Testing new Z28 running around my area

I live high in the Colorado mountains and the GM performance guys have
about 15 cars up here testing them for days. They all park them at
one local motel. The only ones they cover at when they pull in for the
day are the two Z28 cars and they put car covers over them and strap
the covers on them. I walked up to one and lifted the cover to check
the wheels etc. and feel the hood scoop/bulge. The scoop is functional
in the front (ram air) and the back cowl is also open facing the windshield.
They have a couple of what appear to be Malibu (SS?) as it has V8 badging
on them. A couple of Cobolt SS and a slew of Pontiacs, hi-perf G98's (a
coiuple disquixed as Holden (Australia) SS cars, yet interior is all Pontiac
with Pontiac steering wheel - they juxt put Holden badging on them and
there are two fully trimmed out G8's, Also two Holden R8 Clubsport with
right hand drive (LS3, 411 hp!) and those are sweet! Also 4-5 hi-perf
Soltices and Saturn Sky.. They just run these around all day then they
come back in sit in the lot checking all the laptop data in the cars. You
can just walk right up and check them all out. The guys pretty much
just ignore you...maybe I will try and get them to talk a bit...

I live high in the Colorado mountains and the GM performance guys have
about 15 cars up here testing them for days. They all park them at
one local motel. The only ones they cover at when they pull in for the
day are the two Z28 cars and they put car covers over them and strap
the covers on them. I walked up to one and lifted the cover to check
the wheels etc. and feel the hood scoop/bulge. The scoop is functional
in the front (ram air) and the back cowl is also open facing the windshield.
They have a couple of what appear to be Malibu (SS?) as it has V8 badging
on them. A couple of Cobolt SS and a slew of Pontiacs, hi-perf G98's (a
coiuple disquixed as Holden (Australia) SS cars, yet interior is all Pontiac
with Pontiac steering wheel - they juxt put Holden badging on them and
there are two fully trimmed out G8's, Also two Holden R8 Clubsport with
right hand drive (LS3, 411 hp!) and those are sweet! Also 4-5 hi-perf
Soltices and Saturn Sky.. They just run these around all day then they
come back in sit in the lot checking all the laptop data in the cars. You
can just walk right up and check them all out. The guys pretty much
just ignore you...maybe I will try and get them to talk a bit...

Dude, where are the photos ???? :shrug:

Sorry, the wife took my digital camera on trip!!! She's coming back today and I hope they are still over there with all the cars....

Anyone interested in seeing the tricked out Holden R8 it is really sweet...

dude... in cases like that... borrow a camera or something.. or a cellphone photo... anything!!! lol. post any pics you can !

Making a post like this without pics is just asking for an A$$ whoop'n :D

Hey, I only want to give you some quality pics, cell phone pics suck! and are a pain to
post/download. My buddies camera is also with his wife! I guess we need to keep our
stuff to ourselves. I plan to go to check these cars out later this afternoon...and maybe
the GM guys will not be milling around as much since it is snowing now!

Ask the Sky/Sol guys if they are testing out the new 290hp/310tq tune. :)

Hey, I only want to give you some quality pics, cell phone pics suck! and are a pain to
post/download. My buddies camera is also with his wife! I guess we need to keep our
stuff to ourselves. I plan to go to check these cars out later this afternoon...and maybe
the GM guys will not be milling around as much since it is snowing now!

cellphone pics are better than nothing... steal a camera if you have to. lol. Or just buy one and then return it. :lol:

just go buy a cheap disposable camera and have them put the pics on a cd...doesn't cost much at all. :thumb:

I don't even see how the scoop could be functional

They have a couple of what appear to be Malibu (SS?) as it has V8 badging on them.

You lost me when you said that. :p

Where in colorado I live in colorado also I'll go up there and take the pics or vid or both. You said it was snowing? it was damn need 100 degrees yesterday and today kind of ugly but no rain or snow you must be way up high.

