Dallas Auto Show

I'm here in Dallas getting set to head down to the convention for the kickoff of the public portion of the Dallas Auto Show.

We have some nice 5th gens for folks to see and one to hop into.

If you are close, drop by and say hello!

I'm here in Dallas getting set to head down to the convention for the kickoff of the public portion of the Dallas Auto Show.

We have some nice 5th gens for folks to see and one to hop into.

If you are close, drop by and say hello!

Will the show be going on through the weekend? I will be heading up there this weekend.

Will the show be going on through the weekend? I will be heading up there this weekend.

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Paul, will you be around at the show today (Saturday)? I took a night off work and will be headed to the Dallas convention center in the next hour or so.

Paul, will you be around at the show today (Saturday)? I took a night off work and will be headed to the Dallas convention center in the next hour or so.

I will be at the show today from 2:00pm CST until closing at 10.

Hope to see you there!

I will be at the show today from 2:00pm CST until closing at 10.

Hope to see you there!

That will be cutting it a bit close (we've got to head back to Tulsa later in the day). I'll see about convincing my better half to stay around a bit past 2:00. If successful, you can spot us by the twinkie shirts (My wife and I will be wearing yellow Petit Le Mans shirts from 2004).

That will be cutting it a bit close (we've got to head back to Tulsa later in the day). I'll see about convincing my better half to stay around a bit past 2:00. If successful, you can spot us by the twinkie shirts (My wife and I will be wearing yellow Petit Le Mans shirts from 2004).


See what you can do. I'll arrive a bit earlier and check how the display is. I'll be in a Corvette Racing jacket, LeMans 2007on the right chect, with Pratt & Miller on the sleeve.

After 2:00 I'll be in a suit with my name tag.;)

1fastdog, I haven't been checking Cz28 lately, so I'm not familiar with you. Were you the man working the Camaro area who had the color paint chip guide in your suit pocket? If so, we met yesterday. You were pleasantly well informed about the Camaros, which was a nice surprise since I only expected booth babes.

I believe I saw you in there, you were talking to several people. I really wish they had the SS open. The silver SS with Inferno Orange looked great. The LS interior was ok, but really want to feel the SS interior. I came extremely impressed with another GM product in the show, the CTS-V, wow, what a car! I better start saving :)

1fastdog, I haven't been checking Cz28 lately, so I'm not familiar with you. Were you the man working the Camaro area who had the color paint chip guide in your suit pocket? If so, we met yesterday. You were pleasantly well informed about the Camaros, which was a nice surprise since I only expected booth babes.

That wasn't me, but I am very pleased you had a good experience in the Chevrolet display. That is certainly what we hope to provide to all of our visitors.

Thanks for attending. We appreciate it!

I believe I saw you in there, you were talking to several people. I really wish they had the SS open. The silver SS with Inferno Orange looked great. The LS interior was ok, but really want to feel the SS interior. I came extremely impressed with another GM product in the show, the CTS-V, wow, what a car! I better start saving :)


Thanks for coming to the show and sharing some of your time in the GM displays.

The CTS-V is really a knockout. I can undertand your liking it.

Thanks for coming to the show and sharing some of your time in the GM displays.

The CTS-V is really a knockout. I can undertand your liking it.

It was nice to meet you Saturday Paul. It's always nice to put a face and voice with someone you've communicated with. I was half expecting you to look and sound like Ron White.

Many thanks for taking the time to chat a bit. I know it's tough to get a free minute while answering questions from so many different directions. It was interesting to watch and listen to you work. I especially liked the, "you have that depressed Ford guys look," comment you made to that one small group that was so quiet.

It was great to see the Camaro again too. Sitting in it just makes me that much more resolved to do what ever it takes to own one.

I agree with the CTS-V comments. Unfortunately for me, my wife had the same look on her face when sitting in the CTS-V that I had when sitting in the Camaro. This could be a very expensive year or two...LOL

Thanks again for your time Paul. I'll get some pictures up in the next day or two and post a link here. I didn't shoot as many as I originally thought I would, but convention center lighting is never very good for taking pictures.

