camaro builder and liked the performace options, but is it equal to having a gen.II K&N intake, borla headers and exhaust?
2010_5thgen 03-13-2009, 09:16 PM corsa is a good sounding kit too.
SSPORT10 03-13-2009, 11:10 PM corsa is a good sounding kit too.
B&B also....they make some nice "throaty" sounding exhausts for the Vette!
8Banger 03-14-2009, 09:25 AM Flowmaster Super 40 for me please!!!:)
JakeRobb 03-14-2009, 09:34 AM Flowmaster Super 40 for me please!!!:)
That's just a muffler. Most of the kits being discussed are a full cat-back system with larger-diameter pipes for better flow. :)
Xilant 03-14-2009, 10:05 AM I was actually thinking of getting the GMPP shorty headers and catback exhaust... In the sema section of the gmperformanceparts.com show the shorty at 1000$ and the catback at 850$. I really thought this was expensive for a gm part...
However, considering that the price of the catback has an MSRP of 1000$, I don't even want to know what the headers are going to cost.
I might as well wait and get an aftermarket Hooker long headers and 3" catback exhaust, get even more horsepower and torque than the GMPP and actually pay less...
You know... I sometimes think "how can a company such as GM almost go chapter 11?" But then I look at the type of crap they pull out of their butt and it's all clear.
Just like I want to buy a new SUV soon and was considering the Equinox because the 2010 is gen 2 and I thought they would put the LLT in it. But NOOO, of course not. That would actually make sense. What do they do? Put the LF1 which has less power and is actually less efficient. And I don't care about the horsepower, it's all about the torque and the LF1 only has 214 lb.ft.
MetalDragon 03-14-2009, 07:11 PM That's just a muffler. Most of the kits being discussed are a full cat-back system with larger-diameter pipes for better flow. :)
And keep in mind that most aftermarket kits like Corsa / Borla design and dyno test on that particular vehicle. Yes, you can go to the local muffler shop and have them bend you some ninety inch diameter pipes (slight exaggeration there) and slap some flowmasters on it, but you generally won't get the performance gains that you would from a kit designed specifically for your vehicle.
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