bfg drag radials..

How good or bad are they? I'm needing tires, it seems the bfg's are only 150.00 each compared to the others at 185.00-190.00 each, can i get them to work good with an M6 & bolt-ons? Or should i just get some MTs or Hoosiers? My lauches will be high as possible, i'm running a 9" with 4.11s/spool, BMR TA, custom driveshaft, solid joints.

If you're going to leave them on an drive the street get the MT ET Street radails, they have an actaul tread pattern.
If they are a track only tire then the Hoosier drag radials rock, they are D.O.T. but they have no tread, just a couple of lateral grooves.
''testemonial'' I pull 1.45 to 1.50 sixties every pass and have never spun a launch on any track with them on the car in my sig. auto/4.11s/spool@3340 raceweight

We ran them back when they were the only game in town with pretty good success, granted they aren't as good as the MT's. With a stick it will be a little trickier but they beat the pants of any "normal" radial tire.

We used to street race a car that wore a set of 235/60/15's (smallest 26") with a big block and on the hose I won a ton of cash with that car.

The main tire that i really am looking at are the hoosier DRs because they have an 83 circ. vs. the others at 82, i 'm not going to run these tires back & forth to the track, i'll take them & change them out when i get there, at least thats the plan anyway, i'm just trying to save some change this time, i'm broke after shelling out for the rearend upgrade lol, i was highly pissed when i went to the track & ran slower do to these street tires, so i need to do something, i have heard conflicting stories about the BFGs, but it could be owner error too, my power level isn't that high, its just the M6, i need to leave at or around 5K to get some decent 60ft. times. I know for sure the ET streets will do the trick, but i'll have to heat then up more to get them to hook over a drag radial, but thats where a line-lock will come in handy, plus i'll most likely have to screw the rims & run tubes also, thats why i'm wanting to stay drag radial for these reasons, unless you guys think i'll be fine/better off with ET streets instead.

We ran them back when they were the only game in town with pretty good success, granted they aren't as good as the MT's. With a stick it will be a little trickier but they beat the pants of any "normal" radial tire.

We used to street race a car that wore a set of 235/60/15's (smallest 26") with a big block and on the hose I won a ton of cash with that car.

So you did this on the BFG's? what kind of tire pressure did you run in them?

16 to 18 lbs of air, 1.54 60-foots when tested on the track with this car.

If your changing them out at track, just get a dedicated drag tire that is the best bet.

I used bfg dr's for about 6 years 275-60-15

Was pleased with them.

recently tried a set of MT dr's on another car, they simply work great.

I would never use any of them on the street.

If your going to swap them out then go with MT, or a slick but I guess you probly run street class and need a dot tire

Hands down, the #1 DR on the market is the MT ET DR. I run a little bigger tire (325 50's) and cut 1.3's all day long. It's almost like cheating :D

Hands down, the #1 DR on the market is the MT ET DR. I run a little bigger tire (325 50's) and cut 1.3's all day long. It's almost like cheating :D

Have you run any of the other modern drag radials? Like the Hoosiers?
It may be the most well known, the most popular by word of mouth, but is it really, imperically tested, to be the best? Point me to the test data.

Al, get ahold of MT and ask them. My good friend is a field engineer for them and they test everybodies tires on a regular basis and they have reems of data from these test sessions.

In most cases where Hoosiers are better in back to back testing is when the Hoosier tire has more run-out and more width than the competitors tire. Hoosier tires (10.5 style and some radials) have a hard time meeting the "go or no go" guage, for example earlier in the year Hoosier was selling (actually giving away) a 33x10.5 w tire used in Outlaw 10.5 that had 4" of more rollout than the same MT and it measured 13 at the tread (that tire was outlawed now hoosier is selling something that will pass.

Its hard to get a true comparison between a given size because for whatever reason engineers have a hard time with measuring tires or at least labeling them.

Currently the fastest Outlaw 10.5 car wears MT tires
Currently the fastest ADRL 10.5 car wears MT tires
Currently the fastest ORSCA Outlaw 10.5 car wears MT tires
Currently the fastest ORSCA Limited Street car wears MT tires
Currently the fastest ORSCA Drag radial car wears MT tires
Currently the fastest PSCA drag radial car wears MT tires

The fastest nitrous powered drag radial car wears MT tires
The fastest blower equipped drag radial car wears MT tires
The fastest turbo equipped drag radial car wears MT tires

I don't think its by chance that all those cars run MT tires because the name is more common.

