Pontiac Announces The 2009 G8 Gxp

2001Firehawk
03-15-2008, 12:56 AM
http://jalopnik.com/367820/2009-pontiac-g8-gxp-revealed-gets-corvette-ls3-power-and-a-manual-transmission

http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/*query?ws4d_nav=true&search_criteria=g8&source=all&page=1

2009 Pontiac G8 GXP Revealed.
Gets Corvette LS3 Power And A Manual TransmissionWow, how prescient were we to know to repeat the prescience of High Performance Pontiac magazine? Hmm, probably about as prescient as they were to have posted on the new 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP to begin with. But we digress as we're now officially able to tell you all the details on "the flagship" of Pontiac's GXP performance series, the G8 GXP. So what makes this four-door the tip-top of the Pontiac pinnacle of performance? How about the 6.2-liter LS3 engine from the 2008 Corvette? No, that doesn't do it for you? How about a manual transmission? Yeah, we thought so. Hit the jump for the full release and all the details.

PONTIAC ANNOUNCES THE 2009 G8 GXP
High-Performance Flagship Combines Progressive Design and Powerful Performance

NEW YORK - Today Pontiac announced the flagship of its GXP performance series, the G8 GXP high-performance sedan, at the New York Auto Show. This 2009 model will join the Solstice, G6 and Torrent GXP models in Pontiac dealerships in late 2008. The G8 GXP takes the G8's responsive driving experience, refined passenger environment and aggressive good looks to a new level. It also delivers an enjoyable driving experience, thanks to a 6.2L V-8 that produces in excess of 400 horsepower.

"More than just raw power, the GXP delivers the sophisticated yet exciting driving experience that enthusiasts expect in a car costing far more than the GXP," said Jim Bunnell, Buick-Pontiac-GMC general manager

Engine performance

The heart of the G8 GXP is the 6.2L LS3 small-block V-8, currently rated at 402 horsepower (300 kW)* and 402 lb.-ft. of torque (546 Nm)* pending final SAE certification. This engine is the newest member of GM's small-block V-8 family. It features a revised, larger-bore cylinder block, high-flow, L92-style cylinder heads; larger-diameter pistons; unique camshaft and camshaft timing; revised valvetrain with offset intake rocker arms; high-flow intake manifold; and high-flow fuel injectors.

The LS3 engine has an aluminum cylinder block with cast-in-place iron cylinder liners. Larger bores help create a 376-cubic-inch displacement. The block casting also features revisions and machining in the bulkheads to enhance its strength and improve bay-to-bay breathing. New pistons were designed for high-rpm performance.

New, high-flow cylinder heads aid engine breathing and are based on the large port and valve design found on the LS7 engine and other GM L76 engines. The larger-capacity, straighter intake port-design optimizes intake flow to the combustion chamber, an effect augmented by large valves, measuring 2.16 inches (55.0 mm) on the intake side and 1.59 inches (40.4 mm) on the exhaust side.

Pending final testing, the G8 GXP is expected to deliver 0-to-60 mph performance of about 4.7 seconds, and a quarter-mile time of 13.0 seconds at 108 mph.

Six on the floor

A new six-speed Tremec TR6060 manual transmission is optional on the G8 GXP. This next-generation manual smoothly transfers the engine's power and torque to the rear wheels with a reduction in shift throw. The transmission features a host of refinements including premium gear synchronizers; stronger gears, housing, and bell housing; a single-piece counter shaft; and machined gear teeth.

The standard Hydra-Matic six-speed 6L80 automatic transmission is technologically advanced and robust. It uses a clutch-to-clutch operation and an integrated 32-bit transmission controller to deliver smooth and precise shifts. The six-speed has a generous 6.04:1 overall ratio that enables a "steep" first-gear. The result is strong launch acceleration along with "tall" overdrive ratios that lower engine rpms for better fuel economy and reduced noise.

A 3.27 final drive ratio comes with automatic-equipped GXPs, and a 3.70 gear is matched with the manual transmission. A limited-slip differential is standard.

High-performance suspension

The G8 GXP rides on the G8's 114.8-inch (2915 mm) wheelbase with wide front ( 62.7 inches / 1,592 mm) and rear ( 63.3 inches / 1,608 mm) tracks. The four-wheel independent suspension is fully adjustable and is tuned for the highest performance in the G8 family. The GXP's ride and handling was developed and validated on racetracks and highways around the world, including the famed Nürburgring racing circuit. It rewards the driver with sharp, immediate responses, as well as a well-balanced road feel during spirited driving.

The suspension employs a MacPherson strut design in the front and a four-link, coil-over-shock design in the rear. A direct-acting front stabilizer bar, decoupled rear stabilizer bar and lateral ball joints on the rear suspension deliver increased lateral stiffness for more responsive handling. The front suspension features fully adjustable caster, camber and toe; the rear suspension has fully adjustable camber and toe, for more precise tuning.

Steering and brakes

The steering rate for the GXP is tuned to provide immediate response with definitive driver feedback. Like the G8 sedan and GT, the GXP's steering box is located ahead of the front axle line for a quicker, more direct feel.

