Petition GM to make HUD available earlier than 12/09 for 5th Gen Camaros!

I don't know about you guys but when I saw the Ignition video on Chevy's website, I got goosebumps. But the main thing that got my attention was the HUD. And now I'm hearing that we won't get it until 12/09!

Now I don't know if that's true but if it is (and I'm pretty sure it is), honestly I think that's weak. I think that what you show us in the video, we should be able to get when the car is available. Everything we've seen we can get. For example, the halo lighting and the RS package. I'm not saying it has to come standard, but alteast let it be an option. So lets take a poll and hopefully Chevy will see how much HUD means to people.

Do you want HUD when the car hits dealerships? Or can you wait until 12/09?

Personally I think HUD is a good feature. When you're driving a car with as much power as the Camaro, it helps alot because everything is basically infront of you. And for those of you who speed easily or for those of you who are anal about speeding, HUD can help with that since it makes your speedometer easier to see. I wouldn't mind if HUD was standard on the 5th Gen but it would make more sense if it was an option. Either way I think it should be available earlier than 12/09 since the car will be available 3/09.

Yeah I would want it immediately when the car is available. It makes a hard for people that planned getting the car a launch and then not have HUD until 12/09. Like I said in the other post it seems like GM is still are behind schedule in their Camaro development.

Get the HUD out ASAP. i dont want to wait until december of 09! thats more than 16 months away

GM wants a HUD in the Camaro as much as anyone else. They are not hanging on it it for no reason or hoping that it hurts sales and pisses customers off. It makes them money. However, it takes it to make it and right now, the cash faucet isn't flowing and puts a lot of things on hold.

Again, make no mistake, HUD is wanted all the way around. I want it pretty bad myself and it sucks that the wheels can turn only so fast.

I REALLY like the HUD, but will I wait until December for it? I really dont know.

I'm very anxious about the car, I dont think the lack of HUD is a deal breaker for me...

This isn't going to do a thing unfortunately.

I wonder if we'll be able to add HUD in the future at a reasonable cost?

I seriously doubt the reasonable cost....probably different dash (could be wrong), wiring, and I can't see them putting in the coated windshield unless it was necessary.

I really don't get why they would delay this. I understand GM is in a cash crunch, but why delay a popular option? It seems like for every step GM takes forward, they take one back :mad:

As I posted in another thread...probably to keep up interest in a long model year.

If inded that is there reasoning, then it is piss poor reasoning. Lets delay customers from ordering their cars? I have to believe there is some other factor(s) at work. Can't prove it, but I would hope that they would not be so shortsighted. The convertible should be some much needed excitement in the winter months?

when i saw that it wasnt available till 12/09 i got pissed.Like jean said,it was in the video.Why tease us with that and then not offer it?.i will wait,but i hope something else doesn't catch my eye before then.i just refuse to invest in a new car knowing that there will be better options a few months after.i just sold my thirdgen to make room in the garage.if i knew it was gonna be longer till i could get what i wanted i woulda dropped an ls2 in it so i could have something fun till that came out.now im stuck with just my 6 banger envoy.

The fact is I am sure Scott and company would love to have the Hud now just as the rest of us.

The fact is they can't do it now so deal with it. They are.

Hud should be an option in most cars as it is not only handy but a good way to keep peoples eyes on the road. It is far from a gimick and should be expanded.

If you ever owned a Hud you miss it when you don't have it.

First off if you want it is worth the wait and besides the prices will be down by then.

Also think about this the Z/28 has been said to be about a year and half after the Camaro into. How long is the Hud form now? Hmmm....

Look for it to be standard in the Z and optional on the SS and RS V6. would be my guess.

GM wants a HUD in the Camaro as much as anyone else. They are not hanging on it it for no reason or hoping that it hurts sales and pisses customers off. It makes them money. However, it takes it to make it and right now, the cash faucet isn't flowing and puts a lot of things on hold.

Again, make no mistake, HUD is wanted all the way around. I want it pretty bad myself and it sucks that the wheels can turn only so fast.
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Come on guys. You really think they are holding on to it for fun? For whatever reason, its not ready, they put it on the back burner so they could get the rest of the car done.

Sorry, don't buy the "just wait", or "deal with it" argument. Now, admittedly, for those of us who want HUD (had it on my 04 GTP, loved it!) AND a Camaro, we really don't have much choice (some may buy a Challenger, and while I wouldn't rule out the Challenger, not having HUD isn't reason enough to buy one). What pisses me off, personally, is that it is a feature I fully expected (yes I know it was never promised one way or another, but I REALLY did expect it) and now yet another summer will go by if I wait for it, or I buy now(Spring/Summer '09) and don't get what I consider to be a very good item.

