Carlos26 08-12-2008, 07:08 PM This is just me...but i dont like the new mustang looks or better yet any mustang they dont attract me.....But a Camaro i will take one any day of any year model except the 2010 model cause it looks like a freaking mustang when looking from the side. If you compare a a 2008 mustang and the new camaro from a half block away sideview you couldnt tell the difference. I was hoping the guys at GM were able to come with some unique looks and not copy of the mustang....looks wise.
I'm dissapointed.
99SilverSS 08-12-2008, 07:54 PM Sorry for your disappointment. The ability to recognize the difference between vehicles is a learned and usually a male oriented ability. Guess it goes back to our primal hunting instincts and figuring out that a raccoon makes a better meal than a skunk….
The two cars look nothing alike from any angle.
The Camaro looks nothing like a Mustang. Gm designers actually had some skill and thought that makes the Camaro look like nothing else on the road. From the door back I can maybe see C6 corvette, but in no way do I see the boxy Mustang.
Camaro SS, 3/10...kickin ass at a stoplight in your neighborhood! Horsie, meet the glue factory!
onebadponcho 08-12-2008, 08:20 PM This is just me...but i dont like the new mustang looks or better yet any mustang they dont attract me.....But a Camaro i will take one any day of any year model except the 2010 model cause it looks like a freaking mustang when looking from the side. If you compare a a 2008 mustang and the new camaro from a half block away sideview you couldnt tell the difference. I was hoping the guys at GM were able to come with some unique looks and not copy of the mustang....looks wise.
I'm dissapointed.
Do you have a flame suit handy? Because it's about to get awfully hot in here. :yes:
Ron78Z&01SS 08-12-2008, 08:26 PM Thanks for sharing....but you're in the minority.
See-ya :cz28:
willz 08-12-2008, 08:29 PM Sorry for your disappointment. The ability to recognize the difference between vehicles is a learned and usually a male oriented ability. Guess it goes back to our primal hunting instincts and figuring out that a raccoon makes a better meal than a skunk….
:lol: Get 'em!
goten929 08-12-2008, 09:12 PM umm what are you looking at buddy!? They look completley different. You can tell the diff. from any angle at any distance, and if you can't then you need to get your eyes checked.
TrybalRage 08-12-2008, 09:59 PM The new mustang looks like a retro mustang, and the new camaro looks like a retro camaro.
No copying here.
Carlos26 08-12-2008, 10:25 PM http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/ford_mustang_v6deluxecoupe_2008_exterior_sideview_ 640x480.jpg
http://www.sportscarcup.com/cars/chevrolet-camaro-side.jpg
Now i said they look alike about half a block away....but still..compare the two images above....then compare a 1993-1997 camaro with a 1994-1999 mustang big diference ehhh.
HOTCIVIC 08-12-2008, 10:30 PM http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/ford_mustang_v6deluxecoupe_2008_exterior_sideview_ 640x480.jpg
http://www.sportscarcup.com/cars/chevrolet-camaro-side.jpg
Now i said they look alike about half a block away....but still..compare the two images above....then compare a 1993-1997 camaro with a 1994-1999 mustang big diference ehhh.
The Stang looks like a plastic tinker-toy and the Camaro looks like sex.
Next.
:devil:
nexus6 08-12-2008, 10:42 PM Dont Feed the TROLL
merlinsteele 08-12-2008, 10:58 PM I've heard this stupid comparison from either a)someone trying to aggravate me. Not because I hate Mustangs and like Camaros, actually I like both, or all three including the Challenger (although the Camaro is my favorite),
and b) from a friend or two of mine who are not really into cars. For example, they only see cars as mainly either 2 door or 4 door, and can barely tell one make from another.
Actually, the traits that the Camaro and Mustang DO share are probably what attracts me to them, well, that plus some of their own individual traits. :)
99SilverSS 08-12-2008, 10:59 PM Dont Feed the TROLL
Just a little fun as the board has been quiet this week, except for the never ending curb weight debate. :think:
91BigRedz28 08-12-2008, 11:19 PM I think the argument that they share a similar profile only stands up in the 2-dimensional world. Their massing and bodylines would immediately distinguish the two cars. But I made this to supplement whatever side of the argument you think it helps. I don't think they look anything alike. No more than any other two-door car comparison would yield.
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff346/yourbuddypaul/CamaroProfileStudy.jpg
Fbodfather 08-12-2008, 11:55 PM You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
They BOTH have 2 doors!
