Modification to FLX 220 fans for fitment?

ak95ta
02-18-2009, 05:36 PM
I know a lot of the turbo guys are using the Flex a Lite 220 fans for their front mount for extra room. I also need this extra room for the YSi's cog drive setup. I am not going to do the vertical radiator mod. I got the fans, but they don't really fit worth a damn, as they don't sit flush against the radiator. Are you guys modifying them at all, and how are you mounting them? Are you centering them on the radiator, all the way up or down? I feel I need to take the cutoff wheel to this fan setup. Thanks.

ak95ta
02-19-2009, 09:46 PM
Anybody? You guys are happy with the way they fit???

94SLUG
02-20-2009, 04:28 PM
WILL NOT WORK!!! Only way these work on the Griffin Rad is to cut hole in the fan shroud at the top left, and also only to have only upper and lower hose for rad not oil cooler + Auto trans lines and steam line......I had posted about these problem not to long ago... I went with single syclone... Works great... If I had to do over I would have ordered wider than 27 inch rad to 29 then it would work with all stock lines and locations...



http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq262/94slug/finalfinished2.jpg

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq262/94slug/evap2.jpg

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq262/94slug/finL6.jpg

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He did it the other way..


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c382/BC56F100/DSC03344.jpg


EDIT I see your NOT going vertical.... They should work no problem...

mzgp5x
02-27-2009, 11:00 PM
I do not have a turbo, but, I did move my rad for a Procharger D1 mod, and, a vac pump option.
http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/mzgp5x/
I could do a turo, but, I am not in a cash positive positon. The car is very loose when my foot gets into the throttle. (97ss 383ci D1 - M6) B.

mkent
03-01-2009, 07:52 PM
WILL NOT WORK!!! Only way these work on the Griffin Rad is to cut hole in the fan shroud at the top left, and also only to have only upper and lower hose for rad not oil cooler + Auto trans lines and steam line......I had posted about these problem not to long ago... I went with single syclone... Works great... If I had to do over I would have ordered wider than 27 inch rad to 29 then it would work with all stock lines and locations...



http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq262/94slug/finalfinished2.jpg

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq262/94slug/evap2.jpg

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq262/94slug/finL6.jpg

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq262/94slug/finalfinished4.jpg











He did it the other way..


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c382/BC56F100/DSC03344.jpg


EDIT I see your NOT going vertical.... They should work no problem...

what radiator is this? I bought the OFI setup for a rediculous amount of $ and I don't think it's going to work with my automatic tranny setup since it has not provisions for transmission cooler lines.... :(

94SLUG
03-02-2009, 11:03 AM
what radiator is this? I bought the OFI setup for a rediculous amount of $ and I don't think it's going to work with my automatic tranny setup since it has not provisions for transmission cooler lines.... :(

You dont need to run you tranny line into the radiator, just buy a nice 10 or 12 pass tranny cooler for 50 bucks mount it to the front just as I did..... The radiator is griffin 252 series that everyone uses...

mkent
03-03-2009, 07:38 AM
You dont need to run you tranny line into the radiator, just buy a nice 10 or 12 pass tranny cooler for 50 bucks mount it to the front just as I did..... The radiator is griffin 252 series that everyone uses...

I don't know how many passes my tranny cooler makes, but i have a good sized one mounted up front. Frank from CPT says it won't be enough if I don't have the cooler in a radiator also. His logic makes some sense. How are you going to cool the fluid while you're driving stop light to stop light and there's no air moving through the air cooler? I'm curious of whether you have or if you no of anybody who has hooked up a tranny temp gauge while they have only the external trans cooler.

94SLUG
03-03-2009, 11:37 AM
I don't know how many passes my tranny cooler makes, but i have a good sized one mounted up front. Frank from CPT says it won't be enough if I don't have the cooler in a radiator also. His logic makes some sense. How are you going to cool the fluid while you're driving stop light to stop light and there's no air moving through the air cooler? I'm curious of whether you have or if you no of anybody who has hooked up a tranny temp gauge while they have only the external trans cooler.


Frank knows his stuff, if thats the case I would hook a small fan to the tranny cooler for in traffic driving...

camarobird92
03-03-2009, 11:56 AM
If you are in traffic, more than likely the radiator fan will be on. It will pull air through the tranny cooler too.

