Price Poll!

Ok so the prices are finally out, and i noticed some people like myself comparing and complaining already. Some of you didn't seem too bothered about the prices, so lets see where this poll takes us as far as the CZ28 community is concerned.

Wait for it......

I'm ok with it.
My 89 Turbo Trans AM was a 31k in 89. A grand or two more for a Camaro 20 years later is a bargain.

I'm ok with it.
My 89 Turbo Trans AM was a 31k in 89. A grand or two more for a Camaro 20 years later is a bargain.
You paid too much in 89.

It's a little expensive, but I'm still gonna buy it.

It's fine with me. I figured the SS would start between 33 and 35.

You paid too much in 89.
A 1989 TTA's MSRP was $31,223.00 and it had 300HP, 20 years later you can get a 300HP V6 with better gas milage for about 10k less.
I don't see how people have any room to bitch.
I guees if it's too much people can go enjoy thier Camry:rolleyes:
1989 TTA window sticker (http://usedpc.net/TTA_WS/DSC04054.JPG)

Just did a build comparison of the 2SS with the SRT8. Not even close to comparing.

Horsepower: SRT8 426, Camaro 422
Color options: SRT8=4(Silver, Black, Red Orange) Camaro=6 Same as, but add Red Jewel and Yellow
Interior options: SRT8=1 Slate Gray, Camaro =4, black, gray, beige and custom
Other options:
Tranny: SRT8 - Auto Standard, manual $695, Camaro - Manual Standard, Auto $995(My experience with chevy is that they deduct from an auto standard car to put in a manual)
Performance tires: $100, Standard on 2SS
Sunroof: SRT8 $950, Camaro $900
Premium sound: SRT8: $1045, Standard on 2SS
Want GPS add $1240 on the SRT8, not available on the 2SS

In total, all things being comparitivley equal, the SRT8 offers less choices for making a unique car and has nothing glaringly better than the camaro on any level.

The 2SS/RS car I built and ordered came in at $36,070 and is a fully loaded 2SS with all I wanted, and extra cost Paint. The same SRT8 sells for $45,535.

To me that equates to about $9465 for 4 additional horsepower and less options.
Haven't comapred it to the Mustang yet, but I wll leave it to others if they are interested.

The 2SS/RS Camaro is a real value compared the the SRT8 Challenger.

I do think the same will hold true across all base models, but don't have the time to compare each one.

Have a great day!

I'm ok with the pricing. I know we'll get raped in Canada on the pricing so I will be buying from the U.S.

I think GM has really trumped the competition with this car. It's astounding when you go back through some of the old posts about wishes/hopes/wants for the features on the new Camaro, and so many of those things have been included.

That said, I think GM outclassed itself with the V6 cars. Six years ago in 2002...(according to MSN Autos)

A base V6 started at $18,415
base Z28 at $22,830.

I won't say that the '10 base LS doesn't command a $4k price increase--especially since it has 100hp more than its predecessor, and a lot more standard equipment and safety features. But, I think there's a hole in the market now that's loosely covered by the FWD Cobalt SS and...more similar to the Camaro...the V6 Mustang.

Especially in the base model, I don't think people are most receptive to features like an IRS suspension, a 5-speed vs 6-speed automatic, etc. I just hope GM didn't drop the bottom out of the Camaro's success by charging what feels like a "premium" to get a V6 car with some goodies.

I think GM has really trumped the competition with this car. It's astounding when you go back through some of the old posts about wishes/hopes/wants for the features on the new Camaro, and so many of those things have been included.

That said, I think GM outclassed itself with the V6 cars. Six years ago in 2002...(according to MSN Autos)

A base V6 started at $18,415
base Z28 at $22,830.

I won't say that the '10 base LS doesn't command a $4k price increase--especially since it has 100hp more than its predecessor, and a lot more standard equipment and safety features. But, I think there's a hole in the market now that's loosely covered by the FWD Cobalt SS and...more similar to the Camaro...the V6 Mustang.

Especially in the base model, I don't think people are most receptive to features like an IRS suspension, a 5-speed vs 6-speed automatic, etc. I just hope GM didn't drop the bottom out of the Camaro's success by charging what feels like a "premium" to get a V6 car with some goodies.

Very good points -- I did a price comparison on the 2002 SS versus the 2010 SS -- more to come once I get caught up in the office - -then I went and did a price comparison on a 2002 V6 and a 2002 Z28 versus a 2010 LS and LT -- the number of items that are standard on the new car is lengthy -- and then there are the things that weren't even available back then -- such as stability control and remote start and etc............the bottom line is that it isn't a $4000 price increase!........