The Brembo braking system matches the GXP's boost in performance with an equivalent increase in stopping power. The system includes 14-inch (355 mm) vented front and 12.76-inch (324 mm) rear disc rotors, with special quad-piston alloy calipers in front. The alloy calipers on the rear brakes have single-piston actuation. The four-wheel disc brake system includes standard anti-lock brakes and traction control.

Wheels and tires

The GXP rides on 19-inch polished aluminum wheels with a special machined face. Performance-oriented summer P245/40R19 tires are standard, and a comparable all-season tire is available. Combined with the suspension and steering enhancements, this setup gives the GXP exceptional cornering grip.

Exterior styling

The G8 GXP exhibits strong Pontiac design cues. A unique front fascia with a lower splitter and a distinctive rear fascia diffuser contribute to its sporty look. The dual-port grille, fog lamps, bold wheels and confident, wheels-at-the-corners stance are all unmistakably Pontiac traits.

Interior amenities and comfort

The G8 GXP's interior is driver-oriented with aesthetic and tactile details like instruments with a sporty appearance that match the car's performance. Interior materials consist of satin and chrome trim and high-quality textured materials throughout. The instrument cluster glows with crisp, white light on the primary instruments. Pontiac's signature red lighting illuminates the rest of the instrument panel cluster.

Standard comfort and convenience amenities include:

* Highly bolstered two-tone sport seats with color-coordinated gauge cluster and GXP embroidery
* Leather-trimmed steering wheel and gear shifter
* Power-adjustable front seats
* Fog lamps
* Alloy sport pedals
* A 230-watt Blaupunkt audio system
* XM Satellite Radio

The seats offer firm support to hold occupants in place during aggressive cornering. The standard heated leather seats were designed to deliver excellent comfort during long drives. They are available in Ebony or an Ebony/Red two-tone.

Safety

Maintaining the G8's tradition of a full suite of standard safety features, the G8 GXP includes:

* Four-wheel disc brakes with ABS and traction control
* Electronic stability control
* Seat-mounted thorax air bags and dual-stage frontal air bags for front passengers, with automatic passenger sensing system
* Roof rail side-impact air bags for both seating rows
* OnStar

crYnOid
03-15-2008, 01:57 AM
G8 GXP = half assed HSV.

WTF is with it having 400hp from the LS3 when HSV are getting 414hp from the LS2?

Slappy3243
03-15-2008, 01:57 AM
Yeah. We have known about this for a while now. I can't wait. One of the few cars I would trade my GTO in for. :cool:

Slappy3243
03-15-2008, 02:00 AM
G8 GXP = half assed HSV.

WTF is with it having 400hp from the LS3 when HSV are getting 414hp from the LS2?

I am sure it is slightly detuned (can use regular gas) from the factory or slightly underrated. The Corvette gets 430 HP from the LS3 so I would be willing to bet that the GXP is about the same. The LS2 in my GTO makes 400HP.

AdioSS
03-15-2008, 03:47 AM
maybe it really does make 430+hp like the Vette like the F-bodies really made the same ~350hp as the LS1 Vette.

flowmotion
03-15-2008, 03:54 AM
Seems kinda weird to announce this when the G8 is just barely hitting the lots.

Derek M
03-15-2008, 09:36 AM
I am sure it is slightly detuned (can use regular gas) from the factory or slightly underrated. The Corvette gets 430 HP from the LS3 so I would be willing to bet that the GXP is about the same. The LS2 in my GTO makes 400HP.

The SAE validation they mention in the release will keep them extremely honest with the power ratings. Thus no major under rating of HP/TQ is possible.

guionM
03-15-2008, 11:11 AM
maybe it really does make 430+hp like the Vette like the F-bodies really made the same ~350hp as the LS1 Vette.

Actually, it was closer to 340 (the F-bod exhaust robbed about 10 horses), but who's counting. ;)

GTOJack
03-15-2008, 11:47 AM
Get the motor to breathe a little better with cold air induction and less restrictive mufflers, a premium fuel tune and BINGO, you'll be right there with the 430hp Vettes.

Caps94ZODG
03-15-2008, 01:05 PM
I was hoping for a more pronounced front end like the HSV front end. But I guess its better than just badging it a GXP and no other mods.

Bob Cosby
03-15-2008, 01:29 PM
Neat! I like it.

FYI....the TR6060 is also used in the GT500 (about the same weight, but with more power & torque), so it should hold up quite well in the GXP.

90 Z28SS
03-15-2008, 01:44 PM
I was hoping for a more pronounced front end like the HSV front end. But I guess its better than just badging it a GXP and no other mods.

Not me , I love the more toned down Pontiac front . The HSV bumper is a bit to over the top for me .

Wowow , I want . HP tuners solves the 400 hp issue in less than an hour :cool:

FiefSS
03-15-2008, 02:50 PM
"It also delivers an enjoyable driving experience, thanks to a 6.2L V-8 that produces in excess of 400 horsepower."

It didn't say just 400hp, so it will probably be just a bit less than than Corvette..

GTOJack
03-15-2008, 02:59 PM
Its rated at 402hp/402tq.

