Disciples (or Scott)...get in here!

For those of you that drove the V6, how would you compare the acceleration to the LT1 and LS1 4th gens, on a scale of 1 to 10 maybe.

I will say it felt like 90% of my LS1 Camaro when it was stock. Then again, it had been a while since that time, but it was terrifically impressive regardless...dare I say..."for a V6". Some of the greatest cars ever made were about the driving experience just as much as sheer power numbers. The driving experience of the V6 2010 Camaro makes up for that 10% and then some. You'll see.

Hard to tell without doing a head to head comparison together. .

I'd say the 5th gen V6 will hold its own.. but I think an LS1 will take it. LT1s???? that could get close.

It'll be interesting to see timeslips, thats for sure.

Do any of you know if the V6 will be governed?

I'm guessing with 300 horsepower, it should easily touch 155 if it isn't.

If so, that makes an even stronger case for buying the V6 and just might make it the cheapest car in the US to reach that top speed if you don't have to buy packages to have a governed-free top end.


BTW, CLEAN, the LT1 typically ran to 60 in the upper 5 second range. The V6 5th gen Camaro was estimated at 6 flat, but according to a couple of people on the project, they are going to aiming for consistent sub-6 second times before they finalize the programing, if that helps put it into perspective. :)

For the total driving experience, the V6 is right up there IMHO. An incredibly responsive engine/tranny combo. I drove the manual

With respect to acceleration, the V6 will not dethrone the LT1 or LS1 in a 0-60 or 1/4 mi. contest, but it will still give an excellent account of itself and it's an absolute blast to run up through the gears! Gotta love the RPM range on this baby - not to mention the sound!!

The LT1 is a beast with its low end torque, but it runs out of breath relatively early, which is exactly when the LS1 catches fire - in the upper RPM range.

On a number scale, if the LS1 is a 10, then the LT1 would be an 8 in the 1/4 mi or a 9 in 0-60 dash. The V6 5th Gen would rate a solid 7-8 in my book.

Best regardSS,

Elie

Do any of you know if the V6 will be governed?

I'm guessing with 300 horsepower, it should easily touch 155 if it isn't.

If so, that makes an even stronger case for buying the V6 and just might make it the cheapest car in the US to reach that top speed if you don't have to buy packages to have a governed-free top end.


BTW, CLEAN, the LT1 typically ran to 60 in the upper 5 second range. The V6 5th gen Camaro was estimated at 6 flat, but according to a couple of people on the project, they are going to aiming for consistent sub-6 second times before they finalize the programing, if that helps put it into perspective. :)
I believe the V6 is indeed governed to 155 mph.:D
Early LT1 cars were 5.6-5.7 in a 0-60 dash with the later 285 HP versions turning a couple of ticks faster. I would be quite surprised if a stock 5th Gen V6 had difficulty breaking into the 5's on a regular basis.
FWIW, my L67 Bonneville LE stripper with a pulley and 9" open cone K&N runs a 5.9 - 6.0 0-60 on the G-Tech and has 14.5x timeslips (on cool nights) to back that up.
The 5th Gen V6 definitely felt a bit quicker than my Bonny...

Best regardSS,

Elie

still working on tuning -- so too early to give 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

All cars are electrontically governed -- based on the tire rating symbol on the car as it leaves the factory.

I don't know the governed speeds right now - but I can assure you that the LS will be governed to a much lower speed than 155 -- as I recall, the V6 (1998-2002 == because of the Eagle GA tires) was governed to 110.......

What is the speed rating on the tires? If its fitted with a W rated tire my guess would be limited to 155 or not limited at all.

Thanks all. Mrs CLEAN still trying to decide what to get. Now if we could just get the story on white....

still working on tuning -- so too early to give 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

All cars are electrontically governed -- based on the tire rating symbol on the car as it leaves the factory.

I don't know the governed speeds right now - but I can assure you that the LS will be governed to a much lower speed than 155 -- as I recall, the V6 (1998-2002 == because of the Eagle GA tires) was governed to 110.......

Awww that's no fun. I get my VW Golf up faster then that each morning on my way to work. :lol:

...not much more I can add than the rest, ...especially since I only drove the Ivers (V8) car. But I did spend a bit of time listening to Elie (First, ...when he tore out it the blasted thing ;), ...and then hearing his reaction afterwards :) ).

still working on tuning -- so too early to give 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

All cars are electrontically governed -- based on the tire rating symbol on the car as it leaves the factory.

I don't know the governed speeds right now - but I can assure you that the LS will be governed to a much lower speed than 155 -- as I recall, the V6 (1998-2002 == because of the Eagle GA tires) was governed to 110.......

155 for the ss? the z51 corvette is governed to 185. that sucks. whos idea was it to go with pirelli's any ways?

cant they just not govern it and make a disclamer on the car?

155 for the ss? the z51 corvette is governed to 185. that sucks. whos idea was it to go with pirelli's any ways?

cant they just not govern it and make a disclamer on the car?

