The new Camaro right on the front page of Yahoo!

antman67
05-22-2008, 09:50 PM
Check it out:
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I went to Yahoo to check my email and RIGHT on the front page was an article about the new camaro! If you click on the pick it brings you here:
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http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/573/exposed-2010-chevrolet-camaro/;_ylc=X3oDMTFhOWxzdG8yBF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEc2VjA2ZwLXRv ZGF5BHNsawNjYW1hcm8tZXhwb3NlZA--

in case the link dies, here's what they wrote:

Exposed: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro
Spy shots of the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro testing undercover on the track.
By Matt DeLorenzo | Photo-Illustration by Larson and photos by Glenn Paulina/KGP
provided by:
Road Track
2010 Chevrolet Camaro
2010 Chevrolet Camaro

Worried that the Camaro is being overexposed before its launch next year, Chevrolet has gone mum with official word about the car, while going to the unusual step of testing cars without camouflage in the hopes that spy photographers and the public would tire of seeing the same cars over and over again. Fat chance.

Recently, the Camaro underwent testing at the Nürburgring and we've taken the liberty of adding some stripes and badging to the cars to give a better picture of what it will look like in production trim. Our sources tell us the sheet metal on the test cars is accurate, so what you see in terms of the car's Coke bottle-shaped body, power dome hood with a slit scoop, non-functional louvers ahead of the rear wheels and Corvette-inspired double-bubble roof treatment is what you will get.

The Nürburgring test is significant because this is the first time Holden, which has lead responsibility for the Zeta platform and therefore the Camaro, has tested at the famed German track. As a result of that learning curve, the best unofficial lap times we've been able to obtain from observers on the scene are around the 9-minute mark — certainly well off the blistering pace set by the Corvette ZR1 at 7:40 and the Nissan GT-R Spec V, which ran an unofficial 7:25. We expect to see the Camaro's lap time closer to the magical 8-minute mark by the time the car is ready for production.

The Nürburgring tests also revealed some other Camaro nuggets, such as the use of 4-piston Brembo brakes and 20-in. wheels shod with Pirelli P245/45ZR-20 tires on the SS version. Non-SS models, which will be powered by V-6s, appear to have 18-in. wheels and higher-profile tires. Both of these wheel and tire combinations, along with suspension settings, were being tested during the session in Germany.

An insider who's driven the car says the performance of the new Camaro "will take 35 years off your life."

Spy photos also revealed that the interior will be very close to the concept car that made its debut at the 2006 North American International Auto Show. The round speedometer and tach are contained in two rectangular chrome-edged bezels behind a 3-spoke steering wheel. The center stack containing the sound system and climate controls is a rounded, organic design, while below are four retro-inspired auxiliary gauges also surrounded by rectangular bezels. While the original cluster included the fuel and coolant temperature gauges, those critical readouts have been relocated to the main instrument cluster. Now, the four console-mounted gauges are for oil temperature, oil pressure, voltage and a new readout showing engine torque output.

Slated to bow in the first quarter of 2009 as an early 2010 model, it's expected that the Camaro will be offered in three trim levels — LS, LT and SS. The base LS may be powered by Chevy's 3.5-liter pushrod V-6 making about 220 bhp. The LT models would use the overhead-cam direct-injected 3.6-liter V-6 developing upward of 300 bhp, while the SS will be powered by a 6.2-liter LS3 V-8 (similar to that found in the Corvette) tuned to produce around 400–405 bhp. A year after launch, Chevy will introduce a convertible version and after that a high-performance Z28 model with a super-charged 6.2-liter sibling to the Corvette ZR1's LS9 motor known as the LSA. That engine would make somewhere in the neighborhood of 480–500 bhp and is similar to the engine used in the upcoming Cadillac CTS-V.

In light of increasing gas prices, a crash program has been initiated to study the feasibility of offering the 260-bhp turbocharged 2.0-liter four (used in the HHR SS and Cobalt SS) as a possible base engine to replace the 3.5-liter V-6. However, that engine may not be offered until the 2011–2012 model year.

The Camaro will offer a choice of 6-speed automatic or manual transmissions. While both have beefy gearchange levers with baseball-size shift knobs, in the automatic-equipped car we didn't see any provision for a sequential-shift mode on either the shift gate or on the steering wheel or column.

Slated to go up against the Dodge Challenger and Ford Mustang, the Camaro offers a fully independent suspension (like the Dodge) compared with the Ford's live rear axle. Despite the added cost of the independent rear, Chevy is looking to keep base prices in the $20,000–$30,000 bracket, while the SS model could be in the mid- to upper- $30,000 range.

merlinsteele
05-22-2008, 11:12 PM
Yeah, I noticed that...I thought it was pretty cool...lotsa people who didn't believe me (and others) are going to be eating their words now..:cool:

Good Ph.D
05-22-2008, 11:36 PM
Looking good in black, I even like it without the spoiler, rear is chunky enough...


I may have to learn to live with the interior.

PhantomTA
05-23-2008, 01:02 AM
Does the price tag for the only v8 version bother anyone else besides me?