It is snowing in Dillon (hint). I like going to the Arapahoe Cafe (hint), a great place to
eat and there are great views, even nice views of some nice cars in the lot next to it
(hint).

did you get a hold of a camera?

on dillon lake drive right?

My wife should be arriving shortly...with my camera! Then I can go check things out..
but who knows where the cars will be. There will probably be 5 or 6 of some models
sitting around, as they have been the last 2 days. It almost seems like there are not
enough drivers for all the cars, but then they each must have a driver. The other
drivers might double up in some cars and that might be why some are parked. As soon
as I get some pictures I will post them - probably in the next few hours or later this
afternoon/evening. I also am waiting to use my wife's car as they know my car by
now...I see them watching me.

Arapahoe Cafe is on Lake Dillon Dr.

Let me know if you go up there and check things out. Maybe email your phone number
to me if you need any help.

if their truly is real ram air then no stang or chally for me..if i can get true ram air on a vert it might be hard for myself not to buy an ss vert...of course it will need to be blue with blk stripes and white gut..no chance i know for white gut but i would settle for blk......wonder what the chances are on a z28 vert?...probably would have sex with that car in my garage and forego the old lady.....

:bs::bs::bs: We want pics, not excuses. You should have waited until you
had pics in hand before any of this. You bring us pics, all is good. :cool:

:bs:

Pics or GTFO.

:lol::lol::lol::rolleyes::bs::bs::bs: pics or this thread is worthless:lol::lol::lol:

The Z28's must still be out on the road testing. Here are shots of
Soltice GXP's, Cobolt SS, Holden SS (same as the new G8 GXP) and
Holden Clubsport R8, those nice brakes are from the R8. The body
of the Holden SS is the same as the G8 GT except for their different
front and back ends, otherwise it is the G8 GT and the R8 is what the
G8 GXP will be...they sound really nice, but then again 411 hp (R8) is
really nice.
See pictures related to above comments here:

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk241/garyfrisco/

you need a hosting site, such as photobucket.com. then place the image url inside the image tags, you can click on the button that looks like this http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/images/editor/insertimage.gif place the URL inside the tags. or if you use photobucket, you can just copy the IMG code and past here.

If you do not want to do that, you can email me the pics and i'll put them up for you. ChevyCobb@gmail.com

Thanks for helping get my pictures uploaded! Many thanks and this might (somewhat)
quiet those other replies...I finally got the camera

Here are the pictures:

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk241/garyfrisco/

I did talk the the GM testing guy (sitting in one of the Holden SS) and he was really nice,
from Australia, helping to map the software that will be used in the upcoming G8 performance versions...GXP and maybe GT. I thought the GT is about ready for delivery...The GXP version will be the hot one with the LS3 motor and about 411 hp which is the Holden R8. You will notice the Holden SS fenders have the vent that is
identical as the one on the G8, so it really has the same body as the G8 aside from the
front and rear bumbers. The R8 or G8 GXP has the large vents behind the front wheel
arches that won't be on the GXP.

I live high in the Colorado mountains and the GM performance guys have
about 15 cars up here testing them for days. They all park them at
one local motel. The only ones they cover at when they pull in for the
day are the two Z28 cars and they put car covers over them and strap
the covers on them. I walked up to one and lifted the cover to check
the wheels etc. and feel the hood scoop/bulge. The scoop is functional
in the front (ram air) and the back cowl is also open facing the windshield.


So where are the pics of this Z28? :shrug:

looks like the HSV logo on the holden brakes...cool! if you ever have time, check back there to see if you can snap some pics of other things.

