spotted!

a buddy of mine took these!
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http://baycityrides.org/files/img_0465_553.jpg

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Cool.

I saw a yellow one the other day on a local Detroit freeway... maybe it was our own FbodFather :cool:

( http://camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669706 )

Wow, it looks like the truck is doing over 80! They were rolling.

Yeah...it's confirmed. It WILL at least do 0 - 60. :D

Sorry..flashback from the Wheels vs. Rims thread.

its looks like a 1LT looks real nice.

Scott's not the only one who got his car the other day. Get ready to see them more and more.

Wow, and the best part is, you can differentiate Inferno Orange from Victory Red. That was my biggest fear, that people would mix up the colours when seeing the two.

scott said hes driving his to cleveland for the auto show. i cant wait to see it. hopefully it will be parked somewhere where i can get a good look at it.

Cheryl's is orange...

Cool.

I saw a yellow one the other day on a local Detroit freeway... maybe it was our own FbodFather :cool:

( http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669706 )


where and what day?

Fbodfather 2.0 got his as well -- but his is a 2LT/RS --

Want to see more of these cars? :)

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=670246

where and what day?

Fbodfather 2.0 got his as well -- but his is a 2LT/RS --

Congrats on the car. It's a poontang magnet (as you know)!

I would also like to thank you if you had anything to do with the fact that we were able to sit in the Camaros at the Chicago Auto Show. That sealed the deal, and I sat in a LOT of the competition.

One gripe though... I would like an actual spare tire instead of that inflator kit. An option possibly?

Congrats on the car. It's a poontang magnet (as you know)!

I would also like to thank you if you had anything to do with the fact that we were able to sit in the Camaros at the Chicago Auto Show. That sealed the deal, and I sat in a LOT of the competition.

One gripe though... I would like an actual spare tire instead of that inflator kit. An option possibly?

Is there a spare tire well in the trunk?

Is there a spare tire well in the trunk?

Yes, there is. A donut spare is optional for the V6 cars, but not for the SS.

i wonder if that was Cheryl's car in the OP's post? hmmmm...

Yes, there is. A donut spare is optional for the V6 cars, but not for the SS.

right, no donut for the V8's. from what i remember it wouldn't clear those awesome-ass, big ol' brakes. u do get that emergency tire inflator kit when you don't get the spare. so you should be okay in an emergency. i'd rather have the killer brakes than the spare any day.

Is there a spare tire well in the trunk?

I took a couple pics of the spare tire well at the Chicago Auto Show. The first pic shows the inflator kit mounted in a black styrofoam holder. The second pic shows the the battery underneath when you lift up the inflator kit. Nice avatar by the way...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/natural_selection/CIMG0607.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/natural_selection/CIMG0626.jpg

I took a couple pics of the spare tire well at the Chicago Auto Show. The first pic shows the inflator kit mounted in a black styrofoam holder. The second pic shows the the battery underneath when you lift up the inflator kit. Nice avatar by the way...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/natural_selection/CIMG0626.jpg

Battery in the trunk huh? Totally missed that. G8's in the trunk also. Certainly not a deal breaker but IMO, inconvenient when some dumbass asks me for a jump after a football game (someone ALWAYS does). Of course I'll probably err on the side of caution and bring the 02 Impala to the games anyways...

I'm not sure on this car, but a guy at work has a Cobalt with the battery in the trunk. He said there were terminal posts under the hood as well.

I'm not sure on this car, but a guy at work has a Cobalt with the battery in the trunk. He said there were terminal posts under the hood as well.

There are most likely posts under the hood connected to the fuse block.

Scott's car and Fbodfather2.0's car are both yellow. Both were at the Cleveland show parked behind the building. When I download the pictures from my camera, I'll try to post the pictures I took of both of them parked next to each other. Like most northern states, its kind of odd to see camaro's on the road in the winter. And, to see two 2010's parked nexted to each other with snow on the ground, it was something that I was really happy to see as I pulled into the parking lot yesterday morning. :cool:

I spotted a yellow one yesterday and today, Yesterday was ont he highway today was on Orchard Lake Rd and 14 Mile Rd in Detroit, I couldnt get any pics of either as I was driving the opposite direction both times I spotted it

Fbodfather2.0

Is this John Fitzpatrick?

