Anyone else notice the new wheels on the Bumble Bee?

There are some pictures of the car used in the Transformer 2 movie floating around. One has a Hummer HX and the other has a Chevy Beat.

In the photo of the Beat there is a rear shot of the Bee and it has new wheels.

Could these be a glimps of the Z/28 or new SPO wheels?

pic?

Don't know. They look basically the same to me...

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that is a really bad photo to try and depict anything from. It actually looks orange, not yellow.

The wheel looks like they have a polished look vs the old painted silver look.

Also it looks like a split spoke similar to the Z06.

Don't know. They look basically the same to me...
Now that I looks closer, I think you are right. Originally I thought they were big flat "dub" style wheels. But now it looks like the charcoal 5 spoke we have seen forever, backed by a huge rotor.
http://picsorban.com/upload/tfairandspace3_zoom.jpghttp://picsorban.com/upload/bb_zoom.jpg

http://images.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2007/112_news070104_01z+chevrolet_camaro_convertible_co ncept+left_front_view.jpg

I wouldn't doubt that for TF2 Bumblebee gets some bling wheels instead of the concept looking ones. As for the actual Bumblebee GTO based car it did get the same wheels the Silver Camaro concept had and no longer sports the ugly faux wheel covers as used in the miovie.

i wonder if they'll go with the concept again or settle on the production version.

The definately look chrome and definately look freakishly huge , more so than the 21's .....yuck .

i wonder if they'll go with the concept again or settle on the production version..

They are using the two original GTO based cars for the second movie.

when this started the Mules were not far enough along to use and I am sure they had some other reasons.

Did anyone see these pics yet? the front end looks modified.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=179719

Did anyone see these pics yet? the front end looks modified.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=179719
The picture in there confirms that the wheels are different ;). They do look like the convertible concept's wheels :).

eww i dont like that new one.

those vents look like they belong on a civic si

http://www.cardata.com/images/2008_new_cars/Honda/2008_Honda_Civic_Si_coupe.jpg

Did anyone see these pics yet? the front end looks modified.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=179719Egads! They make the fake rotors look even worse! :eek:

I'm surprised no one has suggested that Bumblebee is now a Z/28.....I wouldn't be surprised if he were with some aftermarket accessories. In fact, I'd be very surprised if this isn't the case.

Yeah, the hoodscoop on that car is in a different location as well.

Appears to have a chin spoiler now and the area around the fog lights is blacked out. Maybe front brake ducts like the Solstice GXP has. Definitely different from the first movie.

Is that a reverse hood scoop on the TF2 Bumblebee?

I don't like the brake ducts on it, but I do like the flat black chin spoiler.

I like the rims, the front end I'm a little so so on, however the picture is fuzzy so maybe a clear shot would help me decide.

Boys I think we just got the first glimps of some of the Z/28 styling.

The front lip looks production and would add to front down force at high speeds. The scoope would clear a supercharged engine with ease. and the wheels are wither Z/28 or SPO since they have been shown on several cars.

Keep in mind the Z/28 will be an over the top car in performance. It will be to the Camaro what the ZR-1 is to the Vette.

Boys I think we just got the first glimps of some of the Z/28 styling.

The front lip looks production and would add to front down force at high speeds. The scoope would clear a supercharged engine with ease. and the wheels are wither Z/28 or SPO since they have been shown on several cars.

Keep in mind the Z/28 will be an over the top car in performance. It will be to the Camaro what the ZR-1 is to the Vette.I seriously doubt that. Its still just a "movie car" and all they did was update the old car a little for the new movie. Heck it still has the concept mirrors and we know those didn't make production.

I would be shocked if it was influenced by the Z/28s styling.

Man they better not screw up BB for the next movie. LEAVE HIM ALONE!
Maybe its another Transformer character. Those wheels are ghey, and those scoops are too big. Hoods not bad though.

They should of used these wheels/brakes, they arent fake!!

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I seriously doubt that. Its still just a "movie car" and all they did was update the old car a little for the new movie. Heck it still has the concept mirrors and we know those didn't make production.

I would be shocked if it was influenced by the Z/28s styling.

Bud read all the words "a Glimps of the Z/28 stylng" Where did I say it was not a GTO based show car that I stated it was on page one.

Scott made it clear they were using the two original movie cars in the 2nd movie and it looks as they were updated even more than we had though.

Well prepared to be shocked!

Here is what is reported to be a Corvette XR1 prototype [C7 Show car?]

GM is not fooling around with this movie!

I would be willing bet a Volt Concpet might even make the act this time as a late entry.

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Bud read all thew words "a Glimps of the Z/28 stylng" Where did I say it was not a GTO based show car that I stated it was on page one.

Scott made it clear they were using the two original movie cars in the 2nd movie and it looks as they were updated even more than we had though.

Well prepared to be shocked!

Here is what is reported to be a Corvette XR1 prototype [C7 Show car?]

GM is not fooling around with this movie!

I would be willing bet a Volt Concpet might even make the act this time as a late entry.

Question (part1): Why would GM give prototypes and preproduction samples to a movie studio, when they know well that photos typically get leaked and they'll have no control of how said prototype and preproduction information gets distributed?

