Production amount

Does anyone out there know about how many new camaros will be built per day at the assembly plant.i thought if anyone knows it will kinda let us know when we might get ours?

Thanks

ron{2010camaro}

Right now they're probably only building a few a day :shrug:.

However, typically the line in Oshawa has been good for pumping out a new car every 60 seconds or less ... basically, anywhere from ~60 cars/hour, upwards of ~75 - 77 cars/hour, I've heard :).

At 60/hr, that's 480/day, 2400/week, 9600/mth (4 weeks).

At 75/hr, that's 600/day, 3000/week, 12000/mth (4 weeks).

I don't believe there is more than just an 8-hour day shift working at this point, but perhaps they'll add a second shift (or weekends, or over-time) to get production going quicker? :shrug: But who knows.

With 16000+ orders in so far, that's really just a couple months' light work ;).

Right now they're probably only building a few a day :shrug:.

However, typically the line in Oshawa has been good for pumping out a new car every 60 seconds or less ... basically, anywhere from ~60 cars/hour, upwards of ~75 - 77 cars/hour, I've heard :).

At 60/hr, that's 480/day, 2400/week, 9600/mth (4 weeks).

At 75/hr, that's 600/day, 3000/week, 12000/mth (4 weeks).

I don't believe there is more than just an 8-hour day shift working at this point, but perhaps they'll add a second shift (or weekends, or over-time) to get production going quicker? :shrug: But who knows.

With 16000+ orders in so far, that's really just a couple months' light work ;).did you hear about us canuks being SOL as its sold out?

did you hear about us canuks being SOL as its sold out?
:confused:

They're not going to sell any in Canada now????? :think: I don't see that happening.

I'm sure it'll be no different than with all the other cars that come out of Oshawa. Probably ~90%+ go south of the border, and only a small percentage are kept/sold here. It's the population and demographics difference between us and the States :cool:.

Where did you hear we're s.o.l.? :shrug:

:confused:

They're not going to sell any in Canada now????? :think: I don't see that happening.

I'm sure it'll be no different than with all the other cars that come out of Oshawa. Probably ~90%+ go south of the border, and only a small percentage are kept/sold here. It's the population and demographics difference between us and the States :cool:.

Where did you hear we're s.o.l.? :shrug:
there was a thread in the lounge and the guy was told by 4 dealers the car is sold out.

Gotcha ;). Because dealerships are always where I go if I want accurate information on a particular vehicle :rolleyes:. Man, those 4 dealerships must be GOOD if they can sell-out a car that isn't even for sale yet?! :eek: :lol:

Gotcha ;). Because dealerships are always where I go if I want accurate information on a particular vehicle :rolleyes:. Man, those 4 dealerships must be GOOD if they can sell-out a car that isn't even for sale yet?! :eek: :lol:
hey i called BS on it but i just wanted to hear if you knew anything.

i bet they're sold out of their "allocation" :rolleyes:

You Canuks are funny. Can't you guys come down here pick up a camaro, and drive it up?

Right now they're probably only building a few a day :shrug:.

However, typically the line in Oshawa has been good for pumping out a new car every 60 seconds or less ... basically, anywhere from ~60 cars/hour, upwards of ~75 - 77 cars/hour, I've heard :).

At 60/hr, that's 480/day, 2400/week, 9600/mth (4 weeks).

At 75/hr, that's 600/day, 3000/week, 12000/mth (4 weeks).

I don't believe there is more than just an 8-hour day shift working at this point, but perhaps they'll add a second shift (or weekends, or over-time) to get production going quicker? :shrug: But who knows.

With 16000+ orders in so far, that's really just a couple months' light work ;).they make a car a second?!?!?!?! how the hell is this possible?

he was saying one every 60 seconds, but I believe that's a bit optimistic.

GM hasn't said what capacity is yet. We do know they wont commence production at full capacity. They'll ramp it up to ensure the first 10 cars are assembled as well as cars 10001-10010 and cars 60001-60010.

It doesn't take 60 seconds to build a car. When the line is running and all stations are filled with cars at different stages, a car will come off every 60 seconds.

How many pre-orders are there?

It doesn't take 60 seconds to build a car. When the line is running and all stations are filled with cars at different stages, a car will come off every 60 seconds.

obviously. but what im wondering is how long does it actually take to build 1 car? and dont say 60 seconds.

obviously. but what im wondering is how long does it actually take to build 1 car? and dont say 60 seconds.

I think it is around 1 day or so.

he was saying one every 60 seconds, but I believe that's a bit optimistic.

It's not far off.

My dealer of choice had allocation for 6 left last time I talked to him, and that's only 1 out 4 major local dealers.

You Canuks are funny. Can't you guys come down here pick up a camaro, and drive it up?

