I drove a 2010 SS today!

A friend of mine works at the assembly plant, and he brought a new SS out to give some of us a chance to look at the car and even let a bunch of us drive it!

I got to drive it about 10 miles or so, but the road was very straight, so I didn't get to see how it cornered. I did get the chance to go full throttle a couple of times, it feels about the same as a stock LS1 f-body unfortunately. I figured they would be quicker, but it feels like about a 13.3 at 105 to me. It's got 426hp, but weighs probably 3800 lbs so that obviously hurts performance. The suspension is nice, it felt very comfortable over the bumps, not harsh, but still firm and sporty. I found the seating position odd, it was a lot different than what I'm used to in my C5 Corvette. The gauges are kind of odd looking, IMO, it would take me a while to get used to them. But the entire dash layout is pretty cool, especially the four gauges down low in the console (including trans temp and oil temp, those are nice touches!)

I'm not sure what the name of this color was (I'm sure a lot of you guys in here will tell me what it is), in the pictures it just looks like Victory Red but it's actually a metallic red that has a very strong orange look to it in the direct sunlight.

This car was the 210th one off the assembly line, and I believe they are going to start being sold to the public in mid March. It was very cool to be one of the select few people (outside of GM employees and the automotive press) to have driven one!! It's amazing how fast time flies though, it seems to me like it was just yesterday when I got the chance to see one of the very first 98 Camaro SS pre production models before anyone else saw them.

Here are some pics:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0840.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0841.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0848.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0854.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0838.jpg

WOW...just like when you saw the 1998 Camaro SS (http://www.camaroz28.com/98camaross/), one of our first articles here on CamaroZ28.Com...12 years ago! I remember that day like it was yesterday, and I'll bet I won't remember this one, either! It is cool you got to do that, I just put this one on the front page of the site...again! :)

Thanks, old friend!

Inferno Orange Metallic

A friend of mine works at the assembly plant, and he brought a new SS out to give some of us a chance to look at the car and even let a bunch of us drive it!

I got to drive it about 10 miles or so, but the road was very straight, so I didn't get to see how it cornered. I did get the chance to go full throttle a couple of times, it feels about the same as a stock LS1 f-body unfortunately. I figured they would be quicker, but it feels like about a 13.3 at 105 to me. It's got 426hp, but weighs probably 3800 lbs so that obviously hurts performance. The suspension is nice, it felt very comfortable over the bumps, not harsh, but still firm and sporty. I found the seating position odd, it was a lot different than what I'm used to in my C5 Corvette. The gauges are kind of odd looking, IMO, it would take me a while to get used to them. But the entire dash layout is pretty cool, especially the four gauges down low in the console (including trans temp and oil temp, those are nice touches!)

I'm not sure what the name of this color was (I'm sure a lot of you guys in here will tell me what it is), in the pictures it just looks like Victory Red but it's actually a metallic red that has a very strong orange look to it in the direct sunlight.

This car was the 210th one off the assembly line, and I believe they are going to start being sold to the public in mid March. It was very cool to be one of the select few people (outside of GM employees and the automotive press) to have driven one!! It's amazing how fast time flies though, it seems to me like it was just yesterday when I got the chance to see one of the very first 98 Camaro SS pre production models before anyone else saw them.

Here are some pics:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0840.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0841.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0848.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0854.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0838.jpg

That looks like Inferno Orange maybe? Im Jelous that car looks better and better. Did the steering wheel feel tight and give good road feedback? I know you said you only drove on a straight road but sometimes its seems to me you can feel the steering wheel a bit tighter in your hand.

WOW...just like when you saw the 1998 Camaro SS (http://www.camaroz28.com/98camaross/), one of our first articles here on CamaroZ28.Com...12 years ago! I remember that day like it was yesterday, and I'll bet I won't remember this one, either!

lol huh??? Sorry Jason couldnt resist. Im assuming you meant wont forget.

