blue 79 Z/28 05-20-2008, 12:31 PM which one would you consider?
to me this is a very real comparison that i am considering between the two when they are both out. i wonder if gm realizes how similar these 2 cars are in the market of rwd hp cars. sure one is a 2dr and the other is a 4dr, but the new g8 has alot of things the avg consumer is looking for over a camaro, like 4 doors and modern looks/interior/space that make it a more practical car. right now im split between the 2. i love camaro and the looks are great, but the dated retro interior is a real unknown to me, seems something of a novelty thats gonna wear out on me fast:( with the gxp slated to get over 400hp out of an ls3 and 6sp manual and auto and the rest of the drivetrain thats gonna be similar to the camaro, its really making it hard for me. the car looks great and i love that holden interior look. the price should be similar to a mid level v8 camaro also. 4drs dont bother me, a cammed 4dr that runs low 12's is pretty sweet if you ask me:eek::D:cool:
check out this sweet ride http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Ct7Zs27mQ
Z28Wilson 05-20-2008, 12:43 PM I hear ya. I love everything I see in the upcoming G8 GXP.
MetalDragon 05-20-2008, 12:48 PM I think, overall, they'll appeal to two completely different demographics (with the exception of the die hards, of course). Both seam to be solid cars. I just prefer the look of the Camaro. The interior, I would imagine, will change over the lifespan of the car to one degree or another. I'd have to see and drive both in person to really make up my mind on something like that if I were in doubt.
99SilverSS 05-20-2008, 12:50 PM The whole question is do you want 2 or 4 doors. I'm sure the Camaro will have more power and handle better. The G8 will have enough power but also have the utility of a 4 door and more usuable back seats. I'd imagine both would get similar MPG. I like the looks of the Camaro better but the G8 is a great looking car also. For me I'd like to get the V8 Camaro in 6M and the G8 GXP in A6.
Z28Wilson 05-20-2008, 12:56 PM The whole question is do you want 2 or 4 doors.
Well, not entirely the whole question. There are other aspects where I know I will prefer the G8, regardless of number of doors.
I have this dilemma. I want the 5th gen. The wife wants me to have the G8. If I have to have a 4dr, it will be the G8GXP.
Dragoneye 05-20-2008, 01:23 PM I'm not in the market for a 4 door. Not yet, at least.:p
But if I were, and was looking for a performance vehicle, I'd pick the Camaro hands down. It'll have most everything the G8 has for less. I don't know how you can beat that. :shrug:
radz282003 05-20-2008, 02:52 PM Camaro; if there was a reason that came up that I wasn't able to get one, the G8 GXP is right there in second. That's one purdy car; I'd like to see one in person.
99SilverSS 05-20-2008, 03:02 PM Well, not entirely the whole question. There are other aspects where I know I will prefer the G8, regardless of number of doors.
Interior and overall style I presume.. :D I doubt the weight issue will come into play for this debate.
MatthewRox 05-20-2008, 03:08 PM I couldn't hold out any longer and traded in my Silver 2000 Trans Am for a Panther Black G8 GT Sport.
Oh it's a hot and fast vehicle straight from the factory.
I am sure that the GXP will be that much quicker pumping out 400 hp.
Cyclinder Management does not mean **** on this vehicle or the new Camaro. You will see the vehicle drain that tank on every drive. Though I have never actually calculated the fuel consumption, comparison reflects that the vehicle drinks more Gas than my Trans Ams!!!!!!
The only time that you can gain any fuel saving is cruising at 66 mph. City driving will drain the pocket book. Those who don't worry about $6 a gallon, you will feel the drain unless you are bringing in $200k a year!
I couldn't hold out any longer and traded in my Silver 2000 Trans Am for a Panther Black G8 GT Sport.
Oh it's a hot and fast vehicle straight from the factory.
I am sure that the GXP will be that much quicker pumping out 400 hp.