Battery in the trunk huh? Totally missed that. G8's in the trunk also. Certainly not a deal breaker but IMO, inconvenient when some dumbass asks me for a jump after a football game (someone ALWAYS does). Of course I'll probably err on the side of caution and bring the 02 Impala to the games anyways...

Battery in the trunk is a plus in my eyes....but to each their own, of course.

Is this John Fitzpatrick?
yes

Battery in the trunk huh? Totally missed that. G8's in the trunk also. Certainly not a deal breaker but IMO, inconvenient when some dumbass asks me for a jump after a football game (someone ALWAYS does). Of course I'll probably err on the side of caution and bring the 02 Impala to the games anyways...

In my experience, if the factory battery location is not under the hood, there will be redundant connection points for jumper cables under the hood anyway.

Having the battery in the trunk means that if you need a jump and you're pulled in front-first in a crowded lot, someone could still pull up behind and help you out without the need for 20-foot cables. :)

I like the battery weight low, centered and just behind the rear wheels as opposed to high and in the front corner of the engine compartment. Every little bit of weight transfer on this car will help.

In my experience, if the factory battery location is not under the hood, there will be redundant connection points for jumper cables under the hood anyway.

Having the battery in the trunk means that if you need a jump and you're pulled in front-first in a crowded lot, someone could still pull up behind and help you out without the need for 20-foot cables. :)

Very true - I've performed jumps with my Cobalt both from the underhood terminals and the actual battery.

In my experience, if the factory battery location is not under the hood, there will be redundant connection points for jumper cables under the hood anyway.

Having the battery in the trunk means that if you need a jump and you're pulled in front-first in a crowded lot, someone could still pull up behind and help you out without the need for 20-foot cables. :)

I'm generally not the guy/gal who needs the jump. It's always the "kids" at the game who have their stereos at full volume for 3 hours before they go in and then come out and do the same without ever starting their car. I'm just the nice guy who helps out. I stay and cook and have a few "pops" after every game anyways rather than sit in 2 mph traffic for a couple hours.

BTW, there are terminals under the hood...

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x124/trm0002/terminals.jpg

sorry to be off subject, but i like the idea of that inflator kit.

sorry to be off subject, but i like the idea of that inflator kit.

I am wondering if it is just a regular air pump that maybe plugs into the cigarette lighter, or is it something else? If it is just a regular air pump then if someone was to get a flat tire, not just a leak, then it looks like a flat bed would be needed. I kind of wish they just went with a run-flat tire, but then again you would add more weight and lose some performance.

I am wondering if it is just a regular air pump that maybe plugs into the cigarette lighter, or is it something else? If it is just a regular air pump then if someone was to get a flat tire, not just a leak, then it looks like a flat bed would be needed. I kind of wish they just went with a run-flat tire, but then again you would add more weight and lose some performance.

In the past, it has been a can of fix-a-flat, which sucks.

In the past, it has been a can of fix-a-flat, which sucks.

Yeah, those cans are really a big waste. They actually do more damage to the tire than good.

Fix-A-Flat renders a tire unrepairable.

Aztecs and Rendevous' had a small "built-in" compressor in the rear of the vehicle. Might be something like that.

Personally....and as much as I DON'T like them, I think I'd prefer a temporary spare. If the tire has more than just a very slow leak...not sure what good any kind of inflation device is going to do.

But I do like the battery in the back. :)

I am wondering if it is just a regular air pump that maybe plugs into the cigarette lighter, or is it something else? If it is just a regular air pump then if someone was to get a flat tire, not just a leak, then it looks like a flat bed would be needed. I kind of wish they just went with a run-flat tire, but then again you would add more weight and lose some performance.

when talking to mr. fitzpatrick, he said it had some type of Goo, in it that clogged the leak. and someone said what if you have a blow out? he replied" thats why you have road side service for free. i dont remember how long he said the road side service was for. but apparently if you get a nail in the tire or something small, the goo, inflator kit will fix the leak, temporarily.

Aztecs and Rendevous' had a small "built-in" compressor in the rear of the vehicle. Might be something like that.