They BOTH have windshields.........
They BOTH have 4 tires and wheels.........
They BOTH have a driver's seat.....................................
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
supr_bikr_99 08-13-2008, 01:01 AM You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
They BOTH have 2 doors!
They BOTH have windshields.........
They BOTH have 4 tires and wheels.........
They BOTH have a driver's seat.....................................
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
The two look nothing alike from any angle. It's a shame your glaucoma is getting bad because it's definitely causing your optic nerves to see strange things.
(I jest, but they still look NOTHING alike)
Good Ph.D 08-13-2008, 01:11 AM http://smiliesftw.com/x/tear.gif
guionM 08-13-2008, 01:14 AM This is just me...but i dont like the new mustang looks or better yet any mustang they dont attract me.....But a Camaro i will take one any day of any year model except the 2010 model cause it looks like a freaking mustang when looking from the side. If you compare a a 2008 mustang and the new camaro from a half block away sideview you couldnt tell the difference. I was hoping the guys at GM were able to come with some unique looks and not copy of the mustang....looks wise.
I'm dissapointed.
I read your post and I read your signature.
How old are you?
christianjax 08-13-2008, 06:07 AM Yeah, and Angelina Jolie and Rosie O'Donnell look alike too. They both have a head, two arms and a couple of legs all attached to a torso.
Edit:, dangit, just read the rest of the thread and saw Fbodfather's post. Great minds DO think alike.
missmy79 08-13-2008, 08:54 AM So what if the mustang and camaro look similar? I happen to think the mustang looks pretty awesome right now. If there were no Camaro, I'd be in a Mustang right now. Let's just say, to me, they look different enough that I'd wait 2 years to buy the Camaro over the Mustang. In fact, I just did. :cool:
2lane69 08-13-2008, 02:12 PM Well, they are both Pony cars that draw heavily from their 60's origins. Long hood, short deck, 2+2, etc.
With that argument, a 335Ci looks the same from a half block away, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's not a Mustang....or does it?
DeuceGI 08-13-2008, 02:13 PM This is just me...but i dont like the new mustang looks or better yet any mustang they dont attract me.....But a Camaro i will take one any day of any year model except the 2010 model cause it looks like a freaking mustang when looking from the side. If you compare a a 2008 mustang and the new camaro from a half block away sideview you couldnt tell the difference. I was hoping the guys at GM were able to come with some unique looks and not copy of the mustang....looks wise.
I'm dissapointed.
These folks might be able to help you out:
http://www.lenscrafters.com
missmy79 08-13-2008, 02:28 PM :lol:
Tantalizer43 08-13-2008, 03:40 PM The Stang looks like a plastic tinker-toy and the Camaro looks like sex.
Next.
:devil:
Ha ha! Case closed!
:lol::yes:
JOHN1243 08-13-2008, 03:44 PM cherry bomb exhaust in his signature should have given that away.
JOHN
5thgen69camaro 08-13-2008, 06:29 PM This is just me...but i dont like the new mustang looks or better yet any mustang they dont attract me.....But a Camaro i will take one any day of any year model except the 2010 model cause it looks like a freaking mustang when looking from the side. If you compare a a 2008 mustang and the new camaro from a half block away sideview you couldnt tell the difference. I was hoping the guys at GM were able to come with some unique looks and not copy of the mustang....looks wise.
I'm dissapointed.
I dont know... looks like a Camaro to me!:D
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3047/2757337892_d9729d38f9.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/2757337906_674d4041f1.jpg?v=0
GTOJack 08-13-2008, 09:16 PM Some people confuse the Avenger and the 04-06 GTO and some people are just confused.
Have you driven a Ford lately?
foxbat 08-13-2008, 09:53 PM Sorry for your disappointment. The ability to recognize the difference between vehicles is a learned and usually a male oriented ability. Guess it goes back to our primal hunting instincts and figuring out that a raccoon makes a better meal than a skunk….
muhahahahahaaaaa!! winner!! :D:D :thumb::thumb:
ws6transam 08-13-2008, 09:58 PM Sorry for your disappointment. The ability to recognize the difference between vehicles is a learned and usually a male oriented ability. Guess it goes back to our primal hunting instincts and figuring out that a raccoon makes a better meal than a skunk….
One of the best comebacks ever! :p Classy, but with just a hint of sarcasm.