92RS shearn
03-15-2008, 03:07 PM
I wonder what the MSRP will be? I hear many on the net talking over $40k, but I can't imagine it being much over $35k.

99SilverSS
03-15-2008, 03:21 PM
As expected the LS3 will be in the G8 GXP. Many touted the LS3 as too powerful or expensive to be in the G8 and much less Camaro. Why I didn't know.

As for the power rating. We should be used to GM using different ratings on power for the same engine. I'm curious to see if there is actually any difference in parts besides the intake track and exhaust from the 430hp C6.

STOCK1SC
03-15-2008, 03:34 PM
They're trying to price power and not by actual cost. I don't see how the LS3 is any more expensive than the LS2 to produce. GM is just hoping to charge a premium for power, kind of sad we're all excited about a car(G8 GT) that has 40 less hp and 400lb's more weight and restrict it to auto only then charge a premium over it to get us back to where we were with the GTO which was faster, lighter, and was cheaper with a manual(no gas guzzler). I don't get it, why more money for a heavier, slower, same horsepower car we could get 2 years ago for $30k that was much faster?

AnthonyHSV
03-15-2008, 11:29 PM
I wonder why the didnt take the HSV route, doesn't look that much different to the G8 GT. :confused:

dav305z
03-16-2008, 02:18 AM
G8 GXP = half assed HSV.

WTF is with it having 400hp from the LS3 when HSV are getting 414hp from the LS2?

Pontiac underrates the hp in these introductions. They originally announced the Grand Prix GXP as having 290 hp, and it came out with 303.

More to the point...HOLY CRAP! Am I dreaming? This is the car Pontiac has needed for twenty years. It has "only" 400 horsepower and a six speed. That 4.7 0-60 estimate means G8 GXP drivers can forget about the lowly SRT-8 and start revving up next to M5's at the stoplight.

It looks like this car has everything it needs to well, and it looks like it has good advertising as well. Now all we need is for someone to explain basic economics to Pontiac dealers (ie: raising the price reduces demand) and we'll be all set.

Omegalock
03-16-2008, 11:07 AM
SRT-8 are getting more firepower in the next two years as well so I don't think you can look over them JUST yet. Although I'm thinking the LS3 is going to be more mod friendly.

Caps94ZODG
03-16-2008, 11:49 AM
Now all we need is for someone to explain basic economics to Pontiac dealers (ie: raising the price reduces demand) and we'll be all set.
QFTMFT...

no demand if your not selling them.. That is what I don't understand today with these dealers..they want the quick 5-10K for the "market adjustment" or hows this "price gouging"..Now with that if they sold it for near MSRP instead of DS(Rip off)P..then you have the chance of having someone come in for not just this car..but thier next car and theri wifes car and thier kids cars and grow a bond with the dealer and a trust to come back..heck right there thats over 100K in cars alone for one family...yet they gouge for 5-10K on ONE sale..good thinking..
What ever happened to "take care of the customer and they take care of you." ? Still works you know..

SRT-8 are getting more firepower in the next two years as well so I don't think you can look over them JUST yet. Although I'm thinking the LS3 is going to be more mod friendly.

yea with one less SRT model on the books..bye bye Magnum:(
But also whats Chryslers plans with the new goverment regs? they hurt GM and Ford. they must have hurt Mopars SRT program..

FUTURE_OF_GM
03-16-2008, 12:37 PM
The benefit of this over a GTO is simple...

2 more doors.

I would rather have a coupe, as I'm sure many of you would. However, most of the buying public needs a sedan.

I think the GXP will do well and after NOT considering a G8 GT for purchase (because of the staid looks) I think the GXP has probably won me over.

HAZ-Matt
03-16-2008, 10:10 PM
This car is awesome.

Big Als Z
03-16-2008, 10:34 PM
Powerhouse no doubt...no doubt.
Wish they did more to spice up the front, but for once Pontiac is no longer going balls out with its plastic cladding and additional scoops...

430hp would have put it 5hp north of the SRT8 twins, but something tells me that this car will put a few lengths on the Hemi Cousins.
6spd manual too...ohhhhhhh baby. Id venture to say that this will be similar to the SS trim on the Camaro. 14 inch rotors with 4 pistions in front too!!! This sucker is gunna come down reaaaaaaaal fast!
I cannot wait till Weds!!

colin911
03-17-2008, 08:41 PM
I love that they didn't go too crazy with the front end. Looks perfect imo.

cmg06s
03-17-2008, 09:27 PM
wow i never thought gm would have the balls to sell something like this, i want one, possibly more than a new camaro....

yellow_99_gt
03-17-2008, 09:32 PM
Nice I'll probably get one used in 2023.

RussStang
03-17-2008, 09:44 PM
Actually, it was closer to 340 (the F-bod exhaust robbed about 10 horses), but who's counting. ;)

Actually, I would like to see some proof of this statement, because engine dynoes I have been privy to in the past have shown otherwise.

Z28Wilson
03-17-2008, 10:07 PM
Actually, it was closer to 340 (the F-bod exhaust robbed about 10 horses), but who's counting. ;)

I dunno, I dynoed my car at 310 to the rear wheels bone stock. Must be one efficient drivetrain. ;)

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