I have to share this one bit. Right after we left the show my wife made the comment that she, "... thought it was odd that we had to wait in a line to sit in the Camaro since none of the other cars at the show had a line." I just smiled and said, "Yep!" She than said something about needing to watch "Transformers" again sometime soon. :D

I'll be there tomorrow. Looking forward to it.

It was nice to meet you Saturday Paul. It's always nice to put a face and voice with someone you've communicated with. I was half expecting you to look and sound like Ron White.

Many thanks for taking the time to chat a bit. I know it's tough to get a free minute while answering questions from so many different directions. It was interesting to watch and listen to you work. I especially liked the, "you have that depressed Ford guys look," comment you made to that one small group that was so quiet.

It was great to see the Camaro again too. Sitting in it just makes me that much more resolved to do what ever it takes to own one.

I agree with the CTS-V comments. Unfortunately for me, my wife had the same look on her face when sitting in the CTS-V that I had when sitting in the Camaro. This could be a very expensive year or two...LOL

Thanks again for your time Paul. I'll get some pictures up in the next day or two and post a link here. I didn't shoot as many as I originally thought I would, but convention center lighting is never very good for taking pictures.

I have to share this one bit. Right after we left the show my wife made the comment that she, "... thought it was odd that we had to wait in a line to sit in the Camaro since none of the other cars at the show had a line." I just smiled and said, "Yep!" She than said something about needing to watch "Transformers" again sometime soon. :D

The pleasure was all mine!

You are so right. It is nice to put a face to a name and talk one on one with folks you know from the internet.

I'm really pleased you you and your wife saw cars you liked in GM's part of the show.

On the somber group on guys, I figured anyone that looks at the new Camaro and seems sad MUST be a Ford fan:lol: At least my comment got them to sparkle up a little bit.;)

Looking forward to seeing your pix. Thanks again for stopping bye to say hello and let your wife know that it was nice for me to meet her!

I'm also looking forward to seeing how your new sim mod works out!

I'll be there tomorrow. Looking forward to it.


Me too! Stop by and say hello.:cool:

Paul,
It was good to meet you and talk to you a few times on Saturday. I spent a lot of time around the Camaros listening to what people had to say about it. Most was positive. And of course some was negative. I also answered a bunch of questions that I overheard. Lots of people were comparing the Camaro to the new Mustang.

Several times on Saturday I walked by the Chevy exhibit, and every time there was a line to get into the base Camaro. Some times the line had more than a dozen people in it. Most were guys, but there were a few girls that got in. NO other cars had such a long line to get into the least expensive model of a car. :lol:

One of the other "Product Specialists" I spoke with seemed to be more of a salesman from one of the nearby dealerships. I heard him give some info that wasn't completely true. He didn't seem to know the difference in the LS2 and LS3. He kept quoting the price of the SS/RS at $35k, but never mentioned that the 1SS starts at $27k. He also kept telling people about how one of his customers had ordered a 2SS/RS and an LS7, and his dealership was going to do the swap and ship it and everything. The price would be about $65k for everything. He claimed that the LS9 or LSA won't fit because the cradle is wrong... It kind of got annoying listening to him, but he did take pictures of the inside of the SS/RS for me.

I'm a big guy, and I fit very comfortably into the Camaro's driver's seat. Because of the line, I didn't spend much time in it but I was able to get comfortable easily. There seems to be more room than in my wife's 04 Impala for sure. I had a smile on my face just looking at the cars.

Overall I am very impressed with the Camaro, and I think it is going to be a smash hit!

On the other hand, I left a bit sad because the RWD Impala that was supposed to be on this platform has been canceled :( It would have been the best Impala ever. :death: That Impala might have been a good enough to be the car that could help save GM...

but never mentioned that the 1SS starts at $27k.