94SLUG
03-03-2009, 01:09 PM
If you are in traffic, more than likely the radiator fan will be on. It will pull air through the tranny cooler too.

That was my thought, but Frank knows these trans very well.. I will just add a small pusher fan call it good.

ak95ta
03-03-2009, 03:17 PM
Sorry to Hijack my thread back, but I thought I would give a lil step-by-step procedure for modifying the Flex a lite 220 fans for use with a stock radiator.

Here is the problem that I didnt like. Fits like sh1t.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/ak95ta/IMG_1534.jpg
Doesn't clear rad hose.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/ak95ta/IMG_1535.jpg
Step 1, remove weatherstripping.
Step 2, mark the plastic shroud where it touches the radiator.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/ak95ta/IMG_1536.jpg
Step 3, Remove fans, cut area from inside out from mark to mark.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/ak95ta/IMG_1537.jpg
Step 4, clean cut area up, reinstall fans.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/ak95ta/IMG_1538.jpg
Step 5, mark and cut area around rad hose.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/ak95ta/IMG_1540.jpg
Step 6, cut weatherstripping to length for top and bottom.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/ak95ta/IMG_1539.jpg

Fits like a champ
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/ak95ta/IMG_1541.jpg

This took me about an hour with my tool of choice and SAFETY GLASSES!!!!!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/ak95ta/IMG_1542.jpg

mkent
03-03-2009, 08:59 PM
That was my thought, but Frank knows these trans very well.. I will just add a small pusher fan call it good.
Frank stated that it MAY be okay if its mounted in front of the radiator, and probably by the reasoning that the fans would pull air through it. However, my OFI radiator setup uses dual pushers which do not allow mounting of the trans cooler in front of the radiator. Putting it behind the radiator wouldn't make sense since there would be heated air pushing through it.

The SRZ
03-05-2009, 01:33 PM
Sweet! Are those fans stronger/better than the stock fan units?

ak95ta
03-05-2009, 02:56 PM
Sweet! Are those fans stronger/better than the stock fan units?

Yea, and a bit quieter. They are also about 2-3 inches thinner.

The SRZ
06-20-2009, 03:30 PM
ak95ta, how exactly did you get it to mount to the radiator? Mine just came in yesterday and before I tear into it I noticed there isn't any mounting brackets for the fans except the 4 clunk plastic units that came w/ the fans. Those clearly don't seem like they'll work so I was just curious as to how you mounted yours. Did you position the fan so it sits on the lower radiator mount and how did you secure it if you went this route?

ak95ta
06-21-2009, 01:38 AM
ak95ta, how exactly did you get it to mount to the radiator? Mine just came in yesterday and before I tear into it I noticed there isn't any mounting brackets for the fans except the 4 clunk plastic units that came w/ the fans. Those clearly don't seem like they'll work so I was just curious as to how you mounted yours. Did you position the fan so it sits on the lower radiator mount and how did you secure it if you went this route?

I couldn't get those 4 palstic units to work either. I went down to Schucks and got those long plastic mounts for like a aftermarket tranny cooler. They just slide through the fins and use a snugging washer. I used 6 of them and working good so far, with about 2k miles on them. I mounted them as far up on the radiator as I could, so there is about 3 inches down low that are not covered. Hope this helps.

The SRZ
06-21-2009, 12:26 PM
Cool, I just thought it was me w/ those plastic mounts. :) I'll have to go to the local store and see what I can find. You wouldn't have any pics of yours by chance would you? I may go the route of metal zip ties if I can't find anything suitable. Thanks for the info!

ford
06-27-2009, 09:18 AM
I have the same griffin radiator but have yet to buy my fans for the setup. Sre there any other choices that fit better to the griffin? i would rather not hack at my new fans.

ak95ta
06-27-2009, 01:39 PM
I have the same griffin radiator but have yet to buy my fans for the setup. Sre there any other choices that fit better to the griffin? i would rather not hack at my new fans.

The fans may work for your griffin radiator. The modification I did was for fitment with the stock radiator.

94SLUG
06-27-2009, 02:38 PM
The fans may work for your griffin radiator. The modification I did was for fitment with the stock radiator.

They will not work on a Griffin radiator and auto trans! Summit dual 11inch pullers fit perfect...