As I posted in another thread...probably to keep up interest in a long model year.

If you honestly believe that then you are very thick. I can tell you that GM wants it as bad or more than you guys. As Jason previously stated there are obstacles in having it available at launch. It is not some devious plan to prolong interest or spread out sales or whatever else you can think of.

I don't blame you for being wary of GM's tactics especially with the way they got off track in the 90's and early 2000's but this is a new GM. Unfortunately they are in a cash crunch because of some of their former practices. Not to mention the bias in the media that causes an immeasurable amount of harm to domestic manufacturers. Trust me when I tell you that the whole Camaro team is in touch with what enthusiasts want. Who else brings in 15 enthusiasts to drive the car and give them feedback? The whole team loves this car and is doing everything they can to make it a success. There are no tricks or sneaky plans with this car. There doesn't have to be. There is one overriding goal: make it the best car possible.

If NAV is the biggest change GM does after the first year with the Camaro it will be a miracle.
In the past the first year always had a bastard PCM and/or lower HP and/or even a different engine. I would be more concerned with waiting for that reason not a NAV.

It is not some devious plan to prolong interest or spread out sales or whatever else you can think of.

Seriously. Having HUD would be a neat discriminating feature to have in all the camaro vs XXX magazine articles that are soon to come out. As somebody said in another thread, no NAV in a 21st century supposedly modern sports car is bad enough, but something like HUD would at least give the geeks and toyfreaks something to be happy about.

QFT
Come on guys. You really think they are holding on to it for fun? For whatever reason, its not ready, they put it on the back burner so they could get the rest of the car done.


I don’t know what the reason is, but they shouldn't have teased us with the video. I didn't care about the HUD option because I thought they wasn't going to implement in the Camaro , but once they showed it in the video and said it would be release until 12/09 It reminded me many years ago when I was just a child and my mom took me to Toys'R'Us and didn't buy me anything. :D

If you honestly believe that then you are very thick. ....... I don't blame you for being wary of GM's tactics especially with the way they got off track in the 90's and early 2000's but this is a new GM.


I'm going to attempt not to take that personally (although being accused of being an idiot makes it a little hard). Note that I said "probably". Just a guess. Like you said, it wouldn't be the first time.

GM will have to wait then to get my hard earned cash....:) I've driven around in my friends corvette, and that HUD is just awesome. Wouldn't want my camaro without one.

I don’t know what the reason is, but they shouldn't have teased us with the video.

now if you thought about that for a moment... it does give you a clue as to how recently the "no HUD until....." situation might have happened.

Lets see... I'm having a video made to promote a product. Let's put stuff in it we know wont be available. Yeah, thats a good idea.

In short -- I won't buy a 5th gen without HUD. I've driven some cars with it, and it is downright awesome. I will get that option on every car I ever buy from now on, if it's available. The fact that it will eventually be available on Camaro is enough to make me wait.

However, I also won't be in financial shape to buy a 5th gen at all before December of next year, so I'd be waiting regardless.

:)

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind waiting until December but for some reason this just doesn't make sense to me. I work in the Marketing department for my company and it doesn't make sense to advertise a product, show features/options for the product, then reveal that you won't be able to get a couple of the features/options shown until 9 months after official launch date.

If you're going to do that, then you might as well show us pictures of the Z28 because that won't be available when the 5th Gen first comes out either. Everything we saw in the video we can get when the 5th Gen first comes out EXCEPT for HUD.

HUD is practically a must have in sports cars. I may just be a novice but I know that when I test drove my friends GT a year ago, I was speeding without even knowing. I wasn't even trying to gun it. And that was only 300 horses! Now you're gonna give the average joe (or josie) an opportunity to get an affordable 400 hp car and he/she can't get HUD until 12/09? 9 months after launch?

Yea they may have money issues and all that but the bottom line is, people have been ranting and raving about HUD since rumors started in 2006 and everybody knows GM saw all the rumors and speculations (which is why we have that awesome interior lighting package). And it's not like HUD is new. My friend's mom has a 5 year old Buick that has HUD in it. A BUICK!

Come on GM....don't do us like that.

I'm waiting for the HUD too. To me it is a really important feature - I love it on my Grand Prix - and it will set the Camaro apart from its competitors.