I live high in the Colorado mountains and the GM performance guys have
about 15 cars up here testing them for days. They all park them at
one local motel. The only ones they cover at when they pull in for the
day are the two Z28 cars and they put car covers over them and strap
the covers on them. I walked up to one and lifted the cover to check
the wheels etc. and feel the hood scoop/bulge. The scoop is functional
in the front (ram air) and the back cowl is also open facing the windshield.
They have a couple of what appear to be Malibu (SS?) as it has V8 badging
on them. A couple of Cobolt SS and a slew of Pontiacs, hi-perf G98's (a
coiuple disquixed as Holden (Australia) SS cars, yet interior is all Pontiac
with Pontiac steering wheel - they juxt put Holden badging on them and
there are two fully trimmed out G8's, Also two Holden R8 Clubsport with
right hand drive (LS3, 411 hp!) and those are sweet! Also 4-5 hi-perf
Soltices and Saturn Sky.. They just run these around all day then they
come back in sit in the lot checking all the laptop data in the cars. You
can just walk right up and check them all out. The guys pretty much
just ignore you...maybe I will try and get them to talk a bit...



Did the scoope feel like this?


http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2105/fairmountparkcamp4zc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2105/fairmountparkcamp4zc4.d5d2815ae9.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=229&i=fairmountparkcamp4zc4.jpg)

thats nice, but where are the pics of the Z28 ???

this might (somewhat)
quiet those other replies...I finally got the camera

Here are the pictures:

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk241/garyfrisco/

The ONLY thing that is going to quiet us is pics of the Z28.

The ONLY thing that is going to quiet us is pics of the Z28.And the V8 Malibu SS. :p

8Banger....you're welcome to come sit and wait for the Z...I can not sit there all the time
and I have many other things to do such as work....so if I can catch them before they
throw the covers over them fine. I can tell you were they are and you can come and
sit and wait for them...

Dude, your the one starting a thread about the new Z28. YOU are the one to show
us the pics. I'm just saying if those pics don't ever appear then guess what?:bs: Now if you get the pics then I'll be the first to :bow:
This is a die hard camaro site. People are fanatics about their cars and when you post some info like you have done, you should have known people were going to pound you until you have proof.

Oh geez...grow up 8Banger. That guy doesn't work for you or anyone here.

:bang:JUST POST PICS ALREADY!!! aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! LOL!!!

Did the scoope feel like this?


http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2105/fairmountparkcamp4zc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2105/fairmountparkcamp4zc4.d5d2815ae9.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=229&i=fairmountparkcamp4zc4.jpg)

I dont like that scoop. It ruins the cowl lines.

The ONLY thing that is going to quiet us is pics of the Z28.



:):yes:

The scoop felt like the scoop that is close down near the grille and it was not set
back like the one in this picture, however, the back of the hood bulge was large
like the picture and felt like it had an open air reverse cowl air induction or it could
be for under hood venting only.

Thanks for the report Gary.

Some of like pictures but also are just as happy with eyewitness reports.

Thanks for the info.

Oh geez...grow up 8Banger. That guy doesn't work for you or anyone here.

The guy doesn't work for me? Are you serious? Grow up? Wow, how
original. You obviously are not comprehending this thread. Ok, I'll just wait
for the pics of what he thought was a Z28. :)

Well 8Banger, if you wait long enough good things come...be patient. Here is one Camaro/Z28 shot I got this evening. I have about 12 more images of the same car but I have to wait until tomorrow to post them. The other Camaro/Z28 was already hidden under it's car cover. Maybe tomorrow I can
catch that one out on the road or in the lot. There are always Chevy guys
either in car or they throw the covers on them as soon as they get out. I got
shots of this one in the lot, but 2 guys were in the car and I don't have the
balls to walk right up and start taking pictures as they always are looking around. I don't know what the big deal is, there are so many pictures of the
Camaro why do they diquise these two cars....? I posted this one picture
just so you know I am not yanging your chain, yea, I know your grown up,
don't worry about it.

