Finally...GM Releases Official Camaro SS Image

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f13/finally-gm-releases-official-camaro-ss-image-68732/

http://media.gm.com/us/chevrolet/en/photos/f_cars/chevrolet.html

guess I was hoping for something a little more flashy

it seems like they gave it an emblem, bumper slit, and the regular camaro wheel upgrade

I hope that there is more to it than that

Looks like the same silver SS but non-RS 5th gen we've seen in the photoshoot from this board, the pic with Fergie and what will be used in "My Own Worst Enemy."

Definitely not a flattering image. That color doesn't help either.

What happenned to all the photoshop wizards???? This is image is a perfect canvas. How about a cyber gray version with some TT2's?????

to sum it up PATHETIC (what the hell are they thinking?)...i aint been in a chevy dealership since 1992 and that trend is intact hence forth....

to sum it up PATHETIC (what the hell are they thinking?)...i aint been in a chevy dealership since 1992 and that trend is intact hence forth....Then why are you here? :p

Way too plain and way too much like the V6, Z28 anyone? This is almost the same mistake they made with the 4th Gen.

Well, there are a few subtle differences like they pointed out on GMI... There's an extra body line just below the side marker light and the front lip is more pronounced...

I dont think the silver color looks good on this car or the concept. I think the RS lights would look soo much better on the SS just judging by the V6 pics. I like the SS alot. I think it would look much better in black with the RS headlights and in Impereal Blue or Black. Id have to see them in person. Ive always liked blue on cool cars.

EDITED because I just couldnt help throwing the concept in for comparison with that angle...

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I can honestly say that this picture looks awesome. I had my doubts but they are all but washed away. I didn't think it was possible but from this angle I actually think the productions car looks better than the concept. Did they make the lower grill a little smaller or is that the angle? I have to agree that the car would look much better in black with RS trim.

GM is making a big mistake by not differentiating the 6 and the 8. Now most of us being Camaro enthusiasts aren't all into the flash but the avg Joe out there wan't people to know he has something special and little dinky badges aren't gonna make it. GM needs to make the SS more pronounced so you don't drive up behind the guy and wonder if it's a V6 or V8. The SS should be in the center of the grill and larger, plus more different body panels or something.

GM is making a big mistake by not differentiating the 6 and the 8. Now most of us being Camaro enthusiasts aren't all into the flash but the avg Joe out there wan't people to know he has something special and little dinky badges aren't gonna make it. GM needs to make the SS more pronounced so you don't drive up behind the guy and wonder if it's a V6 or V8. The SS should be in the center of the grill and larger, plus more different body panels or something.100% disagree. If the "average Joe" wants flashy badges and stripes, then either the "average Joe" is going to accessorize his Camaro, or he isn't going to buy one.

I like the minute, yet subtle differences. Ever hear of the term "sleeper"? :p

100% disagree. If the "average Joe" wants flashy badges and stripes, then either the "average Joe" is going to accessorize his Camaro, or he isn't going to buy one.

I like the minute, yet subtle differences. Ever hear of the term "sleeper"? :pYeah I think I know what the term sleeper is, look at my username. I wasn't talking about me or the Camaro guy on this board, i was talking about the avg idiot out there that's gonna spend the coin to be seen in an SS and people are gonna be asking him all the time if it is a V6.

Too plain?!?!??? WTF are you guys smoking, it looks just like the concept. Cobalt SS is plain, Camaro SS is not.

GM is making a big mistake by not differentiating the 6 and the 8. Now most of us being Camaro enthusiasts aren't all into the flash but the avg Joe out there wan't people to know he has something special and little dinky badges aren't gonna make it. GM needs to make the SS more pronounced so you don't drive up behind the guy and wonder if it's a V6 or V8. The SS should be in the center of the grill and larger, plus more different body panels or something.

We haven't even seen the base V6 Camaro yet, only the RS package which is available on both the V6 and V8.

Sounds like you care more about show than go. Wait for the SEMA Camaros.

Too plain?!?!??? WTF are you guys smoking, it looks just like the concept. Cobalt SS is plain, Camaro SS is not.



We haven't even seen the base V6 Camaro yet, only the RS package which is available on both the V6 and V8.

Sounds like you care more about show than go. Wait for the SEMA Camaros.
Yeah you really know me! I guess I shouldn't have bought my 02 stripper 1SC Z28 since I care about flash.

