Manual or Automatic Tap Shift?

Curious on what you will all be getting!

Been my debate for weeks...going on months. I ordered an M6 but changed it to an A6. I don't think I will change it back...tough...tough...

I just don't know if that automatic will do it for me. There's nothing like holding in that clutch on a 420hp car and dumping it and tearing up the streets......

I agree...but there is also nothing like holding the gas to the floor and still rowing through the gears in a very precise manner. We are talking the closest thing to F1-inspired technology in a Camaro for the first time ever, and from what I am told, there is serious focus on the performance of the A6. It is no gimmick.

I agree...but there is also nothing like holding the gas to the floor and still rowing through the gears in a very precise manner. We are talking the closest thing to F1-inspired technology in a Camaro for the first time ever, and from what I am told, there is serious focus on the performance of the A6. It is no gimmick.

I agree, can not wait to drive my SS with the A6/paddles! I know it will be a blast.

I'm on the fence but leaning to the Manual. If I get the auto, my wife can drive it, which is a plus and a minus.

The paddles almost seem pointless. I understand the way they work and how to use them, but its just not the same.

I actually got to drive a 'Vette from Baltimore MD to Easton PA for my dealership, and it had the paddles. I took the windey way home. It was fun, but it just didn't feel the same. I feel if I had the paddles, I would just ride in normal auto mode all the time.

I actually got to drive a 'Vette from Baltimore MD to Easton PA for my dealership, and it had the paddles. I took the windey way home. It was fun, but it just didn't feel the same. I feel if I had the paddles, I would just ride in normal auto mode all the time.

I think if i was crusiing around, sure...but if I want to turn it up, I will enable the paddles and crank that sucka' up.

To me, it would be like having a manual and driving it easy and then taching it up and speed shifintg when I feel like playing. :)

Besides...forced induction is better with an A6 IMO, in this case.

cool another one turned on to the the 6L80e, this should be a great trans and with a stall and some tuning it will be a very good trans to take out the m6 guys

I just don't know if that automatic will do it for me. There's nothing like holding in that clutch on a 420hp car and dumping it and tearing up the streets......


except launching a 550+ hp engine with a stall converter and some sticky tires, i cant wait

When I have to drive an automatic, id rather just let it shift itself. It isn't fun to push a button and wait for the thing to respond. While I understand that automatics are better at some things like drag racing or offroading, there is a reason neither my camaro nor my truck are automatics. It just isn't fun to drive without instantly felling the change in the engine when you hit the gas or the feeling of being a badass as you heel-toe and downshift right before a corner then slide the rear a bit as you exit.

It isn't fun to push a button and wait for the thing to respond.

From what I hear, they are pretty serious about having it be very responsive.

Tapshift as long as it isn't like the Lexus GS400s which would take the shift requests as a "suggestion" rather than actually doing it when you needed it.

Tapshift as long as it isn't like the Lexus GS400s which would take the shift requests as a "suggestion" rather than actually doing it when you needed it.

I know upshifts on most GM manumatics will not shift unless you actually shift, some even let you wait right up unitl the redline, like the C6 Vette. As far as downshifts, it usually downshifts by itself when you slow down if you do not shift manually. The Vette I believe downshifts to 2nd gear automatically if no manual shift has occurred, so if you stop and take off again at say a traffic light, then you would start off in 2nd gear.

I really wish I could test drive both the tap shift and stick shift, and see which one is better. Because sometimes there's a crap tap shift gear box and it ruins the fun of the car, and sometimes theres a lazy stick shift on a car. I really hope GM did both really well so no one feels like one is superior to another.... In this way we can keep up the arguement.

manual for me. i love shifting through the gears. especially down shifting and spinning the tires!

Manual! I'd love to see more info on the no lift to shift. I haven't been able to find much info on it.

I agree, can not wait to drive my SS with the A6/paddles! I know it will be a blast.

I ORDER A6 TOO ITS GOING TO BE GREAT :cool:

It all depends on the tap shift. depends how fast it changes the gears. On my M3 it does it pretty good and quick. but for a camaro, i think i would like it in Manuel. thats what i have currently and i love it..

It all depends on the tap shift. depends how fast it changes the gears. On my M3 it does it pretty good and quick. but for a camaro, i think i would like it in Manuel. thats what i have currently and i love it..

The SMG transmission in your BMW is VASTLY superior to the automatic that GM is going to put in the new camaro. IIRC in the M3, it is mechanically a manual transmission but that does not have a clutch... Not at all the same thing that GM is planning for the 5th gen. if I'm understanding the posts it will just be a regular automatic that will allow you change gears yourself if you put it in tapshift mode, much like a traditional 'tip tronic' auto trans.