Cyclinder Management does not mean **** on this vehicle or the new Camaro. You will see the vehicle drain that tank on every drive. Though I have never actually calculated the fuel consumption, comparison reflects that the vehicle drinks more Gas than my Trans Ams!!!!!!
The only time that you can gain any fuel saving is cruising at 66 mph. City driving will drain the pocket book. Those who don't worry about $6 a gallon, you will feel the drain unless you are bringing in $200k a year!
Does the G8 have a MPG display?
5thgen69camaro 05-20-2008, 03:28 PM which one would you consider?
to me this is a very real comparison that i am considering between the two when they are both out.
Which one would I consider? Well with my money that would be the Camaro. This is the only Camaro other than the 69 that I would absoloutely love to have. Theyve fixed alot of problems Ive had with the car.
i wonder if gm realizes how similar these 2 cars are in the market of rwd hp cars. sure one is a 2dr and the other is a 4dr, but the new g8 has alot of things the avg consumer is looking for over a camaro, like 4 doors and modern looks/interior/space that make it a more practical car.
Im sure they do. The cars are differentiated enough in my mind where if you feel the Camaros interior will get old quickly for your taste then you could jump on the G8 and its still a win for GM.
Remember when GM was trying to go after the Mustang with the GTO? And that was just a few inches difference in length... Yeah, I think they know
polo3433 05-20-2008, 04:57 PM I voted for the Camaro, but I was very tempted to by the G8 after I got in it and all. After seeing the video of the Camaro in Germany a few weeks ago I said to myself I have to stay committed. G8 is a beautiful car. However, a G8 seem like a car I will lease and not buy. I don't see the G8 will have the resale value like the Camaro will have. It just seems like the Camaro is bolder in its design. The G8 looks like it should have been the next generation of the 97-03 Grand prix.
The GXP is just too expensive it is expected to be around $38,000 you will be better off getting the GT version and upgrade your front brakes and deal with the HP difference that the L76 offers. It’s not much of a performance difference for the price they are asking for.
5th Gen Chevy Camaro vs 4 door Pontiac? Um, the Camaro!
8Banger 05-20-2008, 07:43 PM 4 doors BLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Z28Wilson 05-20-2008, 07:58 PM Interior and overall style I presume..
I love the Camaro on the outside. The G8 isn't a slouch in the looks department but the Camaro definitely has it beat. I just think the inside of the car is shaping up to be a bit too....gimmicky....for my tastes. And that's the part I'm going to be looking at 90% of the time.
99SilverSS 05-20-2008, 09:51 PM I love the Camaro on the outside. The G8 isn't a slouch in the looks department but the Camaro definitely has it beat. I just think the inside of the car is shaping up to be a bit too....gimmicky....for my tastes. And that's the part I'm going to be looking at 90% of the time.
IMO 2010 Camaro is one of the best looking cars that will be available next year. The G8 isn't far behind.
The interior from what I've seen is one of the more questionable areas of the car. I'll be very interested to see how it looks in production trim. We'll see in Sept.
Guess we're lucky to have the G8 to look to if the Camaro doesn't fit our likes or needs. Heck my father is waiting for the G8 ST.
hyperv6 05-20-2008, 10:10 PM The G8 will appeal top many because of the 4 doors and the Camaro will appeal to many because it is well... a Camaro. If the Camaro was just some other generic coupe with some plain design from Japan it would make a ripple only a Prelude would have. A coupe has to be special today when a sedan only has to be good.
The way I look at it the Camaro and G8 are like a Axe and a Saw both will cut a tree down just in different ways and both will be very popular inspite of the gas prices.
I think the G8 ST will suprise many.
blue 79 Z/28 05-21-2008, 04:35 PM well thanks for some input guys, i for one will be comparing the GXP to a mid level camaro very closely. cant wait to see both production versions.
Capn Pete 05-21-2008, 05:25 PM The G8 obviously has a more "mature" characteristic about it, both in the appearance, category (4-door) and performance.
The Camaro is obviously a little more "in your face" on pretty much all accounts.