GM is making a big mistake by not differentiating the 6 and the 8. Now most of us being Camaro enthusiasts aren't all into the flash but the avg Joe out there wan't people to know he has something special and little dinky badges aren't gonna make it. GM needs to make the SS more pronounced so you don't drive up behind the guy and wonder if it's a V6 or V8. The SS should be in the center of the grill and larger, plus more different body panels or something.

Mustang guys have that problem, except it's the opposite. The Stang V6 and Stang GT both look like a cheap, POS 6 cylinder. However both the V6 and V8 Camaro look like a quality V8 muscle/sports car. :cool:

Too plain?!?!???
We haven't even seen the base V6 Camaro yet, only the RS package which is available on both the V6 and V8.

Wait for the SEMA Camaros.

There's probably a reason we haven't seen the base yet. I'd really be surprised if it isn't extremely plain in comparison.

Same thing as to SEMA...I expect to see quite a few options announced in addition to what GM has already stated will be available. I know they've said there will be ground effects, spoilers, and grill inserts available immediately from GM. We shouldn't have to wait much longer.

GM is making a big mistake by not differentiating the 6 and the 8. Now most of us being Camaro enthusiasts aren't all into the flash but the avg Joe out there wan't people to know he has something special and little dinky badges aren't gonna make it. GM needs to make the SS more pronounced so you don't drive up behind the guy and wonder if it's a V6 or V8. The SS should be in the center of the grill and larger, plus more different body panels or something.

I disagree. I think to REAL Camaro guys, they will know on sight the difference between the V6 and the SS. I do. The front facia is different, and the exhaust tips are bigger, not to mention the Brembo brakes. Now it would have been nice to save the cowl hood for the SS and give the V6 a lest aggressive hood, but that's all that I would change.
Look at the Charger. The ONLY difference is dual exhaust and a couple of Hemi badges and an R/T badge on the front and back to tell you if it is a V6 or a V8. Same withthe Mustang. the GT looks JUST like the V6 to the casual observer.

I disagree. I think to REAL Camaro guys, they will know on sight the difference between the V6 and the SS. I do.

Agreed, I will as well. The ones that don't are the same ones that can't tell the difference between a Mustang and a Camaro from several blocks away.

I can honestly say that this picture looks awesome. I had my doubts but they are all but washed away. I didn't think it was possible but from this angle I actually think the productions car looks better than the concept. Did they make the lower grill a little smaller or is that the angle? I have to agree that the car would look much better in black with RS trim.

It looks to me like its the same as the V6. The more I look the more I like the production. is this helpful?


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It looks to me like its the same as the V6. The more I look the more I like the production. is this helpful?


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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6LTsSMSpPUw/RzNKIWBhoKI/AAAAAAAAAV0/yMd2Xp2E3XU/s1600/salonauto063.jpgwow, the concept is noticeably much sharper looking!

wow, the concept is noticeably much sharper looking!


Yup....i really loved those knives for mirrors!
The production car just doesn't have that killer edge to it.

Yup....i really loved those knives for mirrors!

You wouldn't like the mirrors when driving, they were quite useless.

The production car just doesn't have that killer edge to it.

Some parts I like more myself, actually. I am still very happy that they came pretty close to the concept with the production version. Closer than most concept to production cars are.

You wouldn't like the mirrors when driving, they were quite useless.



Some parts I like more myself, actually. I am still very happy that they came pretty close to the concept with the production version. Closer than most concept to production cars are.

I'm with you Jason. I actually like the production version better. Mainly because I can HAVE ONE. ;)

You wouldn't like the mirrors when driving, they were quite useless.

The concept mirrors looked cool, but tiny mirrors suck from a functional standpoint. My GN has bigger mirrors than the Camaro concept, but they're still not big enough. From an aesthetic (and to some extent, aerodynamic) standpoint, I would rather not have them at all....

I mentioned the mirrors specifically yes, but i mean the car as a whole, it lost its C6ish sharpness....the production version is honestly a bit Stangy!

I don't honestly know how people can look at the Concept and V6 car and say that the car lost alot. They are almost the same car with slight differences, just look at the two 3/4 views with the red RS.

I like it, especially without the "ringworm" headlights. I used to not particularly care for silver cars, but in my old age, silver is classy.

It looks to me like its the same as the V6. The more I look the more I like the production. is this helpful?


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that second one from the top looks badass.

