If you want the V6 to have a manual trans....

....speak up now, or forever hold your peace.

That is all.

i guess i would like the v6 to have a manual trans but i dont really care just as long as the v8 has the manual trans

yes, please.

As much as I like my '06 Cobalt with an auto, its still more fun to drive the '94 V6 with the manual.

(Playing devil's advocate) If the V6 comes with the A6 and paddle shifters, is a manual trans even necessary?

Interestingly, yesterday I was looking at the epa's fuel economy website. (Thinking about picking up a 3rd gen V6 for a daily driver.) In the mid 1980s the A4 version of the V6 got better mpg than the M5. If GM can couple a A6 with "sport mode" why bother with a stick?

I'd say yes.....if they dont ppl looking 4 a v6 mit go w/ a stang or somethin else:eek:...personally im getting the biggest V8 w/ a 6 spd

Interesting question. I almost wonder whether or not manuals would sell better on the base car if you allowed whatever percentage there is true demand for as they probably will sell to a younger demographic that may be more willing to row the gears in everyday life.

That said, if a good A6 is offered I can't see myself buying the manual.

If the auto is two-mode equipped, then no thanks.

If I was getting a V6 then yes it would be manual or another car.
If the camaro wasn't getting a V8 and I was forced to a V6, it would be manual or another car.
If the V6 came in a manual and the V8 didn't I would get a V6 over the V8.
If I was going for the V6 and it didn't come in a manual but the V8 did, I would get the V8 manual.

See the picture I'm painting?

....speak up now, or forever hold your peace.

:think: What do you know?........


And...Yes, I think it should, and I think it will.:shrug:
But the question stands....;)

It has already been confirmed...... the V6 WILL offer a 6 speed manual or 6 speed automatic. No paddle shifters on the automatic for either the V6 or V8.

It has already been confirmed...... the V6 WILL offer a 6 speed manual or 6 speed automatic. No paddle shifters on the automatic for either the V6 or V8.

:irk: Oh, really?? When was this little tidbit confirmed? (The paddle-shifters part)

I wouldn't want a V6 camaro WITHOUT a manual.

It has already been confirmed...... the V6 WILL offer a 6 speed manual or 6 speed automatic. No paddle shifters on the automatic for either the V6 or V8.No tap shift would be completely idiotic.

I'd love it, but I'm not counting out the tap shift either.
They're making big strides where you don't have to lift the throttle at all to shift.
BUT....BUT, they must leave the ability for the driver to have control, upshift or downshift...any rpm...or it'll suck.
(tapshift as in manumatic...not paddles)

:thumb: Want a fun car, not necessarily a fast car.

Most of my cars have been imports w/ manuals, and I'd rather stick my money into a sunroof/leather/nav/etc than a big engine. (Complete heretic, I know.)

somehow I doubt even the V6 Camaro will be a lightweight gas sipper, so I don't really see the point. However, A 6 speed manual V6 should be able to get very good fuel economy. It would get better economy if it weighed less.

somehow I doubt even the V6 Camaro will be a lightweight gas sipper, so I don't really see the point. However, A 6 speed manual V6 should be able to get very good fuel economy. It would get better economy if it weighed less.

If they didn't want to put a V8 in it, it probably would weigh less.

It could be a gas sipper if they wanted it too, but they would have to axe the plans to put in the V8s. I'm pretty sure a 3000lb Corolla weighs that much due to its miniscule powerplant that's maybe half of what an LT1 is. And you people want 430hp on this chassis!

Or I could be wrong, but in any case, the main ideal for this car to be gas friendly is to have a diesel, it'll give you the power you need to move the heavy piece of junk that it is and always will be, and give some decent fuel mileage.

:think: What do you know?........




A faction is pushing for no manual on the V6. Personally, I think that is D_U_M_B.

If they have money for unuseable console "ornaments" and specific front fascias with non-functional "air intakes" - they sure have enough to certify an M6 with the V6.

A camaro with a 300hp V6 and a M6 would be a pretty sweet car. I would drive one.

:thumb: Want a fun car, not necessarily a fast car.

Most of my cars have been imports w/ manuals, and I'd rather stick my money into a sunroof/leather/nav/etc than a big engine. (Complete heretic, I know.)

:banned:

:thumb: Want a fun car, not necessarily a fast car.

A fast car is a fun car.

Until it gets towed by the cops for street racing, leave the fast cars on the track.

:p
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:thumb: Want a fun car, not necessarily a fast car.

Most of my cars have been imports w/ manuals, and I'd rather stick my money into a sunroof/leather/nav/etc than a big engine. (Complete heretic, I know.)

Its a good thing your location isn't listed... you shall live to post another day!! :D

No tap shift would be completely idiotic.