PERSONALLY, I'm still in the market for a performance coupe. However, the day I ever start creating offspring (look out! :D) I would seriously consider the G8 :cool:. That way you can have your cake and eat it too ..... performance, style, class, and practicality, all mixed into one :).
But for now, Camaro please! :cz28:
Ray86IROC 05-22-2008, 01:09 AM I'd have both if I was rolling in dough, but for me I want a 2 door performance car right now. I'd trying to decide between the 5thgen and a used Vette, not a G8.
The G8 GXP is definitely hot though, heck even the G8 GT is hot as heck. Just not quite what I want at this stage.
KevinK 05-22-2008, 07:59 AM That G8 is one incredible looking car, ...I placed my vote, ...for the Camaro ;)
JakeRobb 05-22-2008, 08:02 AM I want both! :D
OutsiderIROC-Z 05-22-2008, 08:49 AM Til the G8 comes in a 2 door version, this isn't even a comparison for me.
JakeRobb 05-22-2008, 05:58 PM Til the G8 comes in a 2 door version, this isn't even a comparison for me.
:irk:
If two things are the same, that's when it's difficult to compare.
What differences, aside from simple styling stuff, would you expect between a G8 Coupe and a Camaro?
guionM 05-22-2008, 06:12 PM I'm not sure why this is a poll, and here's why.
First, the obvious. We're comparing a large 4 door sedan with a sports coupe.
Second, we're talking about 2 very different demographics. The G8's customer base is going to be older and more establ,ished than Camaro's, which will tend to be much younger and at the start of their careers.
Third, there's price. The G8 (much like the old Thunderbird Supercoupe and the last GTO) will tend to attract older people who are very much into sophisticated performance and are likely to know quite a bit about their cars. They tend to want something comfortable and somewhat luxurious as well as quick and very well handling. G8 starts at $27K, Camaro will start around 20.
Even though I would consider both if I was buying a car today, and both were available today, the final decision would be on what I'm going to use the car for over what a preference is. If I need 4 doors and plan to cover long distances, the G8 GT wins hands down. If I intend to carve up Highway 1 on weekly trips for 1 or 2 down to Big Sur or Santa Barbera from San Fran, then Camaro might edge the G8 out.
my94blackz 05-22-2008, 06:16 PM Til the G8 comes in a 2 door version, this isn't even a comparison for me.
It did, it was called a GTO
5thgen69camaro 05-22-2008, 07:19 PM I'm not sure why this is a poll, and here's why.
First, the obvious. We're comparing a large 4 door sedan with a sports coupe.
Second, we're talking about 2 very different demographics. The G8's customer base is going to be older and more establ,ished than Camaro's, which will tend to be much younger and at the start of their careers.
Third, there's price. The G8 (much like the old Thunderbird Supercoupe and the last GTO) will tend to attract older people who are very much into sophisticated performance and are likely to know quite a bit about their cars. They tend to want something comfortable and somewhat luxurious as well as quick and very well handling. G8 starts at $27K, Camaro will start around 20.
Even though I would consider both if I was buying a car today, and both were available today, the final decision would be on what I'm going to use the car for over what a preference is. If I need 4 doors and plan to cover long distances, the G8 GT wins hands down. If I intend to carve up Highway 1 on weekly trips for 1 or 2 down to Big Sur or Santa Barbera from San Fran, then Camaro might edge the G8 out.
All excellent points Guy and I agree with you on alot but not that this should not be a poll. You yourself said that you would cross shop the two. blue 79 Z/28 said that he was cross shopping the two. I would as well if I wasnt so Camaro biased. They overlap yeah, but its a healthy overlap. Differentiated as you and others pointed out in this thread. Those differences doesnt mean that we including you as you mentioned cant cross shop them within the same company. Also because we cross shop them that doesnt make one or the other irrelevant as they are differentiated enough.