01sunsetz28 08-14-2008, 11:26 AM Its funny how there are so many people that think if a Camaro doesn't have a huge glass hatch and doesn't look like an updated version of the 2nd gen, (like the 3rd and 4th gens) then its not a Camaro anymore. They see the new version so different and they think its just a Mustang copy rather than a very well executed modern interpretation of the ORIGINAL Camaro style. Whatever. Those are usually the same idiots who can't differentiate between a Camaro and a Firebird.
How does the 3rd gen look like an updated version of the 2nd gen? Just curious cause I don't see it.
blue 79 Z/28 08-14-2008, 12:31 PM You're kidding, right? Hmmm Both have same basic shape, long nose, both have big hatch glass both have tail-light bar that goes across the hole back of the car following the red/yellow/white pattern. Both have same huge b-pillars. The most difference you see is in the nose, but even there its not that different. Even sitting inside both of them feels like the same car, seat type and position, laid back-legs out- staring over that long hood, dash layout, center console layout. I say body/interior-wise the late 2nd and 3rds are more similar than any other two gens. and on and on and on....? big hatch glass in a 2nd gen?? 2nd and 3rd gens are nothing alike save for 78-81 tail panel lights.
Jay Peterson 08-14-2008, 02:31 PM This is just me...but i dont like the new mustang looks or better yet any mustang they dont attract me.....But a Camaro i will take one any day of any year model except the 2010 model cause it looks like a freaking mustang when looking from the side. If you compare a a 2008 mustang and the new camaro from a half block away sideview you couldnt tell the difference. I was hoping the guys at GM were able to come with some unique looks and not copy of the mustang....looks wise.
I'm dissapointed.
:no:
Whatever you do, don't buy one. Folks at GM just can't STAND it when people buy their cars and don't actually like the way they look...pisses them off...:mad:
boomer78 08-14-2008, 02:35 PM :no:
Whatever you do, don't buy one. Folks at GM just can't STAND it when people buy their cars and don't actually like the way they look...pisses them off...:mad:
Bull...they'll take their money too.
A sale is a sale :)
01sunsetz28 08-14-2008, 03:16 PM ? big hatch glass in a 2nd gen?? 2nd and 3rd gens are nothing alike save for 78-81 tail panel lights.
I don't understand why people think 2nd gens are hatch backs.
Mushasi 08-14-2008, 06:02 PM http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/izp/ford_mustang_v6deluxecoupe_2008_exterior_sideview_ 640x480.jpg
http://www.sportscarcup.com/cars/chevrolet-camaro-side.jpg
Now i said they look alike about half a block away....but still..compare the two images above....then compare a 1993-1997 camaro with a 1994-1999 mustang big diference ehhh.
I would NEVER confuse those 2. The Camaro has that classic RWD hunch at the quarter panel, and the lines are a million times more graceful and organic than the Rustang. Note the Rustang's shiloutte is just straight, slab sided, unimaginative. I CAN'T stand its C pillar...just doesn't go with the rest of the car.
Mushasi 08-14-2008, 06:04 PM I'm glad we share the same opinion!
DETROIT — ... Welburn says the rear quarter of the production vehicle is "one of my favorite areas — very strong, very powerful."...
rcowan99 08-14-2008, 07:47 PM Yes, no hatch on 2nd gen. shoot me. :) My point was LOST: 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gens look very similar, stylistically, especially when you look at them in profile and when you put them side by side with a 1st gen. Remember Sesame Street? "One of these kids is doin' his own thing...." When most people think of Camaro they think of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gens. So they see this new one and they don't see a Camaro. They think its an attempt to copy Mustang. So you get threads like this. Show most people a 69 Camaro and they'll probably confuse it with a Mustang as well. The new interpretation of Camaro is just as legitimate as the new interpretation of the Mustang, only better. The most obvious difference is that Camaro doesn't look like a big-ass bubble like the Mustang. Hell you could photochop a Prius and make it look a lot like a new Mustang. :D As far as educating anyone under 40 so that they understand why it looks like it does they are going to have to do some serious marketing with 1st and 5th gens side-by-side to get the point across. Its almost certain that will happen. In the Transformers movie they should have made the kid's used car a '69.
mdacton 08-14-2008, 08:10 PM the 2 cars share a similar shape....