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk241/garyfrisco/Camaro/?action=view&current=P6120021.jpg

Looks a little more finished than the one in the Leftlane article that's going around. The rear valence is a little different and the tail lights are chrome trimmed.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3158/p6120017bwu2.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p6120017bwu2.jpg)

Why are these in Camo?

nice photoshop...dont know why it still is in camouflage, you say this was taken in the lot? seems to me the wheels are moving too quick to be in a lot. one of your previous posts mentioned the guys are friendly and dont mind if you walk around and in fact ignore you, now you say you dont have the balls to go and talk to them? Furthermore, the wiper in the pic and the edge of the car are too blurry compared to the surrounding area, the dimensions just seem wrong. Fact is i am calling all of this BS, if you have real pics, as you say you have i will feel like a dumbass when you post them, but for now it seems you just want attention, sorry.

nice photoshop...dont know why it still is in camouflage, you say this was taken in the lot? seems to me the wheels are moving too quick to be in a lot. one of your previous posts mentioned the guys are friendly and dont mind if you walk around and in fact ignore you, now you say you dont have the balls to go and talk to them? Furthermore, the wiper in the pic and the edge of the car are too blurry compared to the surrounding area, the dimensions just seem wrong. Fact is i am calling all of this BS, if you have real pics, as you say you have i will feel like a dumbass when you post them, but for now it seems you just want attention, sorry.

LoL! You're a complete a$$hole! :lol:

As for the pics.....uh, this just looks the same old Camaro testers we've been seeing for months now.

nice photoshop...dont know why it still is in camouflage, you say this was taken in the lot? seems to me the wheels are moving too quick to be in a lot. one of your previous posts mentioned the guys are friendly and dont mind if you walk around and in fact ignore you, now you say you dont have the balls to go and talk to them? Furthermore, the wiper in the pic and the edge of the car are too blurry compared to the surrounding area, the dimensions just seem wrong. Fact is i am calling all of this BS, if you have real pics, as you say you have i will feel like a dumbass when you post them, but for now it seems you just want attention, sorry.

If he Photoshop these he must be really good. I didn't see any photoshop work personally. It’s obvious that the car is on a road not in a lot. The reason the wiper is not in focus because the focus was on the Camaro. A Camera cannot focus the Foreground and back ground unless you open up aperture on the lens.

nice photoshop...dont know why it still is in camouflage, you say this was taken in the lot? seems to me the wheels are moving too quick to be in a lot. one of your previous posts mentioned the guys are friendly and dont mind if you walk around and in fact ignore you, now you say you dont have the balls to go and talk to them? Furthermore, the wiper in the pic and the edge of the car are too blurry compared to the surrounding area, the dimensions just seem wrong. Fact is i am calling all of this BS, if you have real pics, as you say you have i will feel like a dumbass when you post them, but for now it seems you just want attention, sorry.

Dude give him a chance. If it is BS, which im saying is not, wait untill september.

I live high in the Colorado mountains and the GM performance guys have
about 15 cars up here testing them for days. They all park them at
one local motel. The only ones they cover at when they pull in for the
day are the two Z28 cars and they put car covers over them and strap
the covers on them. I walked up to one and lifted the cover to check
the wheels etc. and feel the hood scoop/bulge. The scoop is functional
in the front (ram air) and the back cowl is also open facing the windshield.
They have a couple of what appear to be Malibu (SS?) as it has V8 badging
on them. A couple of Cobolt SS and a slew of Pontiacs, hi-perf G98's (a
coiuple disquixed as Holden (Australia) SS cars, yet interior is all Pontiac
with Pontiac steering wheel - they juxt put Holden badging on them and
there are two fully trimmed out G8's, Also two Holden R8 Clubsport with
right hand drive (LS3, 411 hp!) and those are sweet! Also 4-5 hi-perf
Soltices and Saturn Sky.. They just run these around all day then they
come back in sit in the lot checking all the laptop data in the cars. You
can just walk right up and check them all out. The guys pretty much
just ignore you...maybe I will try and get them to talk a bit...


What made you think that they were Z/28's.