Question (part2): Remember how freaked out GM got over the photos of the early version of the Camaro concept getting leaked to the press? Why aren't they freaked out about these Transformer 2 movie-car photos getting leaked if they are in fact prototypes and preproduction samples?

:think:

Question (part1): Why would GM give prototypes and preproduction samples to a movie studio, when they know well that photos typically get leaked and they'll have no control of how said prototype and preproduction information gets distributed?

Question (part2): Remember how freaked out GM got over the photos of the early version of the Camaro concept getting leaked to the press? Why aren't they freaked out about these Transformer 2 movie-car photos getting leaked if they are in fact prototypes and preproduction samples?

:think:


#1 Promotion baby promotion! Car companies get few chances for product placemnt this good and you have to take it when it comes along. Second GM has peple with these cars on set so it is not like they unwatched or garded. If they were there would have been nothing left of the two Camaro's from the first movie.

Also GM has a lot to say in how they are used or portrayed. They are not stupied. These cars are cared for more than some child actors.

#2 The Camaro is know and this is not a preproduction car. It is a Camaro with parts that may very well be used on the Z/28 or SPO parts. By tyhe time this movie is out the Z/28 we should have a very good clue of what it looks like by then. IF they just used the old car in a movie that is a year or more out it would look plain by then when the real Z/28 is know.

Get a grip this car is most likley a GLIMPS [again I never said production or preproduction] of what the Z/28 may have!
The hood would cover a supercharged engine very well with the scoop making for a good inductrion. Also the splitter is a good downforce aide for a car with a lot of power at high end. The ZR-1 is using one very similar.

The Wheels may be a inch or two bigger to fill the wheel wells up but since this style was used before it is a good bet they will show up in a 21 or 22 inch size somwhere and I would bet it won't be on a SS since they are testing smaller spoked wheels.

You need to understand the Camaro is not a big seceret anymore and they were upset with the original photo release as they wanted a big impact. A Z/28 is important but will not have the impact of the original prototype as we all know what the Camaro is going to look like. The Z/28 is more important under the skin as the mechanical bits are what will be the biggest change.

On the XR1 I would say it is just a show car and it hints of the future of the C7 but that could all change with the new CAFE. It has a little over the top styling but may have keys to where they ar looking to go.

You need to understand the Camaro is not a big seceret anymore and they were upset with the original photo release as they wanted a big impact. A Z/28 is important but will not have the impact of the original prototype as we all know what the Camaro is going to look like. The Z/28 is more important under the skin as the mechanical bits are what will be the biggest change.While enthusiats know about the Z/28. Most of the rest of the world is still in the dark.

I still stand by my statement that they have no relationship. I may be wrong, but I seriously would be surprised.

Well your first statment about me thinking the wheels were different was

"Don't know. They look basically the same to me..."

Well they were different.

So is it really anything to argue about?

As fopr Transformers 2 few know they are already filming let alone know GM is playing a big part. Only a few automotive web sites and Transformer fan sites know.

To take advantage of a big movie you have to open things up a little and do it a year or so in advance as it takes time to make movies just as cars. Movie plots are protected as much or more than new cars. That is why we only get a few unclear shots like we do.

If it was shot here it would be on the back side of Milford or some high road in Colorado Springs with a zebra kit on.

Well your first statment about me thinking the wheels were different was

"Don't know. They look basically the same to me..."

Well they were different.Correct. They mimick the Camaro convertible concept wheels. Which proves what? :rolleyes:

Find out the shoot schedule and I'll get some real pics, they're in my backyard in Philly, or so it seems.

They were shooting at the Air and Space museum last weekend in DC. Had I known, I would've gone up and checked it out. Bumblebee was there, according to some of the pictures I've found.

Correct. They mimick the Camaro convertible concept wheels. Which proves what? :rolleyes:

I said they were different from the first Bumble Bee and you said they looked the same.

It proves that already your first observation was incorrect and you missed my point again. :rolleyes:

Time to move on and not waste anyone elses time here.

Lets hear from the others on their thoughts.

Anyone noticed the bottom of the grille opening is blacked out?? I was hoping that an a/m company would produce a decal to black out the bottom and sides of the grille opening as sometimes the opening seems small because, I guess, they want less drag. Blacking that area out would also make the grille and headlamps harder to see, giving the area more of the '67/'68 RS look, in a way.

I love that chin spoiler blacked out like that, but they should leave the bottom of the lower grille connected with color. IThe blacked out chin reminds me of the big DubCity R/C car from Wal-Mart:lol: The fog inlet area is retarded. The wheels looks pretty nice from the side view in the pic, but it looks like just another variation of the Monte Carlo/Impala/CobaltSS(blown, not hair dried) one's. I hope the production ones have some nice options with rims that have some DETAIL to them.

Anyone noticed the bottom of the grille opening is blacked out?? I was hoping that an a/m company would produce a decal to black out the bottom and sides of the grille opening as sometimes the opening seems small because, I guess, they want less drag. Blacking that area out would also make the grille and headlamps harder to see, giving the area more of the '67/'68 RS look, in a way.