Yes & no.

Franchise rules say a U.S. dealer cannot sell a new car to a Canadian to be taken back to Canada. They "could" have their franchise pulled over it. There's also a 6 month, 6,000 mile delay before the warranty gets honored in Canada.

Add the import costs, fees, aggravation and limited financing options and it becomes a process that relatively few undertake. With the way our dollars is tanking, it may not be cost effective either. :(

I've done it, but only because for one, the price difference was just too big to ignore, and for the other, after having an order in the system for 7 months and no TPW in sight, I sourced what I wanted out of U.S. dealer inventory.

obviously. but what im wondering is how long does it actually take to build 1 car? and dont say 60 seconds.

From absolute raw materials I'd say a long time. But once on the assmbley line pretty quick. When I toured the Corvette plant, that assmbley line crawled at a snails pace. At the end though, in a short amount of time I still saw serveral cars come off of the line.

From absolute raw materials I'd say a long time. But once on the assmbley line pretty quick. When I toured the Corvette plant, that assmbley line crawled at a snails pace. At the end though, in a short amount of time I still saw serveral cars come off of the line.
obviously from raw materials it takes a long time. this car has been three years in the making. i was meaaning the assembly line time. how long on the assembly line does it take to complete 1 car? and it soundsl ike right now 1 day is about the right time.

Franchise rules say a U.S. dealer cannot sell a new car to a Canadian to be taken back to Canada. They "could" have their franchise pulled over it. There's also a 6 month, 6,000 mile delay before the warranty gets honored in Canada.

That's stupied... These regulations are soo annoying. You should of seen what I had to do to get the skyline in the U.S.

they make a car a second?!?!?!?! how the hell is this possible?
1 car every 60 seconds (1 car/minute) ... not 1 every second!!! :p
he was saying one every 60 seconds, but I believe that's a bit optimistic.
Not really ;). Have you ever seen a production line in action? I obviously haven't seen the Camaro line going, but I took a tour of the truck plant a few years ago ... there was a clock ticking at the end of the line ... a full size, extended-cab Silverado or Sierra would roll off the line every ~57 - 63 seconds from what I counted :thumb: (yes, we stood and watched for a few minutes!! :lol: ). It's actually mind boggling when you think about it.

It doesn't take 60 seconds to build a car. When the line is running and all stations are filled with cars at different stages, a car will come off every 60 seconds.
You got it :cool:.

obviously. but what im wondering is how long does it actually take to build 1 car? and dont say 60 seconds.
I think it is around 1 day or so.
That sounds about right. Again, we won't know the full capacity time of the Camaro for awhile until they ramp up production, but typically, I think the build time for cars in Oshawa has been around a ~day or so. May be ~16 hours or something? :shrug: (ie: 2 full shifts from start to finish). If they are only going to work an 8-hour day shift, I doubt that any cars will finish within 1 shift ... they probably stop the line at the end of the day, and wherever they leave off, they pick up and start from the next day. Still, while running at normal capacity, the line should produce a new Camaro every ~60 seconds :yes: :). Man, what a beautiful picture that will be!!! :cz28:

What happened to "free trade"?

What happened to "free trade"?

I don't know if it's an international trade issue as much as it's a franchise issue at the dealer level.

I don't know if it's an international trade issue as much as it's a franchise issue at the dealer level.

Shouldn't it be the buyers responsibility, not the sellers?

What happened to "free trade"?

Its allowing American dealers to import Camaros.

Sorry to hear anyone has to deal with those issues. I guess doing anything internationally as an individual is full of such complications. It must be difficult to be a smaller business and deal with such issues.

Things are really screwy sometimes. I was talking to a ship captain from Croatia a few months ago. He was looking at buying a Corvette here locally and having it shipped. He said it was MUCH cheaper than buying in Europe.

Shouldn't it be the buyers responsibility, not the sellers?

I believe it's set up that way to protect the dealers. How happy would a Canadian dealer be if his customer could simply drive a few miles South and pick up the same car for a few thousand bucks cheaper and then drive it back to Canada? I guess it could be set up so that the purchaser had to pay the difference (for example, I live in Missouri, but if I go buy a car in Kansas I still have to pay Missouri sales tax for the car) but that's not the way the laws are currently configured.

I will make a some guesses on time. 4 hours in body, 4 in paint, and 6 to get through General Assembly. Plus there is usually a bank between each one of those that can eat up an hour or two. There is a lot of parallel path stuff too: The engines are getting assembled before the car drops into GA, the body subassemblies are built up before getting welded onto the BIW, the chassis is built up seperately before being married to the body.

-Geoff

If it took a whole day to build one car then with there being 10,000+ preorders then we would be waiting a while don't you think.