It looks to me like its the same as the V6. The more I look the more I like the production. is this helpful?


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This picture is really growing on me. I'm liking the new nose better and better the more I see it. It could use a different grille but I'm warming up to it.

As for the production vs. the concept besides the larger wheels and tires and lower roofline they are very much alike and that's a good thing.

that second one from the top looks badass.
That's the Concept. :)

GM has added more photos to this link:

http://media.gm.com/us/chevrolet/en/photos/f_cars/chevrolet.html

8 pics in all now.

If anyone is having a hard time viewing them, we have them here:

http://www.camaroz28.com/gallery/

Read through some of the comments here. A few thoughts:

1. If you haven't been in a Chevrolet showroom since 1992, then perhaps you shouldn't be here.

2. I like the production version of the Camaro waaaaaay better than the concept. The concept's mirrors are useless and look like they were stuck on with model glue, the headlights look better on the production version, and the body on the production version looks more detailed and actually more agressive.

3. Those of you insecure enough to actually need something that screams your superiority and manhood over lesser creatures just because you bought a V8, then there's going to be optional stripes and factory accessories available.

Those of us who remember the fun of 5.0 Mustang LXs (over the gaudy GTs), enjoy the annominity of base B4C Camaros (whose badgeless bodies look like base V6 Camaros save the rectangular pipes poking out the back), and enjoy subtle cues of the SS let alone secure enough in our own manhood that we don't need visuals to scream "look at me cause I bought a V8!!!" probably like the way the SS looks over the V6. :p

Scott,

One question... is it possible to know the name of the photographer? The lighting used on the photo is amazing. I love how it shows every single curve and detail on the car. If you can't say it in the board do you mind PM it to me? I gotta learn from the best.

The car is looking mighty good. :)

I also like the production version better than the concept. The only gripes I have, is that huge bowtie on the grille, and the mail slot that sucks on all counts. Is it too much to ask to put the SS there instead, circa '69? I would think that would go a long way towards satisfying those that want a more readily identifiable model. Well, everything is fixable, so long as there isn't a correspondingly large by huge black inset molded into the grille for the bowtie...which I assume there is.

Add the SS to the center, delete the controversial mailslot....WIN/WIN.

To each their own. Im very pleased!

Without a doubt the car looks amazing! Honestly guys, I think it may be the best concept to production transition I have seen. Even better than the Challenger because the production car looks even meaner than the concept.

I am going to do everything I can not to buy one of these because the wife says no more new cars for a while and we really need a truck if I do get another vehicle, but DAMN, why did GM have to make it soooo hard on me!

Scott,

One question... is it possible to know the name of the photographer? The lighting used on the photo is amazing. I love how it shows every single curve and detail on the car. If you can't say it in the board do you mind PM it to me? I gotta learn from the best.

The car is looking mighty good. :)

you should be asking for the PhotoShop touchup artist.

Those of us who remember the fun of 5.0 Mustang LXs (over the gaudy GTs), enjoy the annominity of base B4C Camaros (whose badgeless bodies look like base V6 Camaros save the rectangular pipes poking out the back), and enjoy subtle cues of the SS let alone secure enough in our own manhood that we don't need visuals to scream "look at me cause I bought a V8!!!" probably like the way the SS looks over the V6. :p

There was no annomity of the 5.0 LX cars unless you debadged them from the chrome 5.0 badges. I liked those cars. I always assumed they were 5.0's and would look for the badging and listen for the growl. If those werent there it wasnt a real Mustang or worth having to me. I really like the SS, particualarly how the Black one turned out. If it was indistinguishable from the V6, I would have been disapointed. I think theyve nailed it.... Well save for the Mules double horrizontal bars in the grille that I REALLY wish the SS would get.

I dont think the silver color looks good on this car or the concept. I think the RS lights would look soo much better on the SS just judging by the V6 pics. I like the SS alot. I think it would look much better in black with the RS headlights and in Impereal Blue or Black. Id have to see them in person. Ive always liked blue on cool cars.

EDITED because I just couldnt help throwing the concept in for comparison with that angle...

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Wow, the comparison pics in grey show just how similar the production version is to the concept, to me at least.

yep, the production models are very close to the concept. I think it is funny though how the V6's lower front grille was truer to the concept than the SS. Sure, the SS got the mailslot scoop, but the spoiler and smoother sides of the V6 fascia are almost right off the concept.

