EGT gauge..

JordonMusser
07-16-2002, 10:25 PM
anybody use one? what cylinder did you install it in? I was assuming #1, as it gets the leanest with nitrous.

thanks.

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PWRMAD95
07-16-2002, 11:16 PM
Yeah, number one, fairly close to the exhaust port.

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Jesse_Boyer
07-17-2002, 08:41 AM
what's an EGT guage?

Slow95T/A
07-17-2002, 10:53 AM
Anyone know how much of a temp. diffrence it would be between the temp. at the primary tube and temp at the collector?

Scott

Guido
07-17-2002, 01:27 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Slow95T/A:
Anyone know how much of a temp. diffrence it would be between the temp. at the primary tube and temp at the collector?

Scott</font>

Id imagine quite a bit of difference.

I know that with 3rd gens since we dont have heated o2 sensors, if we upgrade to long tube headers it is a good idea to upgrade to heated o2 sensors as well because it takes longer for the o2 sensor to heat up being down in the collector and can run rich for extended periods of time on start up.

I would think that the same concept applies here.

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JordonMusser
07-17-2002, 03:08 PM
the EG temp would be useless at the collector.. it needs to be as close to the port as possible..
Jesse-
I assume you have figured it out via context, heh.

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JZ 97 SS 1500
07-17-2002, 03:35 PM
On a standard SBC , 2 1/2" from the header flange on the #3 cyl. On an LT1, since the intake distribution is a little different, either #1 or #3 would do the job.

BTW if you just look at the programming from the factory LT1 PCM, #1 runs the leanest by design.

Jose

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Jesse_Boyer
07-17-2002, 04:51 PM
Jordon, yup, I pulled my head out of my ass, much easier to understand things that way...

Anyway, hows the new setup coming?

Sparkz28
07-17-2002, 06:06 PM
I have mine in the number one.....

JordonMusser
07-17-2002, 07:33 PM
spark- what kind of temps you seeing.

my new setup is coming along slowly.. but surely. t-trim/forged 355 etc

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arnie
07-18-2002, 09:09 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">BTW if you just look at the programming from the factory LT1 PCM, #1 runs the leanest by design.</font>

Oh, how's that? Please explain your reasoning.

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JZ 97 SS 1500
07-18-2002, 11:03 AM
If you look at the cylinder balances from factory the engineers took into account that the #1 cyl ran the leanest.

Jose

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sleeperz28
07-18-2002, 01:34 PM
Ive always hurd that LT1s blow the rear 2 cylinders first, well maybe thats just with blowers. All the LT1's with blowers around here blow 7+8 gaskets first, but I have always hurd 1 on the sbc.

zturbo
07-18-2002, 02:44 PM
7&8 prob get blown easiest cause the air is being forced to the back of the intake and creates a high pressure area (all be it not huge diff but still) So that is why i would think the 7&8 lean out and blow.

why not just get all 8 egt'd and call it a day http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif

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JordonMusser
07-18-2002, 09:11 PM
with an NA motor, the front are leanest.. I suppose your thinking could be correct for a FI motor.

8 EGT = money http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif

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arnie
07-19-2002, 09:22 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">If you look at the cylinder balances from factory the engineers took into account that the #1 cyl ran the leanest.</font>

Jose, I realize that. My ? is in regards as to what rpm are talking here. GM basically 'tuned' to a specific rpm range. What range do you think that is? Remember, they have clean emissions in mind. Just because is is lean at idle/low rpm doesn't mean it is running lean at higher rpm. The calibration bias doesn't necessarily remain constant throughout the rpm range, does it? So, back to my original ? Does it really run lean? I'd be more concerned if it is lean at higher rpms. Is it? BTW, I'm confident it is not by design per sae, but by engineering compromise/fault. No?

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RonnieW
06-10-2003, 01:27 PM
I know this is an old thread but I didn't see a firm answer as to which cylinder. I was doing a search and am still not sure whethe to put the EGT in the #1 or #7/8? Did I miss something, I am still searching.

ryan2
06-11-2003, 12:11 PM
http://www.westach.com/images/showcase/3DC2-1-Dual_EGT.jpg

RonnieW
06-11-2003, 04:21 PM
I saw the multiple ones after I had already ordered the single. I may go to multiple ones later. Some of the response on a couple of different threads that I have posted on have given have contradicted each other. Some say cylinders 7 or 8 others say 1 or 2. I'm confused. :confused: I know that before when running N/A and with nitrous that the front plugs showed to be the leanest on mine.

1st and goal
06-13-2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by zturbo
7&8 prob get blown easiest cause the air is being forced to the back of the intake and creates a high pressure area (all be it not huge diff but still) So that is why i would think the 7&8 lean out and blow.



#8 would be more likely to go out due to lean conditions if someone is still using the stock fuel rails as the stock rail leave alot to be desired for high horsepower applications.

I'm thinking about doing one of these also and am interested in a final verdict on where to put one.

I'm leaning towards #1 ;)

Marc