BTW, when I glanced at your screen name, I thought it said gayinfrisco. :D

No offence to anyone who might be offended...

nice photoshop...dont know why it still is in camouflage, you say this was taken in the lot? seems to me the wheels are moving too quick to be in a lot. one of your previous posts mentioned the guys are friendly and dont mind if you walk around and in fact ignore you, now you say you dont have the balls to go and talk to them? Furthermore, the wiper in the pic and the edge of the car are too blurry compared to the surrounding area, the dimensions just seem wrong. Fact is i am calling all of this BS, if you have real pics, as you say you have i will feel like a dumbass when you post them, but for now it seems you just want attention, sorry.

:lol: Yikes on edge just a little. Was this thread in the Lounge for a time? :confused:
First of all the picture is not a photoshop. Obviously it was taken on the road from another vehicle. The wiper is blurry because it's not the object the lens is focused on to take the pic.
What we don't know is when or where this pic was taken. According to your fellow newbie it was snapped recently near his home. I think we can give him the benefit of the doubt and time to explain why the pic shows the Camaro moving on the road and not in a parking lot.
As for the camo; Yes Bob Lutz did order all Camaro test cars to have their camo removed several months ago and told everyone out there to take pics of them where ever they are seen.
Now from a GM perspective there are numerous reasons why if the car was pictured recently still has camo. They are working to develop a new Camaro not to satisfy amateur spy photographers.

garyfrisco, the reason there is so much attention and a little extra attitude is because of this. "Z28" While it may seem harmless the Z28 has been rumored to be the most powerful and expensive 5th Gen Camaro. It's production isn't due until the next model year after the 2010 Camaro is available next Feb. So when you say you have pics of the "new Z28" it's going to cause a stirr. The pic you have shown could be the Z28 or an SS or even a V6 we just don't know but calling it a Z28 and then the wait for pics that many of us have seen before has put a few over the edge. Welcome to CZ28.com in the 5th gen forum a few months from production, it's like the 4th quarter crunch time!

4 pages, and still no quality photo.... :shrug:

hey it could be worse....the news bimbo on fox2 news here in st louis just called a 69 z28 a dodge charger......so keep things in perspective,,it could be worse.ie the 5th gen called a dodge challenger

Yeah, I guess I did sound like an a$$hole, but, even though I just registered on this site, I have been following the camaro through this site and camaro5 since the 5th gen announcement, do own a 01 camaro, and plan on getting the 5th gen as soon as its in my dealer. The fact is that, as you guys might agree, aside from the transformers camaro pics we really have not seen any new pics, and it’s not garyfrisco’s fault, but if he posts a new thread mentioning the Z28! is in his area and he has seen it and then for the next two days there are no pics, and then when there is one it’s the same old camaro mule we have seen for the last year. it kind of got to me. So, sincerely, I agree I responded too harshly and I apologize to gary, and any others.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3158/p6120017bwu2.th.jpg

I think the picture above is the one that garyfrisco is saying was the car in the lot. Looking at the camo on the rear quarter, this is the same mule that was pictured in this thread:

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=610952

If I understand that thread correctly, this is the car that was at the MiFBody Meet & Greet event recently.

Video Clip of mule arrival posted at http://www.mifbody.com (http://media.putfile.com/MeetGreet-2008-178)

ELMOTONSS....FYI, there are 2 shots I listed, one is yes moving, shot threw my windshield and the other just showing the wheels was shot in the lot. They were
both shot yesterday and I asked the same question...why would they still be in
camo and covering them up so quickly. The camo just might have been on these
cars since they were first put out for testing and why bother taking it off (?). I
will post more pictures later today of this car that were shot yesterday. I also refer to this mule as a Camaro/Z28 as I do not KNOW if it is
a Z28, I only thought it could be by the bigger wheels, the big dual exhaust pipes/muffleres and the ram air scoop and cowl induction hood.
It also sound healthy. Other than that, yes it could be a 6 banger, though it doubt it. I will post all my shots later today....someone magazine said they MIGHT want them, thus one just can't put them out there if a magazine wants a good shot. I do have better shots...