100% disagree. If the "average Joe" wants flashy badges and stripes, then either the "average Joe" is going to accessorize his Camaro, or he isn't going to buy one.

I like the minute, yet subtle differences. Ever hear of the term "sleeper"? :p

Kind of like my 04 Cavalier, I mean GTO? 4 years later I'm still not overly impressed with it's looks. It was a bang for the buck car at $7500 off sticker- that's all. I expected more with the Camaro. Not that I don't like what they've done; just saw, touched, (almost tasted) one in Buffalo. What an automobile. Period. Still doesn't mean I wouldn't like a little more differentiation between the V6 and V8 though...

If we keep complaining we'll probably make GM do something about it. They're just TOO similar and people shouldn't have to hit them with a bunch of dealer accessories to pretty them up.

There is NO reason for the V6 to have the cowl hood and the SS should have a bigger/better spoiler. Matter of fact, the V6 should have a flat hood and no spoiler or the small lip, SS should have a 4th Gen SS styled hood with maybe some new type of spoiler and optional 1st Gen SS stripes, the Z28 should have the cowl hood, bigger full length lip spoiler like 1st-3rd Gens, and optional Z28 stripes. They should all have different rims, grills, and taillights, etc. None of them should have the mailslot LOL.

There is NO reason for the V6 to have the cowl hood and the SS should have a bigger/better spoiler.
There is a reason... the concept had it. They want the Camaro, V6 or V8, to look like the concept. If they start 'dumbing down' the V6, it won't sell, people will feel like they have to buy the V8 to get the concept look. So they they try and make the SS look different with a different font fascia, and people complain. GM is stuck between a rock and a hard place. People want the V6 and SS to look different from each other, but both to look exactly like the concept.

If we keep complaining we'll probably make GM do something about it. They're just TOO similar and people shouldn't have to hit them with a bunch of dealer accessories to pretty them up.

There is NO reason for the V6 to have the cowl hood and the SS should have a bigger/better spoiler. Matter of fact, the V6 should have a flat hood and no spoiler or the small lip, SS should have a 4th Gen SS styled hood with maybe some new type of spoiler and optional 1st Gen SS stripes, the Z28 should have the cowl hood, bigger full length lip spoiler like 1st-3rd Gens, and optional Z28 stripes. They should all have different rims, grills, and taillights, etc. None of them should have the mailslot LOL.

are you listening to what your saying? The V6 should have a bland flat hood? The SS should trade the beautiful cowl for the crappy 4th gen scoupe? Neither one to get the beautiful cowl? are you high??

There is a reason... the concept had it. They want the Camaro, V6 or V8, to look like the concept. If they start 'dumbing down' the V6, it won't sell, people will feel like they have to buy the V8 to get the concept look. So they they try and make the SS look different with a different font fascia, and people complain. GM is stuck between a rock and a hard place. People want the V6 and SS to look different from each other, but both to look exactly like the concept.

It doesn't have to be exactly like the Concept, that's GM's dumbness at work, there were photoshops that came out afterwards that improved on the Concept that could have been looked at. (like PHR) Many liked the pre-pro grill, but instead they stuck the electric razor on both, which was usually the biggest complaint about the car's looks. Alot of people want their model to look different right from the factory, it's almost the same as the 4th Gen BS again. Just this time $YOU CAN BUY$ things to make it look different at the dealer. Also, I honestly think the bumpers should be switched if looking like the Concept is so important, the V8 buyers and people who are gonna be spending more should probably get it then.

are you listening to what your saying? The V6 should have a bland flat hood? The SS should trade the beautiful cowl for the crappy 4th gen scoupe? Neither one to get the beautiful cowl? are you high??

I see you didn't read the post all the way where I stated, and I quote, "the Z28 should have the cowl hood," like the 1st Gens. :think: The V6 should have a flat hood or hood with a different design, maybe some kind of vents or something. How was the LT1 SS hood not nice? I don't even like 4ths and I admit that was a nice feature. I'd like them to stay true to the models if possible with the stripes too, it only makes sense. The base car shouldn't have the same hood/spoiler/overall looks as the higher level models besides a slightly redesigned front bumper and tiny emblem. Having them both appear 95% the same looks as if no thought went into them. When the complaints about it start rolling in, they'll have to do something.

LOL! I'll make the mistake of getting involved in this heated topic.