WOW...just like when you saw the 1998 Camaro SS (http://www.camaroz28.com/98camaross/), one of our first articles here on CamaroZ28.Com...12 years ago! I remember that day like it was yesterday, and I'll bet I won't remember this one, either! It is cool you got to do that, I just put this one on the front page of the site...again! :)

Thanks, old friend!


Jason it does feel just like yesterday when I saw that 98SS for the first time! It brought back all those old memories this morning when I was checking out this new Camaro! The best part was being able to drive this one! In 98 when I got to check out that first SS I wasn't able to drive it.

That looks like Inferno Orange maybe? Im Jelous that car looks better and better. Did the steering wheel feel tight and give good road feedback? I know you said you only drove on a straight road but sometimes its seems to me you can feel the steering wheel a bit tighter in your hand.

To be honest, the steering felt very similar to that of my C5, where it gives good feedback but yet is easy to use in a parking lot too. Everything about this car feels very high quality, GM definitely has built themselves a winner here! It's smooth and quiet, but has enough of a growl to the exhaust (especially when you first start it up, it gives a nice pop!) to let people know it's got an LS3 under the hood. I just wish it was a bit quicker, but perhaps like all LSx engines, it'll get quicker once it's got 10,000 miles on it and has fully loosened up and broken in.

That is awesome! I really like that color too. So overall, were you impressed, disapointed...what was your thoughts after you drove the car? I know you said the seat positioning was odd compared to your vette...but were the seats comfortable? Thanks for sharing your experience with us!

That is awesome! I really like that color too. So overall, were you impressed, disapointed...what was your thoughts after you drove the car? I know you said the seat positioning was odd compared to your vette...but were the seats comfortable? Thanks for sharing your experience with us!


Overall I would have to say I was disappointed that the car didn't have that major rush of acceleration I was expecting, but very impressed overall with the entire car and especially with it's quality feel. The seats were very comfortable for sure, I just found the more upright position a bit different than what I've been used to.

It's also entirely possible that this car could be quicker in the quarter than the LS1 f-body, but just doesn't feel as fast since the LS3 is such a smooth engine and also doesn't have that peaky nature of the LS1 (which tends to feel sluggish down low but then kicks in hard at 3500rpm or so and hits you with a rush of power)

Overall I would have to say I was disappointed that the car didn't have that major rush of acceleration I was expecting, but very impressed overall with the entire car and especially with it's quality feel. The seats were very comfortable for sure, I just found the more upright position a bit different than what I've been used to.

It's also entirely possible that this car could be quicker in the quarter than the LS1 f-body, but just doesn't feel as fast since the LS3 is such a smooth engine and also doesn't have that peaky nature of the LS1 (which tends to feel sluggish down low but then kicks in hard at 3500rpm or so and hits you with a rush of power)

How close does it feel to driving a GTO?

lucky sob.

What is the deal with GM and all the damm fake ram air hoods? From this SS, to the ones on the G* and not to mention the ones that came with the Lame ass GTO.

How close does it feel to driving a GTO?

I've never driven a GTO, they didn't sell them up here in Canada.

I've never driven a GTO, they didn't sell them up here in Canada.you can buy them now fyi. there are a few around.

Awesome. You are a lucky fellow. Does anyone on hear know what happens to a car like this once production of the actual customer ordered cars begins?

Awesome. You are a lucky fellow. Does anyone on hear know what happens to a car like this once production of the actual customer ordered cars begins?

We asked him this question and he said it stays as part of the GM fleet for a while, and then after that who knows. (possibly gets bought by an employee eventually) This one was a full production car, so it probably wouldn't get destroyed like I've heard the pre production cars often do.

This car was the 210th one off the assembly line, and I believe they are going to start being sold to the public in mid March.

Does this mean that a slow run has already begun?

Does this mean that a slow run has already begun?

Yes, production has been going for a little while and continues next week, despite reports by the media that production is on hold for a month. I don't know why they are saying that, especially when GM has 16,000 orders in the system for this car at the moment!