This isnt directed at any one person, but I get a kick out of people telling other people that noone is going to cross shop two vehicles because of their perspective of what OTHER people are ALLOWED to cross shop. The most irritating one was when I started a thread that my brother WAS cross shoping the G8 and 335i. The thread was pepered that BMW owners were yuppies with no regaurd for how much money they spent. That someone considering a G8 couldnt possibly afford BMW and therefore it shouldnt have been a poll. All of the posts either ignored or didnt believe that the thread started with my brother actually considering and still considering both.
:irk:
If two things are the same, that's when it's difficult to compare.
What differences, aside from simple styling stuff, would you expect between a G8 Coupe and a Camaro?
I could be wrong but I think he was saying that for him personally hes looking for a 2dr Camaro type car and therefore wouldnt even consider the sedan :lol:
polo3433 05-22-2008, 07:22 PM If these gas prices keep going the way they are its going to be a poll between a smart car and a moped. :D
I would have to say CAMARO. It's an American Icon:usa:
Evil Turbo SS 06-10-2008, 07:09 PM All excellent points Guy and I agree with you on alot but not that this should not be a poll. You yourself said that you would cross shop the two. blue 79 Z/28 said that he was cross shopping the two. I would as well if I wasnt so Camaro biased. They overlap yeah, but its a healthy overlap. Differentiated as you and others pointed out in this thread. Those differences doesnt mean that we including you as you mentioned cant cross shop them within the same company. Also because we cross shop them that doesnt make one or the other irrelevant as they are differentiated enough.
This isnt directed at any one person, but I get a kick out of people telling other people that noone is going to cross shop two vehicles because of their perspective of what OTHER people are ALLOWED to cross shop. The most irritating one was when I started a thread that my brother WAS cross shoping the G8 and 335i. The thread was pepered that BMW owners were yuppies with no regaurd for how much money they spent. That someone considering a G8 couldnt possibly afford BMW and therefore it shouldnt have been a poll. All of the posts either ignored or didnt believe that the thread started with my brother actually considering and still considering both.
I could be wrong but I think he was saying that for him personally hes looking for a 2dr Camaro type car and therefore wouldnt even consider the sedan :lol:
I was looking at a G8 and a BMW 335i. I chose the BMW but it was a hard choice for me. I will be in the market for another "Toy" car in a year or 2. If I didnt have the 335i sedan I would be cross shopping a G8 GXP and Camaro. But I have a sporty sedan for every day. Ill be going with the Camaro or maybe the BMW Z4 Coupe if it gets the same TT I6 that the 335i has.(its a rumor)
I was also looking at the 335i in Sedan and Coupe form. The Better price and added utility of the Sedan is why I chose 4 doors over 2.
detroitboy 06-10-2008, 11:34 PM Most of the foreign cars burn premium....good luck!
TrickStang37 06-11-2008, 01:06 AM Most of the foreign cars burn premium....good luck!
+1
especially since the cost of about $150 a year is too steep of a price to pay when it comes to regular vs. premium.
flowmotion 06-11-2008, 01:35 AM My question is Camaro or CTS Coupe.
I'm thinking that given the equipment level the price difference might not be so great here. (edit: for the V6 that is)
5thgen69camaro 06-11-2008, 09:23 PM I was looking at a G8 and a BMW 335i. I chose the BMW but it was a hard choice for me. I will be in the market for another "Toy" car in a year or 2. If I didnt have the 335i sedan I would be cross shopping a G8 GXP and Camaro. But I have a sporty sedan for every day. Ill be going with the Camaro or maybe the BMW Z4 Coupe if it gets the same TT I6 that the 335i has.(its a rumor)
I was also looking at the 335i in Sedan and Coupe form. The Better price and added utility of the Sedan is why I chose 4 doors over 2.
Yeah I think the 335i sedan will be what my brother opts for eventually for many reasons you mentioned. Other determining factors probably will be 3 series size and performance. I think BMW reliability from what Ive heard falls short tho. Its the G8 performance, LS reliability, and perceived build quality that put it in the running.
More important things have come up though like he just got married. Well see.
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