I was really thinking of the Hoosier 255-50-16 DRs over anything else, i've heard they are just as good as the MTs, if not better, i know the QTP Bias are just as good (if not better) then the ET streets, the only real reason i'm leaning towards the Hoosier over the MTs are the height, 26.4" & 83 cir. Hoosier vs. 26.2" & 82 cir. MTs, now if this won't make much of a difference, i may go MTs, but the main problem at hand also is there still on back order in this size, unless someone knows who has them.

don't forget that the larger roll-out or circumference helps traction,
the diffrence in height between those two probably wont have an effect on power

I was really thinking of the Hoosier 255-50-16 DRs over anything else, i've heard they are just as good as the MTs, if not better, i know the QTP Bias are just as good (if not better) then the ET streets, the only real reason i'm leaning towards the Hoosier over the MTs are the height, 26.4" & 83 cir. Hoosier vs. 26.2" & 82 cir. MTs, now if this won't make much of a difference, i may go MTs, but the main problem at hand also is there still on back order in this size, unless someone knows who has them.

Call MT directly and ask them who has what, on another board there was a guy bitchin about that his size was out of stock making a big deal out of it and all, then a person who works at Summit responded to him that they had 10 sets in ohio.

If i can't get the MTs tomorrow, i'll go with the Hoosiers.

Al, get ahold of MT and ask them. My good friend is a field engineer for them and they test everybodies tires on a regular basis and they have reems of data from these test sessions.

In most cases where Hoosiers are better in back to back testing is when the Hoosier tire has more run-out and more width than the competitors tire. Hoosier tires (10.5 style and some radials) have a hard time meeting the "go or no go" guage, for example earlier in the year Hoosier was selling (actually giving away) a 33x10.5 w tire used in Outlaw 10.5 that had 4" of more rollout than the same MT and it measured 13 at the tread (that tire was outlawed now hoosier is selling something that will pass.

Its hard to get a true comparison between a given size because for whatever reason engineers have a hard time with measuring tires or at least labeling them.

Currently the fastest Outlaw 10.5 car wears MT tires
Currently the fastest ADRL 10.5 car wears MT tires
Currently the fastest ORSCA Outlaw 10.5 car wears MT tires
Currently the fastest ORSCA Limited Street car wears MT tires
Currently the fastest ORSCA Drag radial car wears MT tires
Currently the fastest PSCA drag radial car wears MT tires

The fastest nitrous powered drag radial car wears MT tires
The fastest blower equipped drag radial car wears MT tires
The fastest turbo equipped drag radial car wears MT tires

I don't think its by chance that all those cars run MT tires because the name is more common.

Yep I think I'll call MT and ask them what brand tire is the best.:no: That's like saying to call GM and they'll tell you that their cars are the best. Darn you'd think that you work for MT not your friend.
And what does all the above info have to do with what drag radial will work best on a street car at our level of performance?
A lot of those cars wear MTs because they work AND because MT pays big contingancy money if you win on their tires. I would too:) But their's no contingency money at my races.
I just ran out my Hoosiers and as I said they never once let me down. That's way more than can be said about the QTPs or ET Streets that I've tried in the past. Next up is a set of MT ET Street radials. We will see if they work as well for me as the Hoosiers.

I never said "ask them who is best", simply for the comparison data.

My reason for above listed information is that if they can hook upwards of 2000hp and cut 60' in the high teen to mid 1.20, then our weak street cars should have no problems working,

Another for MT DRs. 3625 lbs. before my 250 lbs., through manifolds, lid, stall, 3.23s, and catback was 1.65 60'.

JMHO.

I never said "ask them who is best", simply for the comparison data.

My reason for above listed information is that if they can hook upwards of 2000hp and cut 60' in the high teen to mid 1.20, then our weak street cars should have no problems working,

And I never said that they weren't a great tire. But there's a reason that indepent testing firms are out there. Manufacturers can and often do skew testing in their favor.
I just have issue with folks who say that X product is to quote: ''Hands down, the #1 on the market'' without testing/trying the other products.

I know for a fact that the Hoosier DR works flawlessly for me and I run on street tire night.
Now I'm trying the ET DRs and by the end of the season I'll be able to say how they stackup.

I looked for the MT Radials, no one has them in stock, & most have a huge waiting list once they come, but MT keeps pushing the date further ahead, so i ordered a pair of Hoosiers from Mccormack Racing for 378.00 shipped.