Looks like the one the Disciples drove in Milford in May.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/21/camaro-nut-reports-from-inside-second-focus-group/

Well 8Banger, if you wait long enough good things come...be patient. Here is one Camaro/Z28 shot I got this evening. I posted this one picture
just so you know I am not yanging your chain,

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk241/garyfrisco/Camaro/?action=view&current=P6120021.jpg

Ok, we've all seen this camo Camaro many times. Where is the Z28 that
you speak of?

You got a pic of the Camaro while driving right? You couldn't speed up a little to get a pic of the front so we can see the hood??

It sounds like they are Camaro SS preproduction mules, not Z28s. Based upon previous statements that the Z28 will be 18 months behind the initial launch, I'd be very surprised if any Z28 mules were already on the street.

I was going to get the front shot but, he pulled off the road and turned around and
went back to their lot. I followed and got some shots of the front end (not too good
as I had to shoot into the sun). It is the same front end as you've seen with the
ram air intake above the grille and the cowl hood. Same as shown on the header
at the top of this web page.

I thought the Z28 was coming out first and then the more potent SS (which seems
backward as the Z28 was always top dog years ago). I understood the SS to have
the supercharged LS3 and it would put out more than the Z28 (to me again, backward
thinking on the model naming).

Speculatation is that its going back to the way it SHOULD be.........with the Z28 being back on top. But at this point, nothing is official.

I have to admit.......I was a lil disappointed.....when I saw "Z28", I thought u were reffering to the white mule with the black hockey stripes we saw several months ago or the black mule with brembos captured in the video at the ring.

It sounds like they are Camaro SS preproduction mules, not Z28s. Based upon previous statements that the Z28 will be 18 months behind the initial launch, I'd be very surprised if any Z28 mules were already on the street.
I have been reading here a lot about the new camaro so please forgive me if I should know this but, From what I take from this the Z28 will be a more potent package. Not like the 4th gen where the Z28 was the Base V8 car. Does this mean that there will be a Base V8 car(non z28) at launch? Or will there even be a base V8?

it would seem really stupid to not have a base V8 car. It would be incredibly stupid to reveal and release the production car without and available V8.

These are the pictures I shot yesterday, I put a posted a couple of these
last night...however, someone thought those were "photoshopped". Well,
are ALL these photoshopped...I got better things to do. All I did was take
some pictures. You tell me what it is and why they still have camo on it
and cover them up as soon as the get out of the 2 cars.

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk241/garyfrisco/CamaroZ28/

Gary, what some of us are wondering is what is it about them that make them specifically the Z28 version of the next Camaro?

You tell me...does the base (V6) Camaro have the ram air/cowl hood, big dual exhausts
and big wheels? Also, the mufflers look awfully large for a V6 car. It sounds nice....but
I guess you can make any motor sound nice with the right exhaust/muffler work..

These are the pictures I shot yesterday, I put a posted a couple of these
last night...however, someone thought those were "photoshopped". Well,
are ALL these photoshopped...I got better things to do. All I did was take
some pictures. You tell me what it is and why they still have camo on it
and cover them up as soon as the get out of the 2 cars.

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk241/garyfrisco/CamaroZ28/


Don't sweat all the abuse bud. Thanks for the pics.

thanks for posting the pix gary (and putting up with the impatience)...but honestly that looks like the same hood as all the spy shots we've seen.

You tell me...does the base (V6) Camaro have the ram air/cowl hood, big dual exhausts and big wheels?

Possibly, but if not, that doesn't necessarily make what you saw a Z28 unless there was a badge or something like that.

It is not a big deal really. Some people are very excited for specific and proof-positive Z28 information and are just wondering if you saw something specific. I think you saw some of the IVER/test mule cars. It sure is cool that you got to and thanks for putting up the pics and posting about it. :thumb:

yeh Gary, good pics dont sweat, i enjoyed the pics. I can tell it was a V8. :D