I wonder if the car didn't feel very fast in the same way the CTS-V and GXP didn't due to height off the road and weight in contrast to say a Corvette. Were you driving an automatic or manual? Also I know you said you were pushing it pretty good but were you redlining before shifts and how crisp did it shift?

I wonder if the car didn't feel very fast in the same way the CTS-V and GXP didn't due to height off the road and weight in contrast to say a Corvette. Were you driving an automatic or manual? Also I know you said you were pushing it pretty good but were you redlining before shifts and how crisp did it shift?

It was a manual, and at one point I was holding it at 3000 rpm in first, then I hammered it and shifted quickly to second at about 6000. I'm sure I could've revved it a big higher, but the tach is tricky to read and I didn't want to bump the limiter. Shifting in this car is really nice, it's very easy to drive it hard.

And it's entirely possible that just due to the ride height, that it didn't feel as quick as a Corvette that sits much lower. I'll be very interested in seeing how these cars run down the quarter mile once their owners break them in.

A friend of mine works at the assembly plant, and he brought a new SS out to give some of us a chance to look at the car and even let a bunch of us drive it!

I got to drive it about 10 miles or so, but the road was very straight, so I didn't get to see how it cornered. I did get the chance to go full throttle a couple of times, it feels about the same as a stock LS1 f-body unfortunately. I figured they would be quicker, but it feels like about a 13.3 at 105 to me. It's got 426hp, but weighs probably 3800 lbs so that obviously hurts performance. The suspension is nice, it felt very comfortable over the bumps, not harsh, but still firm and sporty. I found the seating position odd, it was a lot different than what I'm used to in my C5 Corvette. The gauges are kind of odd looking, IMO, it would take me a while to get used to them. But the entire dash layout is pretty cool, especially the four gauges down low in the console (including trans temp and oil temp, those are nice touches!)

I'm not sure what the name of this color was (I'm sure a lot of you guys in here will tell me what it is), in the pictures it just looks like Victory Red but it's actually a metallic red that has a very strong orange look to it in the direct sunlight.

This car was the 210th one off the assembly line, and I believe they are going to start being sold to the public in mid March. It was very cool to be one of the select few people (outside of GM employees and the automotive press) to have driven one!! It's amazing how fast time flies though, it seems to me like it was just yesterday when I got the chance to see one of the very first 98 Camaro SS pre production models before anyone else saw them.

Here are some pics:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0840.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0841.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0848.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0854.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/100_0838.jpg

You are one lucky guy! Thanks for the mini-review and the pics. Was this a 2SS, and if so did the ambient lighting function?

Yes, production has been going for a little while and continues next week, despite reports by the media that production is on hold for a month. I don't know why they are saying that, especially when GM has 16,000 orders in the system for this car at the moment!

Good to hear, can't wait for March 16th! 16,000?? Wow, didn't realize that it was this high already!

I guess they will be running around soon enough. Maybe I'll be able to talk someone into leting me drive one.

Yes, production has been going for a little while and continues next week, despite reports by the media that production is on hold for a month. I don't know why they are saying that, especially when GM has 16,000 orders in the system for this car at the moment!

This is huge news!!! Scott, we need your input here. This does not look like the delay till March that was spoken of. I mean, they said they had to delay
production to get some flaws fixed. So are they not going to fix them, or did they get the fixes in time for Feb. production? We need some clarification from someone in the know. :)

can't wait for March 16th! 16

Why? According to this thread, the production has already begun.

Why? According to this thread, the production has already begun.

Customer orders have not begun yet...that car was the 210th off the line of production cars that are for testing and evaluation only.

Customer orders have not begun yet...that car was the 210th off the line of production cars that are for testing and evaluation only.

COOL!!! Hopefully that means that some magazines will finally get their grubby little hands on a few test models for reviews!

Customer orders have not begun yet...that car was the 210th off the line of production cars that are for testing and evaluation only.

One of the other moderators on LS1Tech.com has a car on order and he's been told that his car is being built today, and he'll have it in mid March.

You are one lucky guy! Thanks for the mini-review and the pics. Was this a 2SS, and if so did the ambient lighting function?