Personally....and as much as I DON'T like them, I think I'd prefer a temporary spare. If the tire has more than just a very slow leak...not sure what good any kind of inflation device is going to do.
But I do like the battery in the back. :)cant fit a 15" spare over a baer brake kit. thats why there is nor spare on the rs and ss packages.

when talking to mr. fitzpatrick, he said it had some type of Goo
Yes, that's what we're calling Fix-A-Flat (it's available for sale at your local auto parts store under that name). It's a white adhesive goo, compressed in a can. You put it on the valve stem and the stuff goes into the tire and hopefully seals up the hole from the inside. It works reasonably well for small punctures.

As HuJass said, using it renders the tire unrepairable. So if it fails to seal, you'll have to buy a new tire, rather than paying a couple bucks to have it fixed at Discount Tire.

Finally, it's a one-use-and-done thing. You'll need to buy more once you've used it.

cant fit a 15" spare over a baer brake kit. thats why there is nor spare on the rs and ss packages.

Three nitpicks, just FYI:
If it comes from the factory, I wouldn't call it a kit.
It's Brembo, not Baer.
It doesn't matter what company made the brakes -- a 15" wheel won't fit over a 14.4" rotor (you have to leave room for the caliper)

when talking to mr. fitzpatrick, he said it had some type of Goo, in it that clogged the leak. and someone said what if you have a blow out? he replied" thats why you have road side service for free. i dont remember how long he said the road side service was for. but apparently if you get a nail in the tire or something small, the goo, inflator kit will fix the leak, temporarily.

Roadside service is good for the 5 years of warranty, I believe...I could be wrong though.

cant fit a 15" spare over a baer brake kit. thats why there is nor spare on the rs and ss packages.

Then get a bigger spare and figure out a way to fit it in the trunk.

Roadside assistance? Ok. I'd much prefer to put the tire on myself and get on down the road in a timely manner. You ever had to wait on "Roadside assistance"? And if you don't have a spare, you're headed somewhere IMMEDIATELY for a new tire. IE....wherever you're going (even if its just a few miles down the road) is going to have to wait.

No thanks. But to each their own.

Then get a bigger spare and figure out a way to fit it in the trunk.

Roadside assistance? Ok. I'd much prefer to put the tire on myself and get on down the road in a timely manner. You ever had to wait on "Roadside assistance"? And if you don't have a spare, you're headed somewhere IMMEDIATELY for a new tire. IE....wherever you're going (even if its just a few miles down the road) is going to have to wait.

No thanks. But to each their own.

I agree. I was actually thinking about swapping out the tires for run-flat tires right away, these are WAY more practical and better than a can of fix-a-flat and an air compressor!

Then get a bigger spare and figure out a way to fit it in the trunk.

Roadside assistance? Ok. I'd much prefer to put the tire on myself and get on down the road in a timely manner. You ever had to wait on "Roadside assistance"? And if you don't have a spare, you're headed somewhere IMMEDIATELY for a new tire. IE....wherever you're going (even if its just a few miles down the road) is going to have to wait.

No thanks. But to each their own.exactly!

I agree. I was actually thinking about swapping out the tires for run-flat tires right away, these are WAY more practical and better than a can of fix-a-flat and an air compressor!but a lot more $$$$

Yes, that's what we're calling Fix-A-Flat (it's available for sale at your local auto parts store under that name). It's a white adhesive goo, compressed in a can. You put it on the valve stem and the stuff goes into the tire and hopefully seals up the hole from the inside. It works reasonably well for small punctures.

As HuJass said, using it renders the tire unrepairable. So if it fails to seal, you'll have to buy a new tire, rather than paying a couple bucks to have it fixed at Discount Tire.

Finally, it's a one-use-and-done thing. You'll need to buy more once you've used it.



Three nitpicks, just FYI:
If it comes from the factory, I wouldn't call it a kit.
It's Brembo, not Baer.
It doesn't matter what company made the brakes -- a 15" wheel won't fit over a 14.4" rotor (you have to leave room for the caliper)
geees. sorry. i was just telling you what i was told. and the tire inflation kit isnt a bottle of fix a flat. its a compressor that fills the tire with air and fills it with that"goo"/ dont get mad at me im just telling you what i was told. and sorry i called it baer instead of brembos. my bad. and for calling it a kit, lets not get back into the descusion we did last week. call it what you want, you get the damn point.

