June Issue of Motor Trend....

Anyone get the June Motor Trend yet? The 2010 Camaro is the #1 Gotta Have Car of 2009 :D . I'll try to scan and upload pics ASAP.

HURRY UP!!! I better stop by the grocery store...:leaving::burnout:

Thats a thumbnail, not the large size pic.

try using this
http://thumb0.webshots.net/t/66/666/8/41/73/2931841730059060340JkagBe_fs.jpg

Ok, sorry about the earlier post with just the thumbs

http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/8213/2502517940059060340S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2502517940059060340FPBHro)

http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/41405/2931841730059060340S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2931841730059060340JkagBe)

still can't see :bang: ..........

it's nice to see it FINALLY get some love in the car mags...car and driver supposedly left it off the "top 25 gotta have cars" for next year.:rolleyes:

Motor Trends #1 Gotta Have Car of 2009...GREAT, there goes the dealer mark-ups.:cry:

Uh-oh, Motor trend puts the SS as the top dog.

Nice bowtie chops.

They need to have added this :notheadlights: in BOLD letters under the pic. I'm sure the masses will be wondering why the headlights are not like the concept and since MT went and finshed some other details about the car it will look even more odd.
Scott has to be pulling his hair out.

Uh-oh, Motor trend puts the SS as the top dog.

Nice bowtie chops.

Nice bowtie chops.

Uh-oh, Motor trend puts the SS as the top dog.Which means that it is guaranteed the Z28 will be top dog. :lol:

They need to have added this :notheadlights: in BOLD letters under the pic. I'm sure the masses will be wondering why the headlights are not like the concept and since MT went and finshed some other details about the car it will look even more odd.
Scott has to be pulling his hair out.


well - go here and you'll see that I don't have that much hair left to pull out!!!

(who IS that fat guy with the bald spot and big nose???)

http://www.greenrightnow.com/GMhybrids.php

Seeing a former Camaro manager talking about all those gas efficient vehicles was kinda funny heheh. I really wonder how long the Camaro has as a regular gas V8 car.

Don't like the bowties on it or the top model nonSSense!

well - go here and you'll see that I don't have that much hair left to pull out!!!

(who IS that fat guy with the bald spot and big nose???)

http://www.greenrightnow.com/GMhybrids.php

:lol: Hey that guy looks familiar... he looks like a GM employee I knew from Detroit who smoked quite a bit.... ;) But I dunno that guy was more into Camaro's than green machines!

They need to have added this :notheadlights: in BOLD letters under the pic.

I really don't think the general public is nearly the detail mongers the internet car community is. I'm sure they'll look at the pic and think the car is badass, not "Oh me oh my, look at those headlights...."

Or they'll expect those headlights only to see something different when the production car comes out.

I really don't think the general public is nearly the detail mongers the internet car community is. I'm sure they'll look at the pic and think the car is badass, not "Oh me oh my, look at those headlights...."

No but the general public will make a snap judgement. As a car company GM always wants their cars seen in the best light. This pic shows the car unfinished and thus not up to full potential. The same reason why you would probably not want to have visable defects in a home your trying to sell. If judgements or first impressions are to be made you would want them done so on a finished product.

Why is the G8 GXP is expected to almost $10,000 more than the GT model in the motortrend mag? Thats kinda steep for just LS3.

I dont know if this would be the right thread to finally ask this, but hear it goes: What are the chances of hidden headlights being an option?

I dont know if this would be the right thread to finally ask this, but hear it goes: What are the chances of hidden headlights being an option?

0% its not legal and would be expensive to implement.

Why is the G8 GXP is expected to almost $10,000 more than the GT model in the motortrend mag? Thats kinda steep for just LS3.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a lot more than just the LS3. There's differences in the suspension and brakes. Front castor, camber, and toe are adjustable and the rear camber and toe are are adjustable. Coil-over rear suspension. Upgraded anti-roll bars. Brembo 14-inch rotors/4-piston calipers up front and 12.8-inch rotors/single piston calipers in the rear. GXP seats are different from the standard GT seats. Different wheels and front fascia. There's some other, smaller stuff as well. My understanding is the GXP will come pretty much loaded and won't have a whole lot of options other than transmission, tires, and sunroof most likely. I agree $38,000 is a lot of money (to me anyways) but that's still quite a bit less than a new M3 sedan or an M5.

0% its not legal and would be expensive to implement.

Just for my own info, why is it illegal?

Just for my own info, why is it illegal?

I know that pop-ups are illegal in some countries because they are a little harder on pedestrians if you hit one. So it is unlikely that any manufacturer will spend money to design two radically different front clips for the same car.

I think that doors to cover the headlights when they are off should be fairly cheap to implement. And if some markets won’t allow it, the GM only needs to leave out a few pieces and maybe redesign the plastic around the lights to omit the gap for the door.

I think that doors to cover the headlights when they are off should be fairly cheap to implement. And if some markets won’t allow it, the GM only needs to leave out a few pieces and maybe redesign the plastic around the lights to omit the gap for the door.
Expensive. They would have to contract another supplier and make all of the necessary changes to the structure up front and electronics to incorporate it.

You don't understand how much bean counters nitpick this kind of stuff. When I was working for a GM supplier we were able to eliminate one screw from the ~30 in our manufacturing process which came out to a worthwhile savings.

Also, how would that work where DRLs are required? Or with the turn signals in the front which are expected to be located right beside the headlights?

The aftermarket will probably make different grills and hopefully light covers.

The aftermarket will probably make different grills and hopefully light covers.

God I hope so, its such a great look.

Just for my own info, why is it illegal?

I could be wrong, but i think they were made illegal because WAY WAY WAY too many idiots, lazy and / or poor people don't bother to fix them one fails.