I have already said that the fact that the 5th generation Camaro is absurdly heavier, gets poorer gas mileage, has a cheaper front suspension design, yet is far more expensive than the 4th generation cars is a BIG minus in my book.

I personally also feel like the car is also a caricature of the '69 rather than a well-though-out modern tribute like the new Mustang is to the '69. That might actually attract video-game-brain-damaged young buyers, though, so who am I to question GM...??? (hey, they've only failed the American people and their shareholders for the past thirty years....).

BUT, to make the SS "trim" nothing really but a tiny badge is really pathetic. You are all obviously first-generation Camaro fans... don't you remember side badges, hood bulges, SS wheels, pin-striping, fender-striping, style-trim, rear spoilers, etc....???

I see you didn't read the post all the way where I stated, and I quote, "the Z28 should have the cowl hood," like the 1st Gens. :think:

You do understand "Neither" as in "Neither one to get the beautiful cowl?" usually is used when comparing TWO things, such as I was with the SS and the V6?

The V6 should have a flat hood or hood with a different design, maybe some kind of vents or something. How was the LT1 SS hood not nice? I don't even like 4ths and I admit that was a nice feature. I'd like them to stay true to the models if possible with the stripes too, it only makes sense. The base car shouldn't have the same hood/spoiler/overall looks as the higher level models besides a slightly redesigned front bumper and tiny emblem. Having them both appear 95% the same looks as if no thought went into them. When the complaints about it start rolling in, they'll have to do something.

Would you buy the V6 with the boring flat hood or are you saying that the cars below the car you want should not be as nice as they could be so your car would stand out that much more? I dont like the 4th gens or the ram air hood on those cars. If you like that scoupe then do you also like the Transformers II Bumblee bee hood to put on the Z/28? That would differentiate it from the SS and V6. I dont like the T2 Bumble bee hood with the scoupe. I couldnt afford one so if the Z/28 guys want that hood thats cool. The cowl hood is the only hood that looks good to me and the only one I would consider. Its the difference between me trying to figure out how Im going to afford an SS or if I can with a cowl, or deal killer with anything else. No Aftermarket replacing body parts on a new car is not a consideration.

When the complaints about it start rolling in, they'll have to do something.

Who's complaints? Mine would be if the V6 or SS did not have a cowl, then inorder to buy a 5th gen that looked good at all to my eye you had to get the Z/28 or swap a hood on a brand new car. I think the SS is awesome as is and I wouldnt mind the V6 having the cowl if I could swing an SS. My only concern is the ram air. I wish it was functioning or not there. Personally I think they nailed it on the SS and V6.

BUT, to make the SS "trim" nothing really but a tiny badge is really pathetic. You are all obviously first-generation Camaro fans... don't you remember side badges, hood bulges, SS wheels, pin-striping, fender-striping, style-trim, rear spoilers, etc....???

Pin stripping? no.

Hood bulges? no There were cowl hoods. Those hoods were reserved for Z/28, SS, COPO, Yenko, or I believe any car you could order them on as an option. There were SS hoods with fake hood vents but to my eye the cowl was king.

Fender Striping? Spoliers?

I guess you mean the hocket sticks? again an option on just about everything. as with the spoliers which were the same across the board as I had on my 69 350 2bbl same as on a Z/28

Fender bulges?

Yes The 5th gen has those of the 1st 67 and 68 not 69 and 3rd gens


Now I do agree on badging. Id like to see the Z/28 get nice badging and now that you mention it, I think if GM decided to go with the 69 fender swooshes over the wheel wells for the Z/28 rather than the fender bulges of the V6 and SS, that would be a beautiful touch AND differentiation IMO :)

LOL! I'll make the mistake of getting involved in this heated topic.

I have already said that the fact that the 5th generation Camaro is absurdly heavier, gets poorer gas mileage, has a cheaper front suspension design, yet is far more expensive than the 4th generation cars is a BIG minus in my book.


Take a fourth gen. Add decent size brakes that don't warp rotors every few months, a rear-end that isn't made of glass, enough chassis bracing to even get in the ballpark with the chassis rigidity of Zeta, and whatever else you need to pass current crash standards. How "absurd" is the weight difference now?

My '01 Z28 stickered for $26,400 well-equipped. With inflation factored, even at the ridiculously low ~3% rate that the gubment tries to sell us, that is over $33k in 2009 dollars. How exactly is this car going to be "far more expensive" than the fourth gen? I personally haven't seen a window sticker yet and neither have you, but this car would have to be priced within a spit of the Corvette for you to be anything other than 100% dead wrong on that count. Every single thing I've read other than baseless message board speculation indicates this car will be an incredible value for the money.