Then get a bigger spare and figure out a way to fit it in the trunk.

Roadside assistance? Ok. I'd much prefer to put the tire on myself and get on down the road in a timely manner. You ever had to wait on "Roadside assistance"? And if you don't have a spare, you're headed somewhere IMMEDIATELY for a new tire. IE....wherever you're going (even if its just a few miles down the road) is going to have to wait.

No thanks. But to each their own.

hey liek i said, im just telling you the reason mr. fitzpatrick told me. i asked him about getting a flat and how to repair it, and thats what he told me.

i think putting a full size 20" spare would be a little much. it doesnt really bother me that there isnt a spare. if i were getting a vette, id be in the same boat. i have only had 1 flat in my entire driving career. im not concerned about it.

i think putting a full size 20" spare would be a little much. it doesnt really bother me that there isnt a spare. if i were getting a vette, id be in the same boat. i have only had 1 flat in my entire driving career. im not concerned about it.

You've certainly had better luck with tires than I have. I've had many flat tires in my time, and I've only been driving for six years. Some sticky goo, in my opinion, is no replacement for a real spare, even if it's a donut. With how expensive the tires are going to be on the 20 and 21 inch wheels, taking a shot in the dark at hoping that goo will seal the tire is a gamble I wouldn't want to take since if you use it and it doesn't seal, you can't get the tire patched by a shop.

The bad thing is, if the leak WAS repairable, it won't be after you put the fix-a-flat in it.
So yeah, it'll get ya rolling (hopefully), but at what cost?
I would never, ever, ever, ever use that stuff.

I'm sure someone will make a 17" donut rim & tire. That really is the best way to go.

You've certainly had better luck with tires than I have. I've had many flat tires in my time, and I've only been driving for six years. Some sticky goo, in my opinion, is no replacement for a real spare, even if it's a donut. With how expensive the tires are going to be on the 20 and 21 inch wheels, taking a shot in the dark at hoping that goo will seal the tire is a gamble I wouldn't want to take since if you use it and it doesn't seal, you can't get the tire patched by a shop.

im betting they didnt just throw it in and say" well lets hope this works" im sure they did some testing and its probably a pretty solid job. yeah it may be bad for the tire, it may not. i dont know. but its the price you have to pay to have the car. if you dont like it, you can buy a spare tire. but which one are you goign to need? the front or the rear? they are 2 sizes you know?

The bad thing is, if the leak WAS repairable, it won't be after you put the fix-a-flat in it.
So yeah, it'll get ya rolling (hopefully), but at what cost?
I would never, ever, ever, ever use that stuff.

I'm sure someone will make a 17" donut rim & tire. That really is the best way to go.

you want a 17" donut sitting in your trunk? not only is it heavy, but its not going to fit in the "donut well". i sure as hell dont want a 20+lbs extra tire in the back of my performance, and already over weight,car. maybe they can do like my hummer and throw a 5th wheel on the back:lol:

Does anyone besides me use those plugs? They've saved me a couple of times and don't require fix a flat. You could always pull them and have it patched later, but I've never had a problem with leaving them in.

but a lot more $$$$

Not that much more. When it comes to high performance Z rated tires, especially with a 20" wheel size, run-flat versus non-run flat are not that much different in price.

hey liek i said, im just telling you the reason mr. fitzpatrick told me. i asked him about getting a flat and how to repair it, and thats what he told me.

i think putting a full size 20" spare would be a little much. it doesnt really bother me that there isnt a spare. if i were getting a vette, id be in the same boat. i have only had 1 flat in my entire driving career. im not concerned about it.

If you were to buy a C6 they come with the Goodyear Eagle F1 EMT tires. They are actually a pretty good balance between performance and the extra security of not worrying about a spare, then being able to drive 50 or miles in order to get the tire fixed/replaced.

Does anyone besides me use those plugs? They've saved me a couple of times and don't require fix a flat. You could always pull them and have it patched later, but I've never had a problem with leaving them in.

I have used plugs a bunch of times before. I like patches better, but there are disadvantges with them as well. Patches are more expensive than plugs and they require having the tire pulled off the wheel of the car. When they pull the tire off the wheel, they almost always wind up scrapping the wheel, which just plain sucks!