It must've been a 2SS since it had the four extra gauges in the center console, but I didn't notice the ambient lighting function since I drove it during the day. In retrospect I now wish I had spent more time paying attention to a lot more of the "details" about this car. I was just so much in awe that I was actually getting to drive one that I didn't even think about all the little stuff. Hopefully someone else on here gets to drive one soon and will take notes when they drive it so they can write a more detailed report than me. :)

If it's not faster than an LS1, something's wrong. Even if it is faster and doesn't feel it, something is still wrong with that scenario. TQ and the feeling of power is why many of us buy these cars. Hopefully it feels sporty and not like a powerful sedan or something.

13.3??? i hope its a little better than that.

One of the other moderators on LS1Tech.com has a car on order and he's been told that his car is being built today, and he'll have it in mid March.

I find that hard to believe, but that would be very cool if that were true!

It must've been a 2SS since it had the four extra gauges in the center console, but I didn't notice the ambient lighting function since I drove it during the day. In retrospect I now wish I had spent more time paying attention to a lot more of the "details" about this car. I was just so much in awe that I was actually getting to drive one that I didn't even think about all the little stuff. Hopefully someone else on here gets to drive one soon and will take notes when they drive it so they can write a more detailed report than me. :)

If it had leather, than it was a 2SS. No big deal about the ambient lighting. I hear you about paying attention to the details, I do the same thing. i can know everything there is to know about a car, then I actually get inside the car and everything goes out the window and I am only focused on just being in awe:lol:

I want a SS in Inferno Orange Metallic with Cyber Grey Metallic stripes and the orange accent interior so bad.

Thanks for the preview! Man, you are so lucky to be able to drive one. :yes: Looking at the pics can you tell us how the Ram Air works? I saw the airbox on the driver's side and away from the center intake. Is it all cosmetics? Thanks!

Thanks for the preview! Man, you are so lucky to be able to drive one. :yes: Looking at the pics can you tell us how the Ram Air works? I saw the airbox on the driver's side and away from the center intake. Is it all cosmetics? Thanks!

I have no idea how that all works, I'm sure someone else on here could probably explain it though.

If it's not faster than an LS1, something's wrong. Even if it is faster and doesn't feel it, something is still wrong with that scenario. TQ and the feeling of power is why many of us buy these cars. Hopefully it feels sporty and not like a powerful sedan or something.
In reality, it is a powerful sedan, but with just 2 doors.

This car is going to be a minimum of 500 pounds heavier than an LS1 Camaro. The V8 will have about 50 more horsepower and a similar increase in torque.
Acceleration should be close to a fully loaded LS1 SS. The gearing in the automatic should help quite a bit. One of the first mods that a manual transmission Camaro owner might do is change the rear end gears to something like a 4.10 which will greatly help with acceleration.

Oh yeah, I'm jealous of you Patman :)

Thanks for the preview! Man, you are so lucky to be able to drive one. :yes: Looking at the pics can you tell us how the Ram Air works? I saw the airbox on the driver's side and away from the center intake. Is it all cosmetics? Thanks!

Welcome to the board. This topic was beaten into the ground a couple of years ago. The mailslot on the nose of the SS is completely bogus. There is NO Ram Air on the Camaro sorry to say. But there is always the aftermarket.

Cool, thanks for sharing. Too bad you can't really comment on the cornering. :(

Mustangs had a similar 'feel' when going from the 04 to the 05 model. The new chassis was just so much better, that they didn't feel fast, yet they were faster. They were much more under control. Might be the same he experienced.

Nice pics and write-up. Thanks!

It appears to have had the orange interior. How did it look and did you per chance get a picture of it?

Nice pics and write-up. Thanks!

It appears to have had the orange interior. How did it look and did you per chance get a picture of it?


