ELMATONSS 09-09-2008, 11:14 AM I dont know if you guys have seen these pictured of the 2010 Mustang, but it just looks...sick, and not in a good way. It just makes me happy to know the Camaro will kill this horse in the looks department :D but we still dont know what is under the hood so it might be a problem :think:
I havent posted pictures here and i cant seem to get it right so the best i can do is post the link to the pics:
http://jalopnik.com/5047064/2010-ford-mustang-in-the-nude
Gold_Rush 09-09-2008, 11:40 AM It actually looks very promising imo...even with that nasty camo paint and in preproduction form. Finished car should look good. I like the renderings.
Plague 09-09-2008, 11:50 AM To me, it looks like a gateway box mated with a 2005 Mustang.
I only notice very minor differences from the 2005+ mustangs.
boomer78 09-09-2008, 12:11 PM There's a lot actually.
Just that it stays with the current design structure as the 05-09s.
- hips
- powerdome hood
- new C scoop
- new front end
- new rear is WAY more sculpted than the current car
- interior is completely new but stays with the same style layout
FactoryZ 09-09-2008, 12:35 PM looks like they put on some new bumpers...
BIG B7887 09-09-2008, 12:45 PM ...so who stole the headlight/drectional design, Mustang or Camaro??
Z28Wilson 09-09-2008, 12:50 PM Looks like a C5 to C6 evolution to me. Very similar design themes in a tighter package. Looks ok. This one wasn't going to blow people away like the '05 Mustang or new Camaro did because this isn't really a clean-sheet redesign.
Silverado C-10 09-09-2008, 12:51 PM Looks good to me! It *appears* as if they've pulled the nose and tail in a couple inches each?
boomer78 09-09-2008, 01:18 PM Hard to really see the shape of the front end though with the colour of the car being black.
This cars design was locked even before the Camaro concept was shown to the public
Plague 09-09-2008, 03:36 PM There's a lot actually.
Just that it stays with the current design structure as the 05-09s.
- hips
- powerdome hood
- new C scoop
- new front end
- new rear is WAY more sculpted than the current car
- interior is completely new but stays with the same style layout
Maybe I am too distracted by the spots. Guess it worked on me.
Rising Phoenix 09-09-2008, 05:13 PM Looks nice, I like it. :) They didn't completely screw over the current models looks, which is a very good thing. I'm glad it doesn't look anything like that Giugiani (SP?) concept from a year or so ago. :no:
99SilverSS 09-09-2008, 05:44 PM That's the problem with a retro theme'd design is where to go next? I'm not a big fan of making changes for the sake of change but the 2005 design will need to be freshened up and Ford isn't in the position for a full redesign yet.
Mustang_H8R 09-09-2008, 09:20 PM To the people that like it: Looks can be decieving, this thing won't be as powerful as what most people think. I'm not so sure about its "400hp 5.0L v8." odd for a car like the mustang to jump 100 hp when being normally aspirated when ford is known for S/C'ing mustangs. Personally I don't really like the body style, especially the back. As for the whole body, it looks like a modern day e-type with the inside being stretched out a whole bunch.
boomer78 09-09-2008, 10:04 PM To the people that like it: Looks can be decieving, this thing won't be as powerful as what most people think. I'm not so sure about its "400hp 5.0L v8." odd for a car like the mustang to jump 100 hp when being normally aspirated when ford is known for S/C'ing mustangs. Personally I don't really like the body style, especially the back. As for the whole body, it looks like a modern day e-type with the inside being stretched out a whole bunch.
Maybe not the 4.6 in 2010,
but the 2011 will have the 5.0, and yes... 400+hp
Even if they rate it slightly lower ;)
Just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean it won't happen.;)
And don't worry, the S/C isn't going anywhere in the short term.
Long term...well... yeah.. it may go away.
Ray86IROC 09-09-2008, 11:39 PM If the renderings are accurate that is a pretty decent improvement IMO. Not like I'll ever buy a Mustang most likely but that looks pretty good. Hopefully it does well for Ford.
Mustang_H8R 09-10-2008, 12:13 AM Maybe not the 4.6 in 2010,
but the 2011 will have the 5.0, and yes... 400+hp
Even if they rate it slightly lower ;)
Just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean it won't happen.;)
And don't worry, the S/C isn't going anywhere in the short term.
Long term...well... yeah.. it may go away.
Well as for the weight issue going against the camaro, it won't be a problem because the mustang will be around the same weight due to probably having a bigger engine. Not only that, chevy might lower the weight for the SS to about 3800-3750, somewhere around there.
94LightningGal 09-10-2008, 03:00 AM Actually, the 2010 Mustang is supposed to be slightly lighter than the current car.
So, the Camaro "might" get lighter than the specs that have already been released??? However, the Mustang will "probably" get heavier. It is supposed to gain 200lbs with a displacement increase from 4.6 to 5.0.