--and you haven't even driven it yet -- (which I'm dying to have you drive them!)

Im ok with the pricing info. I just hope my credit is on par, not sure though. For those that are complaining about 2-3000, over what you thought the price should be.... if the extra 20.00 a month in the payment is the sole reason you will no longer buy a new Camaro then you should definitely wait untill you can put a little more down on the principal.

--and you haven't even driven it yet -- (which I'm dying to have you drive them!)

Well, if you want to twist my arm....you need my address to ship the car to? :cool:

There should have been an option for, "Pricing was a little higher then expected and I'm not all that happy about it, but this is a Camaro. I *will* own it."

There should have been an option for, "Pricing was a little higher for the SS then expected and I'm not all that happy about it, but this is a Camaro. I *will* own it when I can purchase one below msrp."

- I fixed it for you :D

The price of the SS is alittle higher than I had expected. It wouldn't stop me from buying one though, if that's what I wanted.

One thing though, how does this fit in with Chevy's stated mission statement that the SS sub-brand represents "attainable performance"?

:cry::cry:

I "think" the current price level is on par whith what we are getting!

Lots of items that are either mandated by our Govt. or the buying public in general.

My 10 SS had a sticker of $30555.00 fairly loaded ( compare to 2SS).

My new car will be a 1SS ( no sunroom) with maybe the RS option in Cyber Gray.

Many are bitchin, but I think we have to be real on pricing, did'nt expect a $25K SS???

This is purley my opinion, feel free to disagree:p

Gary

- I fixed it for you :D

I think that's the point of MSRP -- It's a "suggested" retail price as the basis for bargaining, just as folks used to bargain for horses. The American car buying public has become spoiled with huge rebates, so a lot of people are expecting to pay a few thousand less than MSRP. With the Camaro, I doubt that will be the case for a new performance car platform that the public has been clamoring about for...years!

The price of the SS is alittle higher than I had expected. It wouldn't stop me from buying one though, if that's what I wanted.

One thing though, how does this fit in with Chevy's stated mission statement that the SS sub-brand represents "attainable performance"?

For that size and configuration of vehicle, it still costs less than a BMW 335i. If you want a cheaper SS with "attainable performance," I'd direct you to the Cobalt SS which has the 260hp 2.0L Turbo toaster.

If people feel this car is over priced they need to get their heads out of their . . . well you know where . . . .

MSRP, is very reasonable . . . On my 2002 SS, The MSRP with options and destination was $31,040 . . . put 8 years inflation . . (putting it into perspective)

An assumed 4% annually, the MSRP would be $42,480 . . . .

Low ball and assume 3% annually, MSRP comes in at $39,702 . . .

The features available on the 2010 Camaro "BASE" price can't even be compared to an old Camaro, let alone even to the current Rustang and Challenger

Of if pricing was cheaper I would be an happy camper but these prices isn't too shabby. I haven't still decided if I want the V8 or the V6 that's why I haven't ordered it yet.

For that size and configuration of vehicle, it still costs less than a BMW 335i. If you want a cheaper SS with "attainable performance," I'd direct you to the Cobalt SS which has the 260hp 2.0L Turbo toaster.

My issues with the Camaro have nothing to do with price.

Personally, I'm not really looking for a "cheaper SS". Just commenting on the dichotomy of the SS sub-brand's mission statement and the near $40K price tag a fully loaded Camaro SS will command.

I think if most people's salaries kept pace with inflation, more people wouldn't have a problem with the pricing. But when inflation far outstripped people's increases, they said, "whoa, enough is enough". And couple that with a VERY shaky economy. It's harder & harder to justify a car like Camaro.

I think GM should have done more homework on this issue and looked at wages of intended buyers (& how they have stagnated) to determine pricing instead of looking at where the 4th gen ended. GM has basically told a LOT of people, "it's too bad you can't buy our car, but we're not changing the price". They've alianated a lot of people with this pricing.

There seems to be some incentive money (or Wagoners bonus) built into MSRP for the new Camaro. When the plant starts cranking them out and supply begins to exceed demand, hopefully the plant wont be idled and the discounts will begin.

My issues with the Camaro have nothing to do with price.

Personally, I'm not really looking for a "cheaper SS". Just commenting on the dichotomy of the SS sub-brand's mission statement and the near $40K price tag a fully loaded Camaro SS will command.

...But you can't find a new car with similar performance for any amount cheaper, can you?