I can see why you considered it a mistake to get involved.

You do understand "Neither" as in "Neither one to get the beautiful cowl?" usually is used when comparing TWO things, such as I was with the SS and the V6?

Um yeah, but you quoted me, and I wasn't talking about only those two. ;)

Would you buy the V6 with the boring flat hood or are you saying that the cars below the car you want should not be as nice as they could be so your car would stand out that much more? I dont like the 4th gens or the ram air hood on those cars. If you like that scoupe then do you also like the Transformers II Bumblee bee hood to put on the Z/28? That would differentiate it from the SS and V6. I dont like the T2 Bumble bee hood with the scoupe. I couldnt afford one so if the Z/28 guys want that hood thats cool. The cowl hood is the only hood that looks good to me and the only one I would consider. Its the difference between me trying to figure out how Im going to afford an SS or if I can with a cowl, or deal killer with anything else. No Aftermarket replacing body parts on a new car is not a consideration.

I'd be more inclined to buy the V8, but if it was the V6, sure I'd buy the flat hood. I have a 3rd Gen RS besides the Z, been there, done that. It doesn't have to be flat, a different design would be fine. I can't quite make out the hood on the new movie car, but I like this car all-around and IMO it should look like this: http://krang.popularhotrodding.com/freestuff/wallpaper/phr29_1024x768.jpg
:cool: Just everything about that is right and nice. Add Z28 stripes and regular headlights if it's not possible to keep the covers, and that could be a Z28. Only I think I'd rather see that hood on the SS and the cowl on the Z, but I'd probably be OK with that one too. Some people will have to customize the car though because you can't please everyone when you have an appearance option like the RS. Some might like and want only certain things from it, etc.

Who's complaints? Mine would be if the V6 or SS did not have a cowl, then inorder to buy a 5th gen that looked good at all to my eye you had to get the Z/28 or swap a hood on a brand new car. I think the SS is awesome as is and I wouldnt mind the V6 having the cowl if I could swing an SS. My only concern is the ram air. I wish it was functioning or not there. Personally I think they nailed it on the SS and V6.

There have been alot of complaints on boards and in person just talking to people already. The two cars are just too similar. There's even one single style of interior, just in different colors. At least give one the pre-pro grill, something. The V6 having the nicer bumper isn't gonna help the V8 sales also. :think:

Pin stripping? no.

Hood bulges? no There were cowl hoods. Those hoods were reserved for Z/28, SS, COPO, Yenko, or I believe any car you could order them on as an option. There were SS hoods with fake hood vents but to my eye the cowl was king.

True, cowls were the best. They could not be had on base models though, unlike the 5ths.

Fender Striping? Spoliers?

I guess you mean the hocket sticks? again an option on just about everything. as with the spoliers which were the same across the board as I had on my 69 350 2bbl same as on a Z/28

The hockey sticks were only available on the SS IIRC, I think the one that wrapped around the front were available on base cars.

Fender bulges?

Yes The 5th gen has those of the 1st 67 and 68 not 69 and 3rd gens

You mean similar to 67, 68, and Third Gens? Agreed if so, those are the only Camaros I see in the 5th, no matter how much they constantly say it's all based off of the 69. :rolleyes:

Now I do agree on badging. Id like to see the Z/28 get nice badging and now that you mention it, I think if GM decided to go with the 69 fender swooshes over the wheel wells for the Z/28 rather than the fender bulges of the V6 and SS, that would be a beautiful touch AND differentiation IMO :)

That could be a good idea, something like original concepts people made that were featured in magazines. But it is also highly unlikely.

Complaints will mean nothing to GM. They care about sales. Which is what they should care about. The fact that the SS and the V6 versions are so similar asthetically will result in higher sales of V6 models which is the key to the finacial success of the model. I will buy an SS/RS but I actually like the fact that the V6 models will be very sporty looking. It is nice to see that someone who wants a V6 can get a car similar to the top of the line model. I don't understand the whinning. There will be a ton of these cars in all models. These are production cars. Wanna look special then make whatever changes you want.
I have seen similar complaints about the Z06 and ZR1 being too much like the C6 coupe.

The point here is the V6 can be sporty without looking just like the V8.