Chrysler Unveils Dodge EV, A Tesla-Like All-Electric Sports Car

robvas
09-23-2008, 10:10 AM
Today on CNBC, Chrysler CEO Bob Nardelli revealed a Tesla-like all-electric performance sports car called the Dodge ev along with three other vehicles operating either partially or entirely on an electric powertrain. The four vehicles are Chrysler's ENVI electric car program, and include an extended-electric Chrysler minivan, a new "gated community" electric called "the peapod" and a Jeep Wrangler four-door. The ev, the first of the four unveiled, not only operates entirely on plug-in power like the Tesla Roadster and appears to have similar performance numbers, also has some striking visual similarities with the Tesla. And why shouldn't it? While the Tesla's built on the Lotus Elise, the Dodge ev appears to be based on the Lotus Europa. We'll have more shortly as soon as Chrysler actually, you know, releases some information on this, but for the moment what we know is below the jump.

I was thinking they were going to come out with a Volt-ish car

Eric77TA
09-23-2008, 10:46 AM
I'd assume that the extended range minivan will feature Volt-like technology.

The sports car is disappointing, though. I mean, a Tesla using similar construction is 100k. I don't see how a Lotus based Dodge could be production intent unless they plan on using it to replace the Viper. And I'm not sure how many are ready to jump right from V10 to pure electric power.

Z28x
09-23-2008, 10:55 AM
Pretty cool. Imagine if they replaced the V10 with a new electric Viper. That would be a pretty bold move.

jg95z28
09-23-2008, 11:50 AM
http://jalopnik.com/5053495/chrysler-unveils-dodge-ev-a-tesla+like-all+electric-sports-car

Why do the American manufacturers have to borrow from Lotus? :p

mastrdrver
09-23-2008, 05:21 PM
Here is the video link to when CNBC talked to Chrysler today about the vehicles.

CNBC video (http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=864784364&play=1)

Caps94ZODG
09-23-2008, 06:18 PM
wow..thats odd..so dodge is using an electric car like the telsa thats based on the Lotus car thats gas??? How original..
3 car companies using the same body..

Evilfrog
09-23-2008, 07:28 PM
I was thinking they were going to come out with a Volt-ish car

standard wall outlet and can go 40 miles (65 kilometers) on battery power alone, but then a small gasoline engine kicks in to recharge the batteries. Chrysler said its vehicles will be able to travel up to 400 miles (640 kilometers) on 8 gallons (30 liters) of gas

Sounds voltish to me.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/09/23/chrysler.electric.car.ap/index.html

5thgen69camaro
09-23-2008, 09:49 PM
http://jalopnik.com/5053495/chrysler-unveils-dodge-ev-a-tesla+like-all+electric-sports-car

Why do the American manufacturers have to borrow from Lotus? :p

I dont know but that thing looks cool! Id drive that...

Eric Bryant
09-23-2008, 11:19 PM
Hmm, let's see... a projected range of 150-200 miles and an estimated 5 miles per usable kilowatt-hour (kWh) means that we'll need somewhere around 30-40 "usable" kWh from the pack, which means that the pack will need to have an initial capacity of 60-80 kWh. At roughly $1000/kWh for an automotive-grade pack (laptop bare cells are $300/kWh), that's one damn expensive pack :eek:

Evilfrog
09-24-2008, 10:14 AM
Hmm, let's see... a projected range of 150-200 miles and an estimated 5 miles per usable kilowatt-hour (kWh) means that we'll need somewhere around 30-40 "usable" kWh from the pack, which means that the pack will need to have an initial capacity of 60-80 kWh. At roughly $1000/kWh for an automotive-grade pack (laptop bare cells are $300/kWh), that's one damn expensive pack :eek:

They might bring it in around the Telsa price snice it's its closest competition. Also, they said they would have 1 of the cars for sell but 2010. I'll put money on it being the Jeep. All eletric AWD with individual motors for each wheel sounds great for a jeep. Plus, it will be the only SUV plugin hibyrd that I can think of.

Z28x
09-24-2008, 10:55 AM
Hmm, let's see... a projected range of 150-200 miles and an estimated 5 miles per usable kilowatt-hour (kWh) means that we'll need somewhere around 30-40 "usable" kWh from the pack, which means that the pack will need to have an initial capacity of 60-80 kWh. At roughly $1000/kWh for an automotive-grade pack (laptop bare cells are $300/kWh), that's one damn expensive pack :eek:

check out the other EV's http://jalopnik.com/5053788/how-do-the-chrysler-hybrids-match-the-volts-ev-range

27KWh in the Jeep, so we would be looking at a $65,000+ Wrangler

Eric Bryant
09-24-2008, 01:31 PM
check out the other EV's http://jalopnik.com/5053788/how-do-the-chrysler-hybrids-match-the-volts-ev-range

27KWh in the Jeep, so we would be looking at a $65,000+ Wrangler

Also interesting - the motor will be sized at about 200 kW. A permanent-magnet BLDC motor is perhaps $50/kW. Yikes.

I also hope that pack has fun feeding a 200 kW motor, as this creates a discharge rate of about 7C.

jg95z28
09-24-2008, 01:32 PM
I'm wondering what happens to Tesla if Chrysler can bring their sportscar EV to the plate with similar performance and a lower MSRP. :think:

Evilfrog
09-24-2008, 01:47 PM
I'm wondering what happens to Tesla if Chrysler can bring their sportscar EV to the plate with similar performance and a lower MSRP. :think:

Unlike Chrysler, Telsa has money. Though if Crysler can get a piece of that $25 billion from the Goverment and Telsa can't...

Well that kinda evens it out.

jg95z28
09-24-2008, 02:20 PM
Unlike Chrysler, Telsa has money. Though if Crysler can get a piece of that $25 billion from the Goverment and Telsa can't...

Well that kinda evens it out.Chrysler has the dealer network that Tesla lacks, and empty manufacturing facilities that were once building trucks. :rolleyes:

I'm less than a one hour drive from Tesla's headquarters. Yet If I bought a Tesla roadster, I'd have to take it to Palo Alto to service it. (About 1h:15m.) Meanwhile, there are no less than four Dodge dealers within 10 miles from my home.

Performance and price being equal, which do you think I'd be more likely to buy if I was in the market for a high performance EV sportscar? :think:

Eric Bryant
09-24-2008, 02:38 PM
Unlike Chrysler, Telsa has money.

Ah, but how much money does Telsa really have? Developing all the knowledge that goes into designing, manufacturing, and distributing a vehicle ain't cheap. My guess is that Elon Musk and his buddies are getting a quick and painful lesson.

Evilfrog
09-25-2008, 08:47 AM
Chrysler has the dealer network that Tesla lacks, and empty manufacturing facilities that were once building trucks. :rolleyes:

I'm less than a one hour drive from Tesla's headquarters. Yet If I bought a Tesla roadster, I'd have to take it to Palo Alto to service it. (About 1h:15m.) Meanwhile, there are no less than four Dodge dealers within 10 miles from my home.

Performance and price being equal, which do you think I'd be more likely to buy if I was in the market for a high performance EV sportscar? :think:

The dealership network is a big deal. Telsa right now will can not sell the car to people in the mid west. But Chrysler hasnt said when they will be able to sell the EV. It could be in 2012 or 2013. The Roadster is out now. A 4-5 year jump is a big thing. And Telsa could add more dealers in that time.

(all things equil. I would buy the chrysler today.)

Ah, but how much money does Telsa really have? Developing all the knowledge that goes into designing, manufacturing, and distributing a vehicle ain't cheap. My guess is that Elon Musk and his buddies are getting a quick and painful lesson.

Who knows. But paypal is a much healthier company which is making money. Plus he has the rocket contract with Nasa. However; that $25 billion just passed so the money issue could be a moot point anyway.