$31k

Well, from looking at the Camaros at the show, I think the exteriors are very refined as the panel gaps are virtually nonexistant. The red used on the LS7 concept was a much better red than what was on the V6 Camaro we got to sit in. The LS7 looked like it was painted in Bright Rally Red or Torch Red, while the red on the concept looked, and photographed a little too salmon/creamy, similar to how the yellow on the Commemorative Trans Ams was too creamy. The silver isn't to my liking as we've been force-fed that color for years now, and it's always been too light of a silver. Sebring Silver is a wonderful color, but I'm not a fan of Silver Ice. The Red Tintcoat paint was... well... I'm not a fan of it. I was shown the paint chip folder the older, knowledgeable gentleman had in his suit jacket, and none of the blue colors were particularly to my liking--I'm only speaking about the blue, because that's what I wanted, a blue Camaro.

With regard to the interior... well... the ergonomics from the front seat were good, but the material was strangely sticky and looked like rhinoliner. I feel the rhinoliner was too heavily textured, and not quite as dark as it should have been to make the radio look like it belongs in the car. I tried out the backseat, and as you can read in another topic, I wasn't very satisfied with it.

I love my Grand Prix GXP as I don't have any compromises with it, the interior is nearly black, the materials are good, etc. so I think I'll be holding off on the Camaro until, perhaps, the end of it's product cycle and/or if they offer Jet Stream Blue. I know the Grand Prix is a different sort of car... Camaros are in my blood, but I feel from a sitting still perspective, that the 4th gens are the better cars. Just my opinion.

I've suggested the Camaro to my sister, who is the one with the '95 Z28 as her daily driver (meaning, she could use a newer car), and when she visited the autoshow with her friend, she wasn't impressed with it and didn't like it. Her exact quote was "I like my car better." My mom was with me when I visited the show, and her quick assessment was "The backseat's like the GTO, and the interior is cheap and ugly." She doesn't follow car news muchless Camaro rumor news, so there's an opinion for ya. :o

I think showing off the base model with low-end interior was a poor move. People like me who don't follow the 5th gen news very often, but get the emails from Camaro5, and even worse, people who don't barely follow any Camaro news whatsoever, were disappointed when they got in the car. I heard a bit of it, from those who were vocal like me, while I was at the show. My first impression was "is this a real car? This interior looks fake." Without being able to get an upclose look at the roped-off Camaros with upgraded interiors at the show, I thought they all had that gross rhinoliner all over them as well. It wasn't until I checked my pics on the computer, that I noticed there's some leather on the door panel, shift lever, steering wheel, etc.

I'm sure the new Camaros are mechanically amazing, but man... I'm not going to kiss ass and say I liked that base level interior. I thought it looked awful.

They need a gay man to do their color, material, and texture selections of something, because none of those were cool. :lol:

Paul,
It was good to meet you and talk to you a few times on Saturday. I spent a lot of time around the Camaros listening to what people had to say about it. Most was positive. And of course some was negative. I also answered a bunch of questions that I overheard. Lots of people were comparing the Camaro to the new Mustang.

Several times on Saturday I walked by the Chevy exhibit, and every time there was a line to get into the base Camaro. Some times the line had more than a dozen people in it. Most were guys, but there were a few girls that got in. NO other cars had such a long line to get into the least expensive model of a car. :lol:

Thanks for the reactions you overheard. It is consistant that the Camaro draws a line and smiles everywhere we have had it.

One of the other "Product Specialists" I spoke with seemed to be more of a salesman from one of the nearby dealerships. I heard him give some info that wasn't completely true. He didn't seem to know the difference in the LS2 and LS3. He kept quoting the price of the SS/RS at $35k, but never mentioned that the 1SS starts at $27k. He also kept telling people about how one of his customers had ordered a 2SS/RS and an LS7, and his dealership was going to do the swap and ship it and everything. The price would be about $65k for everything. He claimed that the LS9 or LSA won't fit because the cradle is wrong... It kind of got annoying listening to him, but he did take pictures of the inside of the SS/RS for me.