I didn't get any pics of the interior myself, but luckily there were lots of other people snapping pics yesterday, so here are three interior shots taken by my friend Peter:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/NewCamaroSSShoot004.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/NewCamaroSSShoot005.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/NewCamaroSSShoot006.jpg

I didn't get any pics of the interior myself, but luckily there were lots of other people snapping pics yesterday, so here are three interior shots taken by my friend Peter

Thanks! :thumb:

I didn't get any pics of the interior myself, but luckily there were lots of other people snapping pics yesterday, so here are three interior shots taken by my friend Peter:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/NewCamaroSSShoot004.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/NewCamaroSSShoot005.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/NewCamaroSSShoot006.jpg

Very nice, thanks.

Interesting that it doesn't have the orange door panels or dash panels. I know I had the option of orange leather when I ordered mine, and that was a prerequisite of the accent package. Makes me wonder if the door panels and dash panel are extra...?

Interesting that it doesn't have the orange door panels or dash panels. I know I had the option of orange leather when I ordered mine, and that was a prerequisite of the accent package. Makes me wonder if the door panels and dash panel are extra...?

no, its supposed to come with the orange interior. i wonder why this one didnt have the orange accent panels though.

It looks to me like there aren't any interior trim panels installed. Don't the base cars even have the metallic looking door panels? I wonder if the orange seats were ready but they didn't have enough trim panels or something and since it's a pilot car they just left 'em off for now.

i was snooping around on camaro 5 and found this picture from the same car

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s177/Zedder_photos/NewCamaroInterior.jpg

Now if im not mistaken the 2 SS is fully mech adjustable seats.

My theory is that they intended this to be a 1 SS then just decided to stick on a gauge pack and the orange leather...

More to back it up... Look at the armrest on the door for both of these pictures... on the first (the 1SS) there is no orange stitching but then on the 2nd picture (2SS) at Barrett Jackson there is orange stitching... Then the reason is on the first pic (1SS) sides of the center armrest are more grainy and low quality plastic while on the B.J. camaro (2SS) it is more of a high quality and smooth and shiny enough to reflect my flash finish to it.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/NewCamaroSSShoot005.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/tkc2351/BarretJacksonsat271.jpg?t=1234817932

i hope that is enough to prove it is a 1SS!

Overall I would have to say I was disappointed that the car didn't have that major rush of acceleration I was expecting, but very impressed overall with the entire car and especially with it's quality feel. The seats were very comfortable for sure, I just found the more upright position a bit different than what I've been used to.

It's also entirely possible that this car could be quicker in the quarter than the LS1 f-body, but just doesn't feel as fast since the LS3 is such a smooth engine and also doesn't have that peaky nature of the LS1 (which tends to feel sluggish down low but then kicks in hard at 3500rpm or so and hits you with a rush of power)

I remember that was the same thing we said in late 1997 when the LS1 made it's way into the F-body. Everyone said it didn't feel fast especially down low where the torque peak of the LT1 was. We all thought that our LT1's with "only 20hp" less would run close. But the beauty of the alloy LS1 was it's smooth power delivery and as they say the rest is history.

Sure there is an extra 400-500 lbs of car to haul but the LS3 is plenty powerful enough to make up for it. I think time will judge this car well in terms of it's drag prowness.

Wow I've been hating on this car because of the interior, but that 2ss looks awesome with the colored leather... I guess I should wait till I actually sit in one to make my decision :)

That head rest is bleh, IMO hehe.

Wow I've been hating on this car because of the interior, but that 2ss looks awesome with the colored leather... I guess I should wait till I actually sit in one to make my decision :)
i sat in one today and it is indeed comfortable (way better then the mustang!) but the interior is still a let down. IMO the design is horrible and the plastics used are not the best.


out of all 3 (camaro, mustang, challenger) the challenger wins hands down. too bad they are too big and heavy. nevermind you need to step up to SRT-8 specs. camaros will make a good used buy when the price drops to match the low end interior.

Yeah, it looks like it has 1SS door panels and dash inserts.
I wonder what gives.

That's the way I would actually want mine (light gray interior w/light gray fabric door & dash inserts). I don't like the shiny, hard plastic inserts.

If that is a SS IMO its just too bland for a SS car.