I can see it, in the dark a block away you couldn't tell
91BigRedz28 08-14-2008, 09:04 PM I don't think it's all that smart to rely heavily on the 1st gen as a marketing crutch. The 2010 stands on its own. I think the Welburn "Essence" video gets that across pretty well.
Bradl1982 08-15-2008, 05:37 PM It pisses me off when people say it but it's true, the average non car person thinks they look the same. I've heard it about 50 times so far.
01sunsetz28 08-15-2008, 06:08 PM Yes, no hatch on 2nd gen. shoot me. :) My point was LOST: 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gens look very similar, stylistically, especially when you look at them in profile and when you put them side by side with a 1st gen. Remember Sesame Street? "One of these kids is doin' his own thing...." When most people think of Camaro they think of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gens. So they see this new one and they don't see a Camaro. They think its an attempt to copy Mustang. So you get threads like this. Show most people a 69 Camaro and they'll probably confuse it with a Mustang as well. The new interpretation of Camaro is just as legitimate as the new interpretation of the Mustang, only better. The most obvious difference is that Camaro doesn't look like a big-ass bubble like the Mustang. Hell you could photochop a Prius and make it look a lot like a new Mustang. :D As far as educating anyone under 40 so that they understand why it looks like it does they are going to have to do some serious marketing with 1st and 5th gens side-by-side to get the point across. Its almost certain that will happen. In the Transformers movie they should have made the kid's used car a '69.
I know what your point is, but it doesnt make much sense. 2nd gens are round, 3rd gens are more square, and 4th gens are big wedges. The profiles aren't even close IMO.
As far as people confusing Mustangs and Camaros: I don't associate myself with retards so I wouldn't know. A girl I knew in highschool called my 71 a Mustang and I promptly gaver her the boot. They look nothing alike and still don't other than the fact that they are both pony cars.
blackbirdta 08-16-2008, 07:55 AM speaking of one car looking like another. im pretty damn good at spoting a certain car from a distance...usually. i was driving down the highway a couple weeks ago and got really excited about what i thought was a new Challenger...turns out it was a ~'90 ford probe :lol::uhoh:. that one was probably all my fault, but I saw a tail light across the back of the car and made a bad assumption haha...
notsonic 08-17-2008, 02:01 AM i used to think the 1st gens looked nothing like the rest, but...
if you put a 69 and a 70 next to each other, you can tell theyre the same car.
if you line up a 69, 70, 78, 87, 93, 98. you can see the progression. theyre all the same.
but if you stick a 10 on the end, its more of a sum of all previous camaros rather than a continuation of the 4th gen.
some (me) wanted another 4th gen, most wanted another 1st gen. but you can see both in the 5th gen.
it also has a lot of 3rd gen too.
FiefSS 08-17-2008, 10:48 AM Um a 69 and a 70 Camaro are not the same car... Looking at them they do not look like each other or share a single body panel. They are both Camaro's, with 2 doors, rwd and 6 cylinders and 8 cylinders from weak to powerful. But they are far from the same car.
flowmotion 08-17-2008, 05:20 PM (dons flamesuit) The original Camaro was sometimes referred to as the "Chevy Mustang". So since the original versions were similar, it is natural that retro versions look somewhat alike.
Note that I don't think the cars look the same at all. However they look more similar to each other than any other two cars on the market.
So, "looks like a Mustang" is probably an inevitable opinion from people who aren't car fans.
notsonic 08-17-2008, 06:38 PM Um a 69 and a 70 Camaro are not the same car... Looking at them they do not look like each other or share a single body panel. They are both Camaro's, with 2 doors, rwd and 6 cylinders and 8 cylinders from weak to powerful. But they are far from the same car.
no **** sherlock, of course they dont share any exact body panels.
but if you put one next to the other, you can identify that theyre both camaros.
rcowan99 08-17-2008, 11:50 PM I know what your point is, but it doesnt make much sense. 2nd gens are round, 3rd gens are more square, and 4th gens are big wedges. The profiles aren't even close IMO.
I see where you are coming from. I still see the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th styling as way different from 1st and 5th. That's why I group 2nd 3rd and 4th together. The 1st and 5th gen don't have the big ass back glass and rocket-sled look. Fbodfather said that when he worked at a dealership in the 70s people wanted to take sledgehammers to the car they were so pissed with how it changed from 1st gen to 2nd gen! The change from 4th to 5th is the second biggest design risk they have taken.