And I never said that they weren't a great tire. But there's a reason that indepent testing firms are out there. Manufacturers can and often do skew testing in their favor.
I just have issue with folks who say that X product is to quote: ''Hands down, the #1 on the market'' without testing/trying the other products.

I know for a fact that the Hoosier DR works flawlessly for me and I run on street tire night.
Now I'm trying the ET DRs and by the end of the season I'll be able to say how they stackup.

I'm sure i'll love them, especially @ my HP level (under 300), you will really like the MTs too, i had them on my Truck, they freakin hooked, i was told by 2 seperate vendors that sell them all & they said the Hoosier is Just as good as the Mickies if not better, i tend to believe this because we all know that the QTPs or just as good (if not better) then the ET streets, thats been proven. I've been hooked on the MTs, i never even knew Hoosier made a DR, i was :eek:, so i'm sure they will catch on in time & be a hot ticket like the MTs.

Have you run any of the other modern drag radials? Like the Hoosiers?
It may be the most well known, the most popular by word of mouth, but is it really, imperically tested, to be the best? Point me to the test data.

You can have issues all you want. Until you start cutting some real 60's tires don't make a real difference to you.
Actually, I have ran ET Streets, Nitto's, and the BFG's. So I do my own testing. The BFG's are horrible on the track, but slightly hook on the street. All depends what you want. My buddy in a terminator had such bad wheelhop with hoosiers that it snapped a halfshaft. In the end, it's your car and you'll have to learn the hard way instead of listening to people that have been there.

The BFG DRs I had weren't as good as the MT DRs on the track. The MTs scare me on the street for handling so I won't drive around with them on, whereas the BFGs were quite a bit better for driving around and got good traction on a launch - in the rain, the BFGs were a nightmare.

You can have issues all you want. Until you start cutting some real 60's tires don't make a real difference to you.
Actually, I have ran ET Streets, Nitto's, and the BFG's. So I do my own testing. The BFG's are horrible on the track, but slightly hook on the street. All depends what you want. My buddy in a terminator had such bad wheelhop with hoosiers that it snapped a halfshaft. In the end, it's your car and you'll have to learn the hard way instead of listening to people that have been there.

So what you're saying is that 1.45 to 1.50 sixties aren't real, ok, my bad, I thought my sixties were pretty good.
If you actutally read my posts then you'd know that I've done all my own testing too
And since when is wheelhop a tire problem? Wheelhop is a suspension problem so don't be blaming the Hoosiers.
It's pretty funny when you touchy arragant types get all looking down your nose at someone witht a slower car when someone questions your statements of fact. You'd rather bad mouth me and my car than point me to some factual testing that proves your statement.

So what you're saying is that 1.45 to 1.50 sixties aren't real, ok, my bad, I thought my sixties were pretty good.
If you actutally read my posts then you'd know that I've done all my own testing too
And since when is wheelhop a tire problem? Wheelhop is a suspension problem so don't be blaming the Hoosiers.
It's pretty funny when you touchy arragant types get all looking down your nose at someone witht a slower car when someone questions your statements of fact. You'd rather bad mouth me and my car than point me to some factual testing that proves your statement.


Now who's being touchy? :D

Wheelhop can be as much fault of the ultra stiff sidewall of the Hoosiers as it can suspension. I cut 1.3's with the back tires on my ET DR's. How's that for proof? I'm not trying to bad mouth ou there mr. " I hate when people say #1 hands down" People say they are #1 because it's a fact.

I will find out friday night how good or bad these Hoosiers are, because i was having bad hop with the street tires (Cooper Zions) once i installed the 4.11s & lowered the control arms, but this was ONLY at the track, not on the road, i do know from past esperiance the MT DRs worked great & are one hell of a tire, i was told i needed a stiffer sidewall anyways with a stick car, we shall see, i'll post results.

People say they are #1 because it's a fact.

But it's not a fact, it's your opinion. There just might be a tire out there that's just as good that you haven't tried. Then they would tied for #1.

I will find out friday night how good or bad these Hoosiers are, because i was having bad hop with the street tires (Cooper Zions) once i installed the 4.11s & lowered the control arms, but this was ONLY at the track, not on the road, i do know from past esperiance the MT DRs worked great & are one hell of a tire, i was told i needed a stiffer sidewall anyways with a stick car, we shall see, i'll post results.

Start at about 23psi in them and work down if you need to. They worked great for me at 21.5 hot.

How about some rear shocks? They are most likely the most important part of the rear suspension.