I am no fan of non functioning hood scoops, useless badging and wings but that car looks really bland and generally boring. I love the design of the new Camaro but cant they spice it up a bit for the SS?

If the car has a VIN with 210 at the end it is a sellable car.
Will probably be used by an executive to drive around for 3-6months or so, but that car will be on a dealer's lot for sale within 6-9months.

The all new 2003 Cadillac CTS came out January 2, 2002. I have personally seen CTSs on the dealers lots as executive cars built in November 2001.

If that is a SS IMO its just too bland for a SS car.

I am no fan of non functioning hood scoops, useless badging and wings but that car looks really bland and generally boring. I love the design of the new Camaro but cant they spice it up a bit for the SS?

What is bland for it? There are alot of difference between this car you are seeing and a V6 car...

God, you guys remeber all the good times..... My most memorable camaro moment was when I picked "muscle car" magazine and on the front page it said. "GM to kill the Camaro"

I almost cryied

I can't state with any certainty exactly what the SS Camaro will do on the test track but the following articles are vehicles that in my opinion serve as good examples of where I believe we should expect the SS to perform.

Lexus IS-F (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0712_2008_lexus_is_f/specifications.html)

Aston Martin V8 Vantage (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0904_2009_aston_martin_v8_vantage_test/price_and_specs.html)

2010 Jaguar XKR (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0901_2010_jaguar_xkr_first_look/index.html)

I did get the chance to go full throttle a couple of times, it feels about the same as a stock LS1 f-body unfortunately. I figured they would be quicker, but it feels like about a 13.3 at 105 to me. It's got 426hp, but weighs probably 3800 lbs so that obviously hurts performance.

I forgot to ask but did you have a chance to engage the Launch Control feature on your test drive? And the weight is supposed to be 3860 lbs, roughly 40-50 lbs. heavier than the comparison cars I listed in my post above, with considerably more torque as well though (and yes, the Aston is 200 lbs lighter, but in the same ballpark in my opinion).

What is bland for it? There are alot of difference between this car you are seeing and a V6 car...

Nope. Exterior is front bumper, emblems, and mailslot. Interior is gauges and SS on seats. I agree with the blandness. They both look too similar. (V6 has the better front bumper also)

I forgot to ask but did you have a chance to engage the Launch Control feature on your test drive?


I didn't even know the car had it, but even if I did, I wouldn't have tried that feature for fear of breaking something.

Just realized the inside door handles remind me of chrome Third Gen handles. :D Anyone else notice that CAMARO is not centered on the steering wheel?

looks like it was intended to be a 1ss but they put the leather in. the dash panels are not nearly as shiney as they should be if it were the plastic like on the 2ss

looks like it was intended to be a 1ss but they put the leather in. the dash panels are not nearly as shiney as they should be if it were the plastic like on the 2ss

They're not shiny because they are fabric.

Overall I would have to say I was disappointed that the car didn't have that major rush of acceleration I was expecting
Believe it or not my friends GT500 was extremely tame for a 500hp car until it got a tune!
All the LS3 vette guys seem to say the same thing. CAI and a tune seem to make a big difference. Add headers and these motors sing!
Too bad people are saying any reflashing of the PCM is now detectable and voids your warranty.... We'll see how that goes.

Hell, Silverado pickups with drive-by-wire suck until they get a tune!! Mine felt a lot different after just a tune.

They're not shiny because they are fabric.

hence, why i said it was a 1ss. 1ss comes with cloth and fabric panels.

lucky sob.

I second that:cool:

Welcome to the board. This topic was beaten into the ground a couple of years ago. The mailslot on the nose of the SS is completely bogus. There is NO Ram Air on the Camaro sorry to say. But there is always the aftermarket.

christianjax...thanks for the welcome and that piece of info. Too bad about the RAM Air...aftermarket here we come!:D

I wouldn't worry about the feel of performance. The IRS will affect the feel. The biggest difference is the Torque Management on these cars. It's much more aggressive then the old f-bod with limitations on aggressive throttle openings in the lower gears and spark mapping after gear shifts. Once tunes are done, the car will turn into a beast and traction will become an issue. The e-throttle feels very different also. Also, if you didn't turn off the traction control that will change the feel.