From 2nd gen onward the Fbody took the road not taken and it was way different from what it was from 67 to 69. Now it's swinging back to rejoin the 1st gen path with only subtle influences from 2nd-4th.
Personally I call 1st and 5th gen styling "Camaro" styling and 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gen styling is "Firebird" styling if that makes any sense.
Schismblade 08-18-2008, 12:11 AM My only problem with the Camaro is the interior. I think they did an excellent job with the exterior.
01sunsetz28 08-18-2008, 04:57 PM Fbodfather said that when he worked at a dealership in the 70s people wanted to take sledgehammers to the car they were so pissed with how it changed from 1st gen to 2nd gen!
It's too bad they felt that way. I think the early 2nd gens are the best looking of all the gens. I'm prob in the minority on that one.
merlinsteele 08-18-2008, 10:14 PM It's too bad they felt that way. I think the early 2nd gens are the best looking of all the gens. I'm prob in the minority on that one.
I wanted a Camaro so bad when I was younger, I bought the first one that came along. Yet later when I saw the candy apple red '73 Camaro that my brother and his friends had fixed up, and he was getting ready to sell so that he could buy a new pickup, I knew I had to have it. I loved that car. Too bad I wrecked it once in the front end, and the motor blew on me not long after. Anyway, I agree with you on that. Even though the '73 was not the best of them, it was one of my favorite Camaros.
Logansneo 09-05-2008, 03:02 AM So why do people think this car....
http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/E/k/ny_08_ford_gt500kr.jpg
...and this car...
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/gallery/data/558/medium/cam14.jpg
...look the same? I don't see it!
Logansneo 09-05-2008, 03:07 AM It's like saying that this car...
http://marquezbodyshop.com/IMGS/galeria/1967%20Ford%20Mustang%20GT%20500M_1280x960.jpg
...and this car...
http://classicads.greatoldcars.com/images/5732630.jpg
...look the same! No, they don't!
WTF, of course they look the same. They have 2 doors, and 4 wheels, and lets not forget what makes all cars look the same, they're both the same color!!! Yeah right, if you can't tell those 2 apart you don't belong on a enthusiest message board. Go compare your Camry to the Accord. Camaro: Beautiful Muscular Styling, shows heritage but is modern, world class performance. Mustang: Totally retro, but poorly done, slab sides, lousy powerplants other than the GT500, outdated technology. Hands down, Camaro will be raising the Lombardi Trophey after this battle!
Greenrail 09-05-2008, 11:42 AM Not to mention that they have headlights, taillights, license plate brackets, back up lights, an engine and exhaust systems.
While essentailly similar in concept (4 seat sports coupes) they are polar oposites in styling (in my opinion).
There is no way inthe world I would ever confuse the Camaro with a Mustang, Challenger or other 2 door sport coupe, unless it was a cheap copy from one of the many Chinese manufacturers.
At which point, it would be relatively easy to spot because of the lower quality workmanship and engineering.
Logansneo 09-05-2008, 04:35 PM I think that the 2010 Camaro and the 2009 Challenger actually share more in common as far as body style cues such as the teardrop rear quarter window and the rear quarter fender flare, but that doesn't mean that I could ever mistake them for eachother. At least not in my opinion, and that's what we are talking about here anyway, everyones opinions. I'm not saying someone without the years and years of owning both a 67 Camaro and 67 Mustang like I have had couldn't tell them apart, but I feel that they may be lazy and just don't want to take the time to differenciate between pony cars.
jaymac332 09-06-2008, 03:05 AM Sure, they both are coupes with a long hood and short rear deck, but i can always tell a Camaro from a Mustang...ALWAYS. Especially from the profile, where the Mustang is straight, the Camaro has curves. The grills are different angles too, the Mustang has a worried puppy dog look while the Camaro has wolf-like grin.
Yeah, I dont know where this guy is coming from...there are simularities, but if you cant tell the difference in half a second, then I am sorry but you shouldnt call yourself an enthusiast. The attitude of the two cars are completely different, and yes, it IS apparent at a first glance.
97faceoff 09-06-2008, 03:31 AM God I know this is an old thread, I felt that as a muscle car junkie had to comment. Though I will admit my first car was a 66 stang, my first true love was a 67 camaro. Still I glance at mustangs from time to time I really couldn't see my self settleing down with one. After saving the pics to my desktop carefully comparing the two....BRO, apples & oranges....
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