I sort of agree with you...but I say if there's going to be a tap-shift type of mechanism...it should be behind the steering wheel and NOT one where you stick the shifter into a separate gate and bump it up and down (respectively)...I've driven them before...and they are nothing to write home about...if you know what I mean

I sort of agree with you...but I say if there's going to be a tap-shift type of mechanism...it should be behind the steering wheel and NOT one where you stick the shifter into a separate gate and bump it up and down (respectively)...I've driven them before...and they are nothing to write home about...if you know what I meanI see your point. I would like the buttons on the steering wheel and not the separate gate.

Not offering a manual on the V6 would be a mistake.

And an automatic with paddle shifters does not equal a manual transmission.

If I couldn't afford a V8 and the V6 was all I could get, I'd pass by it if there were no manual transmission...


I'd rather have a slow manual car than a fast automatic.

If I were going to purchase a V6 Camaro, then yes I would definitely want to get a stick with it. Mr S. states this will be a fun to drive vehicle. If it doesn't offer a stick, where would the fun be? Only with the 8's?

Any car I own I want it to be a manual. I don't want a paddel shifter. I want my own clutch.

A camaro with a 300hp V6 and a M6 would be a pretty sweet car. I would drive one.

I'd definitely consider one.

The choice on engine and transmission should be independant of each other IMO, unless X transmission isn't rated to hold V8 hp, etc. then all the transmissions that DO qualify should be options.

A faction is pushing for no manual on the V6. Personally, I think that is D_U_M_B.

If they have money for unuseable console "ornaments" and specific front fascias with non-functional "air intakes" - they sure have enough to certify an M6 with the V6.

If I was gonna buy a 300hp v6, and there was no manual option, I wouldn't buy said 300hp v6. Even if the option was dumbass auto paddle shifters. From just a fuel economy standpoint, I would have thought this to be a no brainer. Looks like I was wrong.

Trying to finally make a v6 Camaro an enthusiast car, and than yanking the manual option. There is a lot of irony in there.

Sign me up for a manual. I hope to get a V8, but if that doesn't fit my budget and a V6 does, then I'll get the 6. Either way, I want fully manual tranny. I've had autos and manuals and I think it's a lot more fun to drive a stick, so that's what I want no matter what engine I get.

I would like the option for manual V6. I am personally going to buy the manual V8 with no questions though. There should be no issues with this...what 300hp sports car doesn't have an option for manual transmission? There will be alot of people going for the V6 too, let them choose and don't force anything. Thats my opinion at least...:)

Damn , I cant believe this would be in question . Hell yes their should be a manual trans ...and maybe for once make it not seem like its available just to be available ( a trait many GM cars suffer like the G6 when it had the manual ) . Maybe spend some time making the clutch and shifter feel wonderful , make it feel precise , so you snick snick snick thru the gears with a smile on your face ....as opposed to frown because it feels like your rowing a wet noodle stick with RPMS that hang up waaaaaaay to long when u push the clutch on . I wont be buying a V6 car , but if I were and I couldnt get manual trans ....I wouldnt be buying a Camaro . I can "live" with detail stuff I might not be too happy about , but I cant deal with a dead left leg and right arm while I drive .

Hardly anyone bought the last manual 6 cyl. camaro because it felt like crap ....ditto the G6 with the 6-speed manual . Make the manual trans car not seem like an afterthougth and ya might actually get the stick fans to buy one ;)



accord coupe - manual avail.
altima coupe ...ditto
mustang ....ditto
eclipse ...ditto
:shrug:

A faction is pushing for no manual on the V6. Personally, I think that is D_U_M_B.

Agreed, why hobble what could be a very sporty car with a slushbox as the only option.

....speak up now, or forever hold your peace.

That is all.

A camaro with a 300hp V6 and a M6 would be a pretty sweet car. I would drive one.
Manual trans on a V6, please.

Im hoping for a 4 cylinder and 3 speed automatic........
Just kidding. This is a camaro forum......right?

I'll put it this way, if I had to pass on the V8 for financial reasons, I would sooner buy a Honda Accord EX V6 or Nissan Altima 3.5 SE V6 - BOTH easily available with 6 speed manual transmissions - than buy a Camaro V6 with an automatic.

Yes, that is how much of a stick shift snob I am.

And GM better realize that there are more than a few people out there like me...... people like us generally don't even consider any car or engine option if you cannot get a manual transmission with it.

Our list of cars to shop is short, that's true.

I would definately think a manual would be a must for the V6. Especially since the V6 in question is actually potentially fun. This car needs to at least earn consideration from buyers of 350Z's and so forth, not just besting the Mustang. To do that, it needs a manual, and preferably a nice slick shifting one.