Thanks for the info. GM insists that accurate info be given to customers. I'm sorry you were not given the caliber of experience in an interaction we absolutely insist on. It sounds like there is a coaching opportunity there. It will be addressed. BTW, the 1SS base MSRP is $30,995.

I'm a big guy, and I fit very comfortably into the Camaro's driver's seat. Because of the line, I didn't spend much time in it but I was able to get comfortable easily. There seems to be more room than in my wife's 04 Impala for sure. I had a smile on my face just looking at the cars.

Overall I am very impressed with the Camaro, and I think it is going to be a smash hit!

On the other hand, I left a bit sad because the RWD Impala that was supposed to be on this platform has been canceled :( It would have been the best Impala ever. :death: That Impala might have been a good enough to be the car that could help save GM...

I am so glad you were impressed with the new Camaro. Chevrolet has high hopes for the car and it's always encouraging to hear others agree that we have something special to offer.

As for the Impala? One can never say what the future holds, but I doubt the plans were burned... just set aside for possible use at another time.

http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0588.jpg
http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0590.jpg
http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0598.jpg
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http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0600.jpg
http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0607.jpg

some MORE pics. :D

http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0609.jpg
http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0610.jpg
http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0612.jpg
http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0615.jpg

http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0629.jpg
http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/Resize/xIMG_0768.jpg

Hi-Res downloads can be saved from (pls rt click and save-as):
http://www.pancakea.org/Camaro5/Pics/DAS/LS7/

THANKS, PAUL!!!! :thumb:

I thought the driver's side injector cover looked a bit off, but I couldn't really get close enough to really tell.

I thought the driver's side injector cover looked a bit off, but I couldn't really get close enough to really tell.

Good eye!

Yes it's up a little. I think it's due to the LS7 having a bit of an attitude. Somewhat like wearing a hat with a self satisfied tilt to the brim! I noticed it the first time I saw the car.

I pushed the injector cover down and it popped right back up. I tried it again and the same result occured... I figure if that is the way it wants to wear it's "hat"... who am I to argue?

Wow, that LS7 is HOT! :D

I'm so far behind in getting pictures sorted out (sometimes I hate digital since it's so easy to just shoot and shoot and shoot). Anyway, I skipped sorting out some family get together stuff and have some shots from the show. The Camaro pics start at picture 35 (about half way down on the first page).

There are some pics of the 2010 Mustang there, along with anything else I was interested in (almost all Chevy and Cadillac, but a few others). The Mustang was on a platform, so there wasn't any chance of getting up close with the inside.

http://www.halliesplace.com/main.php?g2_itemId=15619&g2_navId=x63817906

I'm so far behind in getting pictures sorted out (sometimes I hate digital since it's so easy to just shoot and shoot and shoot). Anyway, I skipped sorting out some family get together stuff and have some shots from the show. The Camaro pics start at picture 35 (about half way down on the first page).

There are some pics of the 2010 Mustang there, along with anything else I was interested in (almost all Chevy and Cadillac, but a few others). The Mustang was on a platform, so there wasn't any chance of getting up close with the inside.

http://www.halliesplace.com/main.php?g2_itemId=15619&g2_navId=x63817906

Very nice pictures! Very good representation of the actual colors of the interioer and exterior in those pics. I like the fact that the black interior in those pics is actually black! You must have a nice camera.

Very nice pictures! Very good representation of the actual colors of the interioer and exterior in those pics. I like the fact that the black interior in those pics is actually black! You must have a nice camera.

Thanks. I picked up a Nikon D200 fairly cheap when the new D300 came out. I also spent some time making certain I had the white balance as close as I could get it in there. At this point my equipment is much better than my ability.

Thanks. I picked up a Nikon D200 fairly cheap when the new D300 came out. I also spent some time making certain I had the white balance as close as I could get it in there. At this point my equipment is much better than my ability.

There are so many pictures out there of the black interior and it looks gray! I think your ability isn't too bad so far, a lot better than mine with a camera :D