Chicago Auto Show

FS3800
01-30-2008, 02:44 AM
ok.. layin in bead listening to WGN radio Steve & Johnny show and they got Paul Brian on, i think he's the director of communications or something for the Chicago Auto show...

they were talkin bout the Challenger, mentioned the Camaro coming a year later blah blah blah.... anyway i had the urge to call in

one thing i noticed about the Camaro Concept Show Shedule (http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497784) the message board here is the lack of mentioning of the Chicago Auto show..

so i called in and just wanted to ask a simple question.. will there be a Camaro Concept at the auto show?... well, i never got to talk to the guy.. and was on hold for 10 mins but the .. producer of the show i imagine.. eventially got back to me and said he had asked Paul Brian and was told that my question could not be answered because of an embargo, secrecy that sort of thing... HMMMM

now earlier in the show he had mentioned the GM and specifically Chevy exhibits.. and there was even a caller from GM design studio or something.. while no nameplates were named.. they mentioned that some good stuff was going to be at the Chevy exhibit and i believed the words "high horsepower" were used.

so... Chevy will have some "awesome concepts" with "high horsepower" and he can't tell me if there will be a Camaro Concept at the show or not because of an embargo...

speculation: Z/28 concept?

PS: sorry if my rambling is hard to comprehend.. i'm half asleep here

ChrisL
01-30-2008, 07:32 AM
speculation: Z/28 concept?

unequivocally no Z/28 concept. This year, the ZR1 is the performance highlight in the Chevy display at the big shows.

georgejetson
01-30-2008, 08:25 AM
Wouldn't surprise me if they had something to upstage the Challenger, though.

FS3800
01-30-2008, 10:27 AM
a simple question, will Chevrolet be showing one of the Camaro Concepts at the auto show?

the answer from the producer .. it was during a commercial brake so i assume he went to Paul Brian and told him there was a caller with this question.. anyway the producer said "he said he can't answer that right now cause of .. (i don't know if this was the exact word used) an embargo"...

why the heck couldnt he confirm there was gonna be a Camaro concept there unless there IS going to be a NEW camaro concept there.. because as far as i know, none of the concept cars we know about are going to be there

Chris, when they were talking with the caller from GM Design i got the impression that there was some "very cool" NEW concept cars from chevy, and not long after that "high horsepower" was mentioned

the ZR1 is not new, it was shown at detroit, and it's not a concept

but.. this is all deduction based on what i heard and what the producer told me when i called.. so its all speculation on my part, nothing solid, or proven..

i guess we'll find out when the Chicago Auto Show starts.. but i'm certainly curious now

Black5thgen
01-30-2008, 10:30 AM
I've been asking the question about a camaro at the chicago auto show for a couple monthes and haven't gotten an answer. I just find it hard to believe that they would unveil a new camaro in chicago instead of detroit but you may be on to something to upstage the challenger.

Silverado C-10
01-30-2008, 10:34 AM
The concepts are hand built cars and very expensive to make from what I understand. I can't see the point of building another expensive concept just to show off a "Z-28." I believe the next "new" camaro we'll see at an auto show will be the actual production car... and THEN from the production car I can see GM releasing a Z28 "concept."

Until GM is ready to reveal the production car (supposedly at Indy at the end of the year???) I can't see them spending unnecessary money building more concepts???

That's just me rambling.... but of course, I'd love to be proven wrong and see a "new" concept showcasing some form of Z28 :D

1fastdog
01-30-2008, 11:08 AM
a simple question, will Chevrolet be showing one of the Camaro Concepts at the auto show?



Yes.

Blue ZR1 too..

FS3800
01-30-2008, 12:16 PM
Yes.

Blue ZR1 too..

ok.. then why isnt chicago listed on the concept show schedule?.. Chicago show is from 2/8-2/17

the silver car is going to be in Baltimore 2/7-2/10.. the red push car is going to be in Buffalo 2/6-2/10... and the orange convertable is going to be in Philly 2/2-2/10

we don't know where bumblebee will be between the Super Bowl on 2/3 and 2/23

also.. if it is just one of the concepts we already know about, then why would this guy not be able to say because of a secrecy agreement or whatever?.. why be so secret if it's something we already know about?

CaminoLS6
01-30-2008, 12:21 PM
I heard about a little something but have no idea when/where/if it will show up.

If it's what I'm thinking, it wouldn't really be a concept nor a production car. Think "what if toy". You know, something that might show up at Woodward - an engineering exercise.

1fastdog
01-30-2008, 12:27 PM
ok.. then why isnt chicago listed on the concept show schedule?.. Chicago show is from 2/8-2/17

the silver car is going to be in Baltimore 2/7-2/10.. the red push car is going to be in Buffalo 2/6-2/10... and the orange convertable is going to be in Philly 2/2-2/10

we don't know where bumblebee will be between the Super Bowl on 2/3 and 2/23

also.. if it is just one of the concepts we already know about, then why would this guy not be able to say because of a secrecy agreement or whatever?.. why be so secret if it's something we already know about?

I don't know why "this guy" couldn't answer your question... Maybe it's a "secrecy agreement" thing or a "Hell I don't know" make up an answer thing ... I can't address what someone I don't know says.

There's more than one Bumblebee... maybe that's part of the answer you are looking for?;)

AFAIK, I am telling you what's slated to be there. We will certainly know a week from thursday. I think you will find I'm right on this.;)

Fbodfather
01-30-2008, 12:32 PM
The Bumblebee from Detroit will be in Chicago.

FS3800
01-30-2008, 12:33 PM
I don't know why "this guy" couldn't answer your question... Maybe it's a "secrecy agreement" thing or a "Hell I don't know" make up an answer thing ... I can't address what someone I don't know says.

There's more than one Bumblebee... maybe that's part of the answer you are looking for?;)

AFAIK, I am telling you what's slated to be there. We will certainly know a week from thursday. I think you will find I'm right on this.;)


well "this guy" Paul Brian knew what he was talking about as far as i could tell on the radio show.. he was just a "guy".. clearly he knew his stuff about what was going on at the auto show.. Director of Communications for the Chicago Auto Show is what he was.. i wouldnt have bothered attempting to call in if i hadnt been listening to him