FAD1
05-23-2008, 01:54 AM
You know, some info in that article kinda annoyed me. One thing that really gets to me is that LS, LT, SS trim level. Do you guys think thats right. Also, they mention base and DI'ed V6, i know for sure thats not right.

z28lovr
05-23-2008, 01:55 AM
why would you be worried? its not a credible source. they are saying all kinds of things that havent been officially been released by gm yet.

IZ28
05-23-2008, 01:59 AM
You know, some info in that article kinda annoyed me. One thing that really gets to me is that LS, LT, SS trim level. Do you guys think thats right. Also, they mention base and DI'ed V6, i know for sure thats not right.

Yeah, the base cars should be RS. Why is the base and DIV6 not right?

95camaroinok
05-23-2008, 02:57 AM
besides the fact those pictures are a few months old, and most of their "specs" and info is wrong and has been talked about by higher ups on this forum.

There has also been no confirmation by GM that there will be an SS and/or a Z28 yet. All they have said is that there will be a v8 car.

5thgen69camaro
05-23-2008, 03:59 AM
Yeah, the base cars should be RS.

well we KNOW thats not right. RS is an appearance package not a trim level.

IZ28
05-23-2008, 04:42 AM
Not always. RS was a model in the Third Gen, a pretty popular one too. I doubt there will be an RS appearance option in the 5th Gen since we're not getting hideaways. (I doubt many different types of taillights too) LS has never been a Camaro trim level, LT has been in the 2nd and 3rd Gens though.

5thgen69camaro
05-23-2008, 06:49 PM
Not always. RS was a model in the Third Gen, a pretty popular one too. I doubt there will be an RS appearance option in the 5th Gen since we're not getting hideaways. (I doubt many different types of taillights too) LS has never been a Camaro trim level, LT has been in the 2nd and 3rd Gens though.

Dont care about LT or LS other than the LS3. My comment was correcting the RS comment you made specifically being entry level rather than appearance package. The reason being Scott commented on it. I had made the same comment you did in a thread I started early on saying it changed from appearance to entry level trim level in the 3rd gen. Scott corrected me in my thread. "RS is appearance package period". Thats all I needed to know.

We also know hideaways arent comming though so that wont be part of RS Im guessing if RS is an option...

RussStang
05-23-2008, 06:53 PM
The car does look a lot better in black. Especially the front end.

cmg06s
05-23-2008, 07:19 PM
Does the price tag for the only v8 version bother anyone else besides me?

what did you expect, 4th gens were that much

Mike got a camaro
05-23-2008, 07:50 PM
Since when was a 4th gen 37,500+-

IZ28
05-23-2008, 11:21 PM
Dont care about LT or LS other than the LS3. My comment was correcting the RS comment you made specifically being entry level rather than appearance package. The reason being Scott commented on it. I had made the same comment you did in a thread I started early on saying it changed from appearance to entry level trim level in the 3rd gen. Scott corrected me in my thread. "RS is appearance package period". Thats all I needed to know.

We also know hideaways arent comming though so that wont be part of RS Im guessing if RS is an option...

I guess his comment might have been regarding the 5th Gen, we'll just have to see in a few months. Since we both know it wasn't always that way for the RS.

5thgen69camaro
05-24-2008, 12:09 AM
I guess his comment might have been regarding the 5th Gen, we'll just have to see in a few months. Since we both know it wasn't always that way for the RS.

It was in a thread I started with a poll. I mentioned it changed and was asking did anyone think it should be an option as an appearance package across the board in the 5th gen. I interpereted his comment to mean he was simply correcting my misinformation that it has been anything but an appearnce package in its history. Couldnt find it though which is stange. There are only two pages of threads Ive started and its not listed in them. Maybe the threads too old? I hate not being able to find it because if Im misquoting thats my fault...

The leaked 3rd gen looking version of the 5th gen with the different grille Im assuming COULD possibly be an RS package. That coupled with the quote I couldnt find I just took the leap that that could POSSIBLY be something that might be considered as an RS package. If not maybe something along those lines.

Im stressing my pure speculation not sarcasm

EDIT: Found it decide for yourself Post #8 but whole thread included to show context that I was saying what you just said

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468516&highlight=apperance+package

IZ28
05-24-2008, 07:26 AM
That PHR concept is what the 5th Gen should look like, I still wish that! (and that 68 RS was sooooo nice) Alot of info in that post is now obsolete, but regardless of what he says, from 89-92 it was definetly a model and not a selectable appearance option.

PhantomTA
05-25-2008, 09:10 PM
what did you expect, 4th gens were that much

You could get a base V8 for low mid 20's... My 98 WS6 was just over 30k loaded.

Youre reply is fail.

Wicked1
05-25-2008, 09:37 PM
msrp for the 02 ws6 fully loaded was like 32k but if it was a convertable than i believe it was like 36.5k or close.....8 years have passed (well when the new camaro is supposed to release) so it seems prettty normal the price went up a few thousand...

merlinsteele
05-26-2008, 02:59 PM
You could get a base V8 for low mid 20's... My 98 WS6 was just over 30k loaded.

Youre reply is fail.

True, but just remember bud, that was 10 years ago you bought that beauty. ;)