If it took a whole day to build one car then with there being 10,000+ preorders then we would be waiting a while don't you think.

no, because you would have an assembly line going. one starts and then theres another one after it. its not, you do one and then the next day you start another. you start one and then right after that you start another one. the first car wont be done for a day or maybe less but then there will be another camaro 1 minute right after it.

My dealer of choice had allocation for 6 left last time I talked to him, and that's only 1 out 4 major local dealers.



Yes & no.

Franchise rules say a U.S. dealer cannot sell a new car to a Canadian to be taken back to Canada. They "could" have their franchise pulled over it. There's also a 6 month, 6,000 mile delay before the warranty gets honored in Canada.

Add the import costs, fees, aggravation and limited financing options and it becomes a process that relatively few undertake. With the way our dollars is tanking, it may not be cost effective either. :(

I've done it, but only because for one, the price difference was just too big to ignore, and for the other, after having an order in the system for 7 months and no TPW in sight, I sourced what I wanted out of U.S. dealer inventory.Again this is to protect CDN.dealers.I tried this on 09 R/T Challenger,basically a real good friend would have to buy the car then sell it as used to me(there$5,000 less in U.S) but again w/all the regs/and our $ going to sh** buying one used in CDN after all the hoopla dies down is a much better option:lol:

Here's what I know (heard) from Oshawa workers here and on the other boards. The flex line only runs ONE SHIFT. They are capable of over 400 cars in that time. Now go multiply the numbers out keeping in mind they will not be at full production levels for at least a month from SORP.

If it took a whole day to build one car then with there being 10,000+ preorders then we would be waiting a while don't you think.

They don't build them one at a time!

Here's what I know (heard) from Oshawa workers here and on the other boards. The flex line only runs ONE SHIFT. They are capable of over 400 cars in that time. Now go multiply the numbers out keeping in mind they will not be at full production levels for at least a month from SORP.
That's right ;). They used to go 3 full shifts around the clock, but not these days :rolleyes:. Although I'm not 100% sure where the Impala line is at, if they're cut to 1 shift, or if they're still doing more? :think: They pump A LOT of freakin' Impalas out of that place!! :eek:

(... and soon, A LOT of Camaros!! :bow: )

hey,CapnPete or anyone else that lives in Oshawa.can the cars be seen parked somewhere after they're made ,to maybe get a daily production number thanks for any info.the wait is killing me,ours has to make it all the way to south louisiana,so i hope we aren't last

hey,CapnPete or anyone else that lives in Oshawa.can the cars be seen parked somewhere after they're made ,to maybe get a daily production number thanks for any info.the wait is killing me,ours has to make it all the way to south louisiana,so i hope we aren't last

It only takes a couple days, maybe a week, to ship a car across the country. The majority of your wait is in waiting for the car to get built.

Since tomorrow is the first day of production (!!! :D), the current build rate isn't very informative. Plants don't start up at full speed -- they take a couple months (sometimes six or more) to ramp it up.

I'm guessing that since they've been spending the past couple months practicing, ramp-up will be relatively quick, but I'm guessing no more than 100 cars per day at first. A typical plant can put out 500-1000 cars per day, but keep in mind that the Oshawa plant also builds Impalas.

keep in mind that the Oshawa plant also builds Impalas.

Yeah, but probably not at full capacity with car sales so slow. GM has a lot of pre orders to fill on the Camaro. I would think these are priority. I
hope anyway. :)

they make a car a second?!?!?!?! how the hell is this possible?

google henry ford, my friend. /sarcastic

hey,CapnPete or anyone else that lives in Oshawa.can the cars be seen parked somewhere after they're made ,to maybe get a daily production number thanks for any info.the wait is killing me,ours has to make it all the way to south louisiana,so i hope we aren't last
Unfortunately, there is no way, aside from trespassing, to get an accurate "head-count" of how many cars are parked in their big lot ;). I drove by and saw those ~couple hundred cars parked there (the ones in the pictures) and from the road there's no way to see the front of the line. Now keep this in mind, those couple hundred cars take up only a FRACTION of the available parking space down by the plant!!! :eek: It would take QUITE awhile to get an accurate count on how many cars are in there! (at the moment, it's a sea of Impalas). There's also an equally large lot for all the Silverados.

Unfortunately, there is no way, aside from trespassing, to get an accurate "head-count" of how many cars are parked in their big lot ;). I drove by and saw those ~couple hundred cars parked there (the ones in the pictures) and from the road there's no way to see the front of the line. Now keep this in mind, those couple hundred cars take up only a FRACTION of the available parking space down by the plant!!! :eek: It would take QUITE awhile to get an accurate count on how many cars are in there! (at the moment, it's a sea of Impalas). There's also an equally large lot for all the Silverados.

You could fly over. :)