I was really excited to see hud and really want it. Now I will not have it on my camaro. I had the purchase of this camaro in the works for a while. i need a car when my 4th gen was on critical so I leased a car for 27 months (thinking I am timing it perfect). :) Wich I did. Know one of the coolest options on the car I will not have. Sure I could wait and drive my 4th gen but I don't want to put more miles on it, plus sit here at work watching other people drive away with the car I want while I sit on my hands waiting to get my car with hud. I guess I will just go with out it.:(
Unless gm says ok lets just put it in know!
One can always hope....... or keep the faith!

You guys and your petitions. hahaha I'm going to make one for a sub $15K Camaro SS.

I really really hope they bump avaliability up to initial production, and though it will not keep me from buying this car, it would be an awesome feature to have. Despite the fact GM is in a "money crunch", the cost of offering this HUD would surely be worth it, as it seems like tons of people want it, and it may be the deciding factor in the purchase of this vehicle for some.

Most likely cause is from parts suppliers and not GM.

How do you guys know it's not a supplier issue?
If the supplier doesn't have it ready, it doesn't make it into the first cars.

This happens all the time in the industry. Why do you think you always see those footnotes that say: "late availability", or "interim availability", or "available 1st quarter".
Most of the time, those are supplier issues.

The delay of the HUD is not GM's idea, not a cost cutting move nor a strategy. There are only a couple of manufactuers of HUD units. Those manufactuers have to ramp up production. As a result when GM decided to include it in the Camaro there was going to be a lag. I assume had GM made the decision very early on there may not have been a delay but there are a whole lot of components that have to come together at once to pull a truly new car off. Since GM did not just rob from the parts bin this is one of the cases that will cause a delay.

kinda like how GM wanted the 6 speed automatic transmissions in every GMT90 on introduction, but suppliers weren't able to allow that.

Yeah, I'm the same as you guys, I just want my HUD. If they told me there will be no HUD from the start, then I would not be having this problem now! So I just have to wait....

Oh yeah does anyone know where does it say officially that the camaro have a HUD 12/09?

Yeah, I'm the same as you guys, I just want my HUD. If they told me there will be no HUD from the start, then I would not be having this problem now! So I just have to wait....

Oh yeah does anyone know where does it say officially that the camaro have a HUD 12/09?
was in the web chat with John Fitzpatrick

Unfortunately it has now been postponed until 6/10 or start of the 2011 model year.

Right, like a petition is going to make any difference. Its an option that you wont even notice after a few months. Deal with it.

Right, like a petition is going to make any difference. Its an option that you wont even notice after a few months. Deal with it.

It does my a difference, the camaro team does read there forums! i.e fodfather...

December?!? WTF?

They've already delayed the damn car enough times as it is... now they are delaying the HUD another 9-10 months past the car's production date?

This is absolutely retarded... I know for a fact that I'd want an HUD but I wouldn't wait almost another YEAR to get it. I'd just shop for something else, outside "the company".

Good job, GM.

Unfortunately it has now been postponed until 6/10 or start of the 2011 model year.

Wow... absolutely, wow... I didn't see this until after my previous post.

GM must be friggin' retarded or something. This, and all the other B.S. with the 2010 model car, is going to piss a lot of people off and will definitely cut into their sales numbers.

The people that are in the market NOW are just going to shop outside of GM... and the people that really want a Camaro will just hold off until the 2011 model year when all these idiotic "bugs" are worked out.

Wow... absolutely, wow... I didn't see this until after my previous post.

GM must be friggin' retarded or something. This, and all the other B.S. with the 2010 model car, is going to piss a lot of people off and will definitely cut into their sales numbers.

The people that are in the market NOW are just going to shop outside of GM... and the people that really want a Camaro will just hold off until the 2011 model year when all these idiotic "bugs" are worked out.

Yeah... It feeling like they just want to piss off people. I'm one of those people that will hold off until 2011. But I still have a little hope that they will put it after 6 - 10 months after the car comes out.

Don't be ridiculous. GM isn't at fault here most likely. The reason is probably one of two things:

The HUD system is being completely revamped -or-
It is a supplier problem with the manufacturer of the HUD unit.

GM wouldnt hold back something that could help sales or make them money. They would sell you a car than ran on pig **** if they thought people would buy it.

i want HUD but i dont want to wait any more for my camaro. i want everythign and i want it now! im tired of waiting!

Then buy a caddy.. or a LS3 vette and stuff your kids into the non-existent trunk.