Carrying a 20 inch wheel, with a tire measuring around 28 inches in diamter, thats a BIG wheel and tire package.
17's wont fit over the big brakes in the rear, it would have to be an 18 inch wheel with a small space saver type tire on it.

geees. sorry. i was just telling you what i was told.
I hope that some day you begin to understand that I'm not trying to attack you when I nitpick. :)

and the tire inflation kit isnt a bottle of fix a flat. its a compressor that fills the tire with air and fills it with that"goo"

You just described Fix-A-Flat. It's not necessarily made by the same company, but it's more or less the same thing.

Can some engineer come to NJ area?!?!? PLEASE?!?!!?


And I belive that I read a press release that the company Slime will be the offical tire repair kit for GM, and will debut in the Camaro. Slime is a green goo that can be found at most auto parts retailers.

yeah it may be bad for the tire, it may not. i dont know.

Not may be bad, it IS bad for the tire. I know for a fact it is.

And I bet I could find a donut rim and a donut tire combo to fit over the brakes, fit both front & rear, and fit in the spare tire well. And if I couldn't, I'm sure some company will come up with something.


And 20 lbs extra won't bother me. Peace of mind is worth a LOT more than saving 20 lbs of weight.

Honestly, in 28 years of driving, I've had just four times where I've needed to change a tire on the side of the road, and only on two of those occasions did I use the spare:

1) October of '87 in the deep of the Australian outback due to catostrophic descruction of the tire on my 4X4
2) April of 1991 on the Trans Am: Shoved a Champion spark plug through the tire, and drove it to the service station before going flat. The tire was double-plugged and it lasted as long as the other three.
3) July of 2000 on the Trans Am: Someone made this three-pointed star thing out of razor blades and put it on the road. It cut through the tire and destroyed it, but not until I made it into work. I got a ride home and picked up a spare race tire & installed it for the day.
4) December of 2006: Shoved a no-name 7/16 open-end wrench through the tread of the Pirelli on the Jeep. Too bad it wasn't a Craftsman. Tire was destroyed, and I had to use the spare.

So, in 28 years, I've only had two occasions to ever use a spare, and don't even carry one in the Trans Am anymore. I think a spare tire is less useful than they once were, since roads are more developed than in the distant past. Of course, roads *are* getting worse, these days....

A new car without a spare tire probably doesnt bug me that much, though I'd rather see the Cigarette lighter and ashtray disappear first. People shouldn't smoke in their cars. That is just sinful, sick and wrong!!!

Anyway, the reason I joined this thread was to report this sexy black 2010 Camaro SS M6 that I saw in Haslett yesterday. The powertrain engineer who had it was assigned the car looked very happy, and he said that his job assignment was to just drive it! WOW, what a job! I first asked him, "Are you Cheryl, John, or Scott??" He said he didn't know those three people so I happily informed him who they are. We talked Camaros for a few minutes. He said "You'd look good in a car like this," and I said "Yes, I know!", but then I had to point out my new Avvie that was parked next to him.

If you were to buy a C6 they come with the Goodyear Eagle F1 EMT tires. They are actually a pretty good balance between performance and the extra security of not worrying about a spare, then being able to drive 50 or miles in order to get the tire fixed/replaced.yeah depending on the size and damage to the tire. its not guaranteed to work all the time. my dads vette got a bunjee cord in the tire and he barley got home 10 miles down the road before the tire was flat.

Not may be bad, it IS bad for the tire. I know for a fact it is.

And I bet I could find a donut rim and a donut tire combo to fit over the brakes, fit both front & rear, and fit in the spare tire well. And if I couldn't, I'm sure some company will come up with something.


And 20 lbs extra won't bother me. Peace of mind is worth a LOT more than saving 20 lbs of weight.

ill just use the road side service. and if im in a hurry ill use the goo. and if its really that bad for the tire, ill buy a new one. butthe odds are i wont be in a hurry and ill have the roadside serive come out and have them repair the tire for me. this isnt even worth having a discusion over. everyone has their different opinions and everyone is not going to agree or view things the same way. spare tires, to me are useless. i used mine once and that was because i didnt have my cell phone to call someone.