I love that chin spoiler blacked out like that, but they should leave the bottom of the lower grille connected with color. IThe blacked out chin reminds me of the big DubCity R/C car from Wal-Mart:lol: The fog inlet area is retarded. The wheels looks pretty nice from the side view in the pic, but it looks like just another variation of the Monte Carlo/Impala/CobaltSS(blown, not hair dried) one's. I hope the production ones have some nice options with rims that have some DETAIL to them.

The front lip is to save the front end when you hit the wall!!:lol:

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7571/tfsatlaurelhill8gf6.jpg

Notice the red Bowtie. :metal:

The hood scoop is cool, but I'm not so sure about the blacked-out foglight area. The front lip is kind of cool too. The wheels look horrible.

It would seem that someone spent some time at HSV and adopted one of their worst styling cues with those blacked out fog panels. I love what HSV does, but that styling trait stinks generally - even moreso on the Camaro.

Like the scoop though.

I have no great knowledge of Transformer history, but doesn't Bumblebee have some sort of evil twin? Could a good number of the styling changes be a result of this being a Decepticon....
-Black intake
-Black stripes (nothing similar on any spy shots)
-Dark inserts on the rims
-Dark Red Bowtie

Just a thought... but, I definitely think the hood scoop could be production spec

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7571/tfsatlaurelhill8gf6.jpg

Notice the red Bowtie. :metal:

The hood scoop is cool, but I'm not so sure about the blacked-out foglight area. The front lip is kind of cool too. The wheels look horrible.

Nice I was just about to post that picture! :) I think it looks pretty good. I would drive it!

I have no great knowledge of Transformer history, but doesn't Bumblebee have some sort of evil twin? Could a good number of the styling changes be a result of this being a Decepticon....
-Black intake
-Black stripes (nothing similar on any spy shots)
-Dark inserts on the rims
-Dark Red Bowtie

Just a thought... but, I definitely think the hood scoop could be production spec


Nah, BB doesn't have an evil Twin.

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Wow! That thing looks great!

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7571/tfsatlaurelhill8gf6.jpg

Notice the red Bowtie. :metal:

Man, I would love it if the red bowtie returned for performance models. I don't mind the gold at all for standard stuff, but that looks so good and sets it apart.

Nah, BB doesn't have an evil Twin.

Thanks for setting me straight on that... I had picked that up on another site discussing the filming...

Wish I could make time to head over to the filming site :(

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The rear lip spoiler looks larger in that picture. Looks good!

Notice the red Bowtie. :metal:

The hood scoop is cool, but I'm not so sure about the blacked-out foglight area. The front lip is kind of cool too. The wheels look horrible.

Couldn't agree more. The black trapezoids don't belong on that car. Does not match the styling.

It proves that already your first observation was incorrect and you missed my point again. :rolleyes:
My first observation was based off a bad photograph. So what? It only proves that it was a bad photograph. Updating a movie car for the sequel to give the movie a "fresh" look does not prove GM's involvement nor that any of those ideas will make production.

I'm not saying they won't, only that it isn't proof, which you suggested it was.

http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Casey54/Carscoop_vxr8.jpg

Looks like Camaro HSV?

My first observation was based off a bad photograph. So what? It only proves that it was a bad photograph. Updating a movie car for the sequel to give the movie a "fresh" look does not prove GM's involvement nor that any of those ideas will make production.

I'm not saying they won't, only that it isn't proof, which you suggested it was.

I'm Sure GM would want to approve any visual change to their car for the movie since they are basically using them as a 2 hour commercial for their cars.

Thanks for setting me straight on that... I had picked that up on another site discussing the filming...

Wish I could make time to head over to the filming site :(

Not a problem! I'm more into the tranformers then Camaros, however I got the best of both worlds going on right now with my favorite car in my favorite Franchises movies! :)

My first observation was based off a bad photograph. So what? It only proves that it was a bad photograph. Updating a movie car for the sequel to give the movie a "fresh" look does not prove GM's involvement nor that any of those ideas will make production.

I'm not saying they won't, only that it isn't proof, which you suggested it was.

Give it a rest and everyone else a break!

GM make the cars look as they do for a reason Marketing. GM is involved deep in this movie and if you do not under stand that by now you have a lot to learn.

GM is spending a lot of money on these car to look and be represented as they want them to be. None of this is just happening by chance or at no cost to GM.

Scott has made it clear they spent a lot of money to build the Bumble Bees and even though they are not as costly as the original show car they were protected by GM reps as they did not want to lose either car due to the great amount of money they spent and for future use.

The bottom line is GM owns these cars and they are only on loan to the production company. GM holds the rights to approve of disapprove how they are used and represented. There is too much invested in these models and cars to just give them to a production company and let them rip them up at will.

The things done to these cars in street form are to represent the future prodution cars and or SPO parts that may be available. Note the key word MAY.

I am done with this and moved on and it is time for you to move on too.:tired:

FYI the photo may not have been the clearest but it was clear enough to tell the wheels had changes.

...all shall be revealed in due time.

Is it time yet?:cool:

...all shall be revealed in due time.

You're seriously scaring me Scott. :(