Reading comprehension>You

He was talking about the LS.

the z51 corvette is governed to 185.

Where did you hear that?

I believe 186 is the top speed it'll hit. I don't believe it's governed, that's just wind drag etc.

cant they just not govern it and make a disclamer on the car?

If the F5 is governed to say 155, it wouldn't be due to using the Pirelli brand, as speed increases you have to reduce the load (while increasing the tire pressure) that the tire is rated for. It becomes a matter of not being able to fit a big enough tire to carry the load at a high rate of speed for an extended period of time. (Just imagine an F5 loaded with 5 big boned fatties, a full tank of gas, roof rack loaded with luggage because the trunk is so full it is almost going to explode going down the autobahn at near the cars terminal velocity)

Short bursts of speed aren't a problem (witness the plethora of heavy cars running S rate 165/80R15's bug tires as front runners on some very fast drag cars)

Inflation pressure increase must not exceed the maximum pressure branded on the tire sidewall. When a customer requests a replacement tire with a lower speed rating than the original equipment tire, you must clearly communicate to him or her that the handling of the vehicle may be different, and that its maximum speed capability is limited to that of the lowest speed-rated tire on the vehicle. Exceeding the lawful speed limit is neither recommended nor endorsed.

For high-speed driving, additional inflation pressure and possibly reduced tire loading and/or upsizing is required. In the absence of specific recommendations by the vehicle manufacturer, use the following guidelines based on those in the European Tyre and Rim Technical Organization Standards Manual.

For speeds over 160km/h (100 mph), load and inflation must be adjusted according to the table below.

H-Speed Rated Sizes:
Maximum Speed (mph) 100 106 112 118 124 130
Inflation Increase (psi) 0.0 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0
Load Capacity (% of max.) 100 100 100 100 100 100

V-Speed Rated Sizes:
Maximum Speed (mph) 100 106 112 118 124 130 136 143 149
Inflation Increase (psi) 0 1 2 3 4 5 5 5 5
Load Capacity (% of max) 100 100 100 100 100 100 97 94 91

W-Speed Rated Sizes:
Maximum Speed (mph) 118 124 130 136 143 149 155 161 168
Inflation Increase (psi) 0 1.5 3.0 4.5 6.0 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5
Load Capacity (% of max) 100 100 100 100 100 100 95 90 85

Y-Speed Rated Sizes:
Maximum Speed (mph) 118 124 130 136 143 149 155 161 168 174 180 186
Inflation Increase (psi) 0 0 0 0 1.5 3 4.5 6 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5
Load Capacity (% of max) 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 95 90 85

courtesy of BFGoodrich tires

Where did you hear that?

car and driver new issue that i got yesterday. it compares the z51 to the z06 to the zr1

Reading comprehension>You

He was talking about the LS.

ok my bad i just realized he was talking about the v6. i was reading it too quickly

FWIW, ('cuz we all know not to bet our lives on information being true since it appears in the press!), the recent article in Motor Trend specifically states that the V6 is electronically limited to 155 mph. (page 2, bottom paragraph)
Definitely not the LS from what Scott is saying.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0811_2010_chevrolet_camaro_v6_first_drive/interior_performance_transmissions.html
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"Chevy is currently recording 0-to-60-mph sprints of about 6.1 sec or so, but the goal is to break the six-second barrier. Give us a car, guys. We'll get you the 5.9-sec run you're after. Top speed, by the way, is an electronically limited 155 mph. Yes, with the V-6. Both transmissions are superb, the automatic responding quickly to shift-button commands and the manual smooth and slick (pedals are well-placed for heel-and-toe downshifts)."

Best regardSS,

Elie

I drove both the V8 and the V6. I drive a 98Z everyday and to me it felt just like my Z, but lighter. I would be very happy with the V6, but I (we:think:) will be getting a V8 for the bad ass factor.

White should be available around July 09, last we heard.

The late 4th Gen V6s with the 3.8L were governed at 118mph as they had T rated Goodyear Eagle GA's.

car and driver new issue that i got yesterday. it compares the z51 to the z06 to the zr1

Go to the section below the lounge and check out the motortrend online article. It goes an even 200.

I drove both the V8 and the V6. I drive a 98Z everyday and to me it felt just like my Z, but lighter.

Are you referring to the V6?

Go to the section below the lounge and check out the motortrend online article. It goes an even 200.
the z51 was like 185, the z06 was 200 and the zr1 was 205 i believe. give or take a mph but thats what i remember it saying.

Are you referring to the V6?

Yes, I think she is referring to the V6, and I concur. My seat of the pants meter says the 5th Gen V6 felt at least as zippy (yeah, it's a technical term) as the '98 Z28 I drive daily. The 5th Gen felt really comfortable and intuitive to drive, and it's not like the 4th Gen at all. I didn't have to get in and familiarize myself with the 5th Gen much. I just hopped in, started it up and took off. It wasn't awkward like it normally feels when you get into a car you aren't used to driving. I can't wait until ours gets built.