For those worried about the tunes being detectable, surf the G8 boards. They all ready have solutions to that. Stealth feature that makes the tune undetectable or just having a second tuned computer.

Overall I would have to say I was disappointed that the car didn't have that major rush of acceleration I was expecting, but very impressed overall with the entire car and especially with it's quality feel. The seats were very comfortable for sure, I just found the more upright position a bit different than what I've been used to.

It's also entirely possible that this car could be quicker in the quarter than the LS1 f-body, but just doesn't feel as fast since the LS3 is such a smooth engine and also doesn't have that peaky nature of the LS1 (which tends to feel sluggish down low but then kicks in hard at 3500rpm or so and hits you with a rush of power)

I haven't been able to sit in one (yet)... so I can't comment on the seat comfort. But I'll agree with you 100% on the gauges. Actually, I don't like anything about the dash at all. It's ugly and reminds me of those mid-80's base-model Mustangs... with each gauge in its own square "pod".

The exterior of the car is awesome, the seats don't LOOK that bad, but again I'll have to sit in them to see how they feel. The dash and gauges, though... :barf:

I didn't get any pics of the interior myself, but luckily there were lots of other people snapping pics yesterday, so here are three interior shots taken by my friend Peter:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n145/Patman22/NewCamaroSSShoot004.jpg


That's what I meant... Gawd... those gauges and stereo are butt-ugly!! :no:

call it what you want but i think it looks great. it fits the car perfectly.

I haven't been able to sit in one (yet)... so I can't comment on the seat comfort. But I'll agree with you 100% on the gauges. Actually, I don't like anything about the dash at all. It's ugly and reminds me of those mid-80's base-model Mustangs... with each gauge in its own square "pod".

The exterior of the car is awesome, the seats don't LOOK that bad, but again I'll have to sit in them to see how they feel. The dash and gauges, though... :barf:seats are great!

those seats are extremely comfortable.

That's what I meant... Gawd... those gauges and stereo are butt-ugly!! :no:

Have you seen the interior in person? I had some reservations about the interior as well, but after seeing one for the first time last weekend, all I can say is that it is right up there with the newest and best interiors from GM. Pictures do not do this car justice at all, interior or exterior!

those seats are extremely comfortable.i didn't get long enough time in it nor could i move the seat to say how comfortable they are but they didn't stick out so its a good sign.

Have you seen the interior in person? I had some reservations about the interior as well, but after seeing one for the first time last weekend, all I can say is that it is right up there with the newest and best interiors from GM. Pictures do not do this car justice at all, interior or exterior!i have seen it in person and IMO it looks just like the pics do. cheap. some soft tough plastic would do wonders for it. that and something better for the gauge surround.

The seats are VERY comfy. I sat in the Jax Show car for about 20 minutes.;)

The seats are VERY comfy. I sat in the Jax Show car for about 20 minutes.;)there was too many people around the ones in toronto to get that kind of seat time in it. which is a good thing.



not many folks hung around the 2010 mustang (but you couldn't sit in those).

there was too many people around the ones in toronto to get that kind of seat time in it. which is a good thing.



not many folks hung around the 2010 mustang (but you couldn't sit in those).

The same in Jax. I was lucky enough to get to go to the VIP Party the night before the show opened to the public. So there was only about 30-40 guests in the whole convention center and most of them were at the free bar. I was sitting in the Camaro all by my lonesome. It was heaven.:D

The same in Jax. I was lucky enough to get to go to the VIP Party the night before the show opened to the public. So there was only about 30-40 guests in the whole convention center and most of them were at the free bar. I was sitting in the Camaro all by my lonesome. It was heaven.:D
:mad: lucky sob!










:p must've been nice to spend that much time with it.

:mad: lucky sob!










:p must've been nice to spend that much time with it.