Looking at other SS models like the Impala SS-- what other car in that price range has a 300+hp V8? And what other cars in the Cobalt SS price range have 260hp? So, I guess I don't see the "dichotomy" :)

I think the pricing is competitive for what the car offers and in terms of its competition.

A no-option 1SS at GMS pricing, IMHO, will be a very good deal.

i'm ok with the pricing.. it's very competitive..

that said.. there's no way i can afford a new one in the foreseeable future.. but i couldn't afford any new car really...

...But you can't find a new car with similar performance for any amount cheaper, can you?

You mean like the $4200 cheaper Mustang GT?

Looking at other SS models like the Impala SS-- what other car in that price range has a 300+hp V8? And what other cars in the Cobalt SS price range have 260hp? So, I guess I don't see the "dichotomy" :)

I think the pricing is competitive for what the car offers and in terms of its competition.

You're actually making my point by using the Cobalt SS as an example. I think that car is excellent BTW - and a great performance car, easily attainable by most new car buyers.

I have no arguments with the Camaro SS's price range. If it were a car I was interested in, it's higher than expected price wouldn't sway me from buying it. But alot of people had solid expectations that this car would come in around or slightly higher than the Mustang GT (which is $26,775). It didn't.

Personally, I've been a proponent of Camaro starting to move slightly upscale from where it has been - as long as it remains a good value.

But in this case, is this price premium because:

1) Chevy wants to disuade buyers from buying a V8?
2) Camaro has to singlehandedly support the Oshawa Zeta line?
3) Chevy knows that initial demand for the V8 will be strong and wants to cash in?
4) A combo of all of the above?

A lot of people are gonna be forced into a V6...

If i get a new car it'll be a C6...the extra 10k is worth it in the weight department alone!

A lot of people are gonna be forced into a V6...

If i get a new car it'll be a C6...the extra 10k is worth it in the weight department alone!

I agree but one you wont get the cool features that are on the new Camaro. And the Corvette is a totally different animal all together, I would say drive both when you get the chance maybe it might change your mind. And I personally wouldnt pass the new camaro up for nothing less then a C6 Z06 :cool:

Not everyone is looking for maximum horsepower when shopping for a new car. There is a lot to choose from when you get to $35,000.

Not everyone is looking for maximum horsepower when shopping for a new car. There is a lot to choose from when you get to $35,000.


There sure is.

It's so curious to me that GM so painstakingly and obsessively benchmarked Mustang, and then prices Camaro SS with the BMW 1 and 3 series, Audi TT and G37 coupe. Hell, fully optioned, a Camaro SS will be in Audi A5 territory. All that's fine - if the Camaro SS can compete in that league. Frankly though, I can't imagine many people cross-shopping a loaded SS with an A5.

A 1989 TTA's MSRP was $31,223.00 and it had 300HP

And that's $54,771.50 in 2008 dollars!

Still, the TTA was a performance wonder for its day.

I live in San Jose, Ca. and also was VERY interested in the 2002 SS Camaro at the time, but I clearly remember pricing for a 'base' SS with leather and standard equipment stickered in my area for $37,000 on average, rocketing to $41,000 with Anniversary stripes and wheels pkg!

Now lets compare available power/spec figures:

2010 SS


HP - 422
TQ - 408
1/4 mile - low 13/high 12(est.)
0-60 - 4.6 sec (GM)
60-0 - 109 ft.(est based on GXP)
Lat. G - >.92(above GT500KR)
Curb lb. - 3860
IRS
Styled after 67/69 Camaro
Interior - Modern Chic


2002 SS

HP - 325
TQ - 350
1/4 mile - 13.5@101.9
0-60 - 5.1 sec
60-0 - 120 ft.
Lat. G - .87
Curb lb. -3730
Live Axle
Styled after /StingRay3 (http://www.carstyling.ru/resources/concept/91chevrolet_corvette_stingray-3_01.jpg) concept cars
Interior - Plastic Rattlebox


For it's time the 2002 SS Camaro was a great car and a lot of fun, but where I lived it was quite expensive and I never really dug the styling. See I own a 67 Camaro with over 400HP and whenever I came up against an 02 SS I thrashed it. The Z06 was much more competitive, though walked away from me with less weight and more gears, obviously.

So being a Gen 1 owner I naturally adore the 2010 SS and it's cost/power/option ratio is simply unbeatable! If those track numbers I derived from numerous Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Automobile Mag articles hold true then for the roughly $80,000 price of a fully loaded Shelby GT500KR, which I suspect the SS could at least match in most respects if not outperform in others, you could get 2 fully optioned 2010 SS Camaro's plus 2 complete extra sets of wheels/tires for them for that ridiculous amount!