Vastly superior on the racetrack but not really all that great day to day.

Hey All,

I guess the disadvantage of ordering on October 13th is that you didn't get to try out the transmissions. When I ordered mine, it just seemed wrong to get an automatic for this car. Afterall, it is a sports car.

But like Jason, I changed my order to the automatic. I think that the tap shift will do what I want. It also looks like the aquisition of a drink in the cup holder will inhibit shifting!!!

I really would like to see what the launch control and no lift shift will do. But with the paddle shifters and side benefit of remote start, I'm in on the automatic this round...but I'm sure that there will be a round two when either a Z28 or convertible make the scene!!

Z~

Hey All,

I guess the disadvantage of ordering on October 13th is that you didn't get to try out the transmissions. When I ordered mine, it just seemed wrong to get an automatic for this car. Afterall, it is a sports car.

But like Jason, I changed my order to the automatic. I think that the tap shift will do what I want. It also looks like the aquisition of a drink in the cup holder will inhibit shifting!!!

I really would like to see what the launch control and no lift shift will do. But with the paddle shifters and side benefit of remote start, I'm in on the automatic this round...but I'm sure that there will be a round two when either a Z28 or convertible make the scene!!

Z~

I'm with Jason and you for sure. JASON, I completely agree with the idea of having an F1 type experience while driving. I know I have never driven one, but I'm thinking it will be some what like driving a Lambo or Ferrari. Back in the 80's the third generation Camaros were call by some the American Ferraris.

I want the lauch control! I want to fully enjoy the car and all of it's features that makes this car closer to a luxury vehicle without having to shift all of the time. If and when I take it to the road course or find myself on a road with alot of turns and little hills, I can have the fun of reving, up and down shifting as I please.

From what I remember (and correct me if i'm wrong), but for those that had gone to Indy this past September I remember hearing that the A6 was going to be very responsive and it was going to be completely manual when in that mode. So it will not upshift unless you UPSHIFT, and it will only downshift if you DOWNSHIFT (it's the downshift I can't remember what they said though).

I have personally heard Al Oppenheiser mention more than once that the car will shift when YOU want it to shift, and not when IT wants to shift. He said if you don't tap the pad on the steering wheel, it will go up to the rev limiter.

So my other concern with the A6 would be durability. How much HP can it handle in comparison with the M6 and will you wear out the A6 prematurely if you downshift on a roll to bring the rpms up.

I know in my old 700R4 this is what killed the tranny for me. I would downshift while driving to bring the rpms to about 4000 or so when I wanted to race from a roll.

I just finished a 3 day swap with Number 3 for an A6 2SS. I can assure you that for those of you that wanted or needed the automaice transmission, you won't be dissapointed. For me, I prefer the manual. It's just what I'm comfortable with. It's where I rest my right hand. It is more natural for me.

I can assure you that the A6 DOES NOT shift until you tap the upshift button. It will hold against the rev limiter just like a manual.

The speed of the shift in the automatic is very good and it would be arguable if you could shift the manual faster if at all.

The buttons and shift quality to me are very nearly identical to the CTS-V automatic. The buttons have the same feel and location relative to your hands.

The best thing here is that either way, manual or automatic you are getting a great set-up. Both are easy driving cars. So I believe it merely comes down to your preference, manual or auto. Both 6 speeds with proven track records.

I would have to say that although you might be the closest ever to an F1 Gear box, you are a lonnggggggggg way from an F1 gearbox. An F1 transmission is basically an automatic manual. The clutch is there but it is automatically disengaged.

F1 car gearboxes are different to road car gearboxes in that they are semi-automatic and have no synchromesh. They are sequential which means they operate much like a motorcycle gearbox, with the gears being changed by a rotating barrel with selector forks around it. The lack of a synchromesh means that the engine electronics must synchronise the speed of the engine with the speed of the gearbox internals before engaging a gear.

Can't wait to give it a try.

Three...when will you be back in my area with an A6 car? :)

Can't wait to give it a try.

Three...when will you be back in my area with an A6 car? :)

This one is actually the only A6 I know of. Everything else I've driven is a manual. I can try to arrange another swap sometime in the future and work out a visit.

Sounds cool. You got my info, give me a buzz. :)

Sounds cool. You got my info, give me a buzz. :)

OOAH OOAH, let me know as well! I'll be more then happy to work that into my schedule!!:D