If I can't get a 250 straight six with a Powerglide, then I'm not buying a Camaro. :)

I would definately think a manual would be a must for the V6. Especially since the V6 in question is actually potentially fun. This car needs to at least earn consideration from buyers of 350Z's and so forth, not just besting the Mustang. To do that, it needs a manual, and preferably a nice slick shifting one.+1.

Regardless of engine, I absolutely would not consider an automatic transmission in a Camaro.

I'm most likely to purchase a V8, so I'm not sure how much my opinion counts here.

Note: when I say "automatic transmission," I mean the kind with a torque converter. Automated DCT's are different, and I would absolutely consider a DCT if it were an option.

A faction is pushing for no manual on the V6. Personally, I think that is D_U_M_B.


I gotta agree with you on this one.

And it's not like they have to invent anything .... they already have the manual parked behind the 3.6 in the CTS.

most definitely.. who knows, the v6 might be all the car i can afford, and my next car is going to be a manual, that's guarunteed

Agreed 4ever, how short-sighted can those bean counters be? If all I can afford is a v6, if its not a manual it won't be in my driveway. As was said before, an m6 Camaro with 300 HP would be a fun car to drive, hell if that was a rear wheel figure it'd have damn near as much HP as the vette had stock. Don't screw this up GM! To the 15 headed up to the meet, pass this along!

Im hoping for a 4 cylinder and 3 speed automatic........
Just kidding. This is a camaro forum......right?

Welcome to 1982.




couldn't help it...:)

Paddle shifters or not, a manual version must be offered. Think of what Motortrend will say.

Paddle shifters or not, a manual version must be offered. Think of what Motortrend will say.
To be honest, I don't think it's important what increasingly irrelevant magazines have to say.

What's important is that most sporty coupes, and all "serious" sport coupes, offer a manual in their V6. G37, 350Z, Altima, Accord- all offer a manual/V6 combo even though the vast majority of buyers opt for the auto.

It's going to be hard (IMO) to compete in the sport coupe market if the manual isn't an option.

As evidence to support my position, I give you the Lexus IS350. Despite decent numbers, it's not viewed the same as a G37, and I believe most of that is due to "auto only".

Just my 2% of a dollar.

NOT offering a manual with the 6 would kill the car, no doubt.
(Sports car enthusiasts would laugh, BASE engine without a manual ?!?!)

NOT offering an automatic on the V6 would kill the car, since GM counts on the V6 to be its big seller, as a casual and fun sporty coupe.

What question is there left ?

sorry but i am outraged that anyone at gm would even think about asking -himself- such a question, even worse asking others...

What question is there left ?


There aren't any questions left since the focus group drove a manual trans V6.

It's my understanding that having a manual with the V6 was NEVER an issue.

This from the people actually making this car happen.

Another chicken little scare story? :think:

It will ....... Trust me. :D

Will the V6 get a 5 speed or 6 speed manual (or maybe both)?

It's my understanding that having a manual with the V6 was NEVER an issue.

you won't find me disputing this point. :)

Will the V6 get a 5 speed or 6 speed manual (or maybe both)?

not both

Yes please. 6 speed preferably, with a short shifter from the factory. I really like my Pro-5.

Well, it's official. Six speed auto 6L50 Hydramatic, and six speed manual Aisin Warner AY6.

The spec sheet even has ratios, :thumb:

Would be stupid to not have a v6 with a Manual...


Just coming from someone who had 2 4th gen 5-speed cars. And was in the v6 world alot of people loved the manual + v6. The motor doesn't have power all the time everywhere. A 6-speed manual helps you keep the car in power.

Would be stupid to not have a v6 with a Manual...


Just coming from someone who had 2 4th gen 5-speed cars. And was in the v6 world alot of people loved the manual + v6. The motor doesn't have power all the time everywhere. A 6-speed manual helps you keep the car in power.

Just curious... why did you bump this old (and now obsolete) thread to say that?

Also, a 6-speed auto with paddle shifters should be just as good (if not better, thanks to the torque converter) for keeping the car in the power band as a 6-speed manual.

LOL this forum is slow moving, I just now clicked on the forum page and didn't check the dates, I assumed they were all up to date. :lol:

Have to have the manual if I'm driving a car with 300 horses and more than 4 cylinders.

LOL this forum is slow moving, I just now clicked on the forum page and didn't check the dates, I assumed they were all up to date. :lol:

Yeah, this isn't the lounge. :p

Tell ya what, I think the biggest Faux Pas was no POSI with the V6 Auto.
I know the V6 89 TTA was actually slower with the T56 then the 2004R .
Auto's are WAYYYYYY nicer to drive around town and pull more consitant times at the track. (not to mention my wife and Daughter can't drive them)
I'd want a G92 type option for a V6 RS before I wanted a T56