It sure didn't suck. :D

i just can't wait till i can go drive one.

Yes, production has been going for a little while and continues next week, despite reports by the media that production is on hold for a month. I don't know why they are saying that, especially when GM has 16,000 orders in the system for this car at the moment!

IDK but I'm in panama city Florida. The local dealer here told me that the push back was because the 3rd party that was making the door panels went out of business. they had to find someone else. They told me they would have them April 11th, but they where all ready sold but took my name and # and said he would call so i could at least come by and look at them before they where gone.

Wow, thanks for the write up and the pics. Makes me want to buy one. I never thought I'd replace my car but this might the one to replace it with. I want to see some real track times for the car though.

I can't state with any certainty exactly what the SS Camaro will do on the test track but the following articles are vehicles that in my opinion serve as good examples of where I believe we should expect the SS to perform.

Lexus IS-F (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0712_2008_lexus_is_f/specifications.html)

Aston Martin V8 Vantage (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0904_2009_aston_martin_v8_vantage_test/price_and_specs.html)

2010 Jaguar XKR (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0901_2010_jaguar_xkr_first_look/index.html)

Why compare to cars double the price?

Awesome experience TS. I'm going to agree with most of the points in this thread. Low miles on motor, strict tuning, along with a superior chassis makes everything feel slower.

I have a feeling it will perform like a GTO, and respond even better than one after a tune.

These BIG cars have an M6, but you have to realize its not geared towards performance at all, 5th and 6th are OD's, I had to get used to actually shifting alot, in this much more powerful car than my little SVT focus, where even 5th gear was 1:1 due to dual shafts in the transmission, much more agressive for road racing etc...

The engine always seems to be lugging the tranny around... I'm still not used to it and it's been two months. I think they need more agressive rear gears from the factory to help move their mass around...

I also noticed they use the same strut mount/bearing than the GTO's, which means buying your maro and calling lovells or Pedders immediately for a replacement, possibly...

Well, I've missed out on TWO opportunities to drive a new Camaro so far!!! :shame: And of course, the first one was a black, 6-speed, SS!! :cry: The second car was a yellow, auto, V6. And the worst part is? My parents got to drive them ... even my mother!?!??! :irk:

(my parents' neighbour works at the plant in Oshawa ;)).

Anyway, I should hopefully be getting my chance soon ... like THIS WEEK maybe?? :shrug: I hope he brings another 6-speed SS home ... I'll try to take it for a good road test, throw some corners at it, and see how she feels :thumb:.

However, my Dad's report was that the SS ran like a raped ape ... he said he lugged it down in 4th gear, then hammered on it, and it just started pulling :yes:. He even said the auto V6 was surprisingly quick ... even kicked the back end out a little when he punched it ;). No surprise, for a car with as much HP as a V8 Mustang!!! :D

Anyway, I should hopefully be getting my chance soon ... like THIS WEEK maybe?? :shrug: you better f'n call me!:mad:

i'm home all week as i got layed off.

i have a 2008 corvette with a 6 speed and this car is so fast, believe me i used to have a 400rwhp 1994 z28 with heads cam the whole 9 yards and no comparison the ls3 just climbs and keeps climbing. i know the camaro will be a lot heavier but you guys will be very pleased. the other day driving home from work an ls1 with aftermarket exhaust and who knows what else pulled along side of me going about 50mph we both punched it and i swear it was embarassing. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO LOVE THE LS3

I work for GM and I am being told by some good sources that it is very possible that next year the camaro will have the vette motor with a wet sump and will produce 556h.p. Is there any truth to this?

I heard it would be a Z and have the Cadillac CTS-V engine.

Yeah, I would think that would be the Z28 if GM is financially able to do so.
Doesn't look good. At least not for awhile.

I work for GM and I am being told by some good sources that it is very possible that next year the camaro will have the vette motor with a wet sump and will produce 556h.p. Is there any truth to this?

If this does get built for production it is definitely not happening next year! I would say at least a few years a way, if it actually happens at all.