Ok................ whatever. Your login says it all.
boomer78 09-10-2008, 03:07 AM Well as for the weight issue going against the camaro, it won't be a problem because the mustang will be around the same weight due to probably having a bigger engine. Not only that, chevy might lower the weight for the SS to about 3800-3750, somewhere around there.
You're obviously basing this on pure speculation.
The mustang WILL weigh less than the comparing Camaro.
GTOJack 09-10-2008, 10:48 AM Some people dream in their sleep and when they wake up they figure if they dreampt it, it must be true. Kids.
ZZtop 09-10-2008, 11:28 AM Maybe not the 4.6 in 2010,
but the 2011 will have the 5.0, and yes... 400+hp
Even if they rate it slightly lower ;)
Those days are long over. The Mustang will make the power it is rated at with the SAE system.
How long is this refresh supposed to last? I thought 2011 with the 5.0L was going to be a complete redesign? One year seems silly to me though, so maybe things have changed.
Gold_Rush 09-10-2008, 01:55 PM A few images/teasers
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2010-ford-mustang-teased/1029125/
guionM 09-10-2008, 02:01 PM That's the problem with a retro theme'd design is where to go next? I'm not a big fan of making changes for the sake of change but the 2005 design will need to be freshened up and Ford isn't in the position for a full redesign yet.
Actually, they are.
Ford will be refreshing or restyling all cars on 2 to 3 year cycles from now on.
Don't expect any completely new RWD cars from any US automakers in the forseeable future. Any future RWD automobiles will be based on existing models either modified or in it's entirety.
To the people that like it: Looks can be decieving, this thing won't be as powerful as what most people think. I'm not so sure about its "400hp 5.0L v8." odd for a car like the mustang to jump 100 hp when being normally aspirated when ford is known for S/C'ing mustangs. Personally I don't really like the body style, especially the back. As for the whole body, it looks like a modern day e-type with the inside being stretched out a whole bunch.
With a screen name of "Mustang H8R", I wouldn't expect you to accept any reality of Mustang power increases. You also make the same mistake that many Ford haters make: they fail to realize that the Mustang's 4.6 engine is about 100 cubic inches smaller than GM's 6.0 & 6.2 V8s. Mustang's 4.6/281ci V8 is smaller than even GM's 5.3/328ci LS4, yet puts out the same 300 horsepower and gives up a mere 3 ft/lbs of torque (and just 5 to the 350ci LT1). The modular engine is also clearly capable of more.
Ford's 5.0 cammer (just 305 cubic inches) was putting out 425-430 horsepower when it came out in 2005. To think that engine won't put out close to that much power in stock form after 4-5 years of racing improvements and regular powerplant evolution is naive.
Don't confuse the Ford Motor Company of 2008 with the Ford Motor Company of 1998. It's closer to the Ford Motor company of the early 1980s. Team Mustang is being given the tools it needs to be highly competitive with Camaro. The Mustang is already lighter than Camaro. It's also likely to wind up cheaper than Camaro.
A 3500 pound car with 400 horsepower versus a 3800 pound car with 422 makes for an intresting matchup. Add in the likely price differences, and I see the Camaro vs Mustang competition of the 1980s returning.... quite possibly with the same results. ;)
ProudPony 09-10-2008, 02:02 PM Personally I don't really like the body style, especially the back.
Given your username... I'm utterly amazed you don't like it. :lol:
guionM 09-10-2008, 02:40 PM Those days are long over. The Mustang will make the power it is rated at with the SAE system..
Automakers are still free to advertize the output of their engines at whatever number they want... as long as the engine makes at least that amount of horsepower.
The Society for Automotive Engineers revised the standards (emphasis on the word "standards") for measuring back in 2003. The goal was to address those manufacturers whose power output claims were larger than the actual output the engines were producing, and not manufacturers who were underrating their engines. Corvette's LS6 engines were within a few horsepower of actual claimed. What grabbed headlines was the number of imported cars from Japan that were making far less than what they advertized.... these were the guys who had to revise their ratings.
Some notable examples of cars that were putting out far more horsepower than claimed:
Ford GT's advertized 500, but was putting out roughly 550. SRT4 Neons were putting out significantly over it's advertized 220. the last edition Mustang Mach 1's 305 horsepower and 320 ft/lbs of torque was completely bogus (it put out closer to 335 horsepower and 360 ft/lbs of torque). By the time you get to Ford SVT's Cobra and Lightning advertized horsepower, you may as well make up the numbers yourself.
Off the top of my head, currently the 300 horse Mustang GT is a bit underrated as is the 362 horse Pontiac G8 GT. The Cadillac XLRv is still advertized at 443 horsepower... it actually makes the same 469 as it does in the STSv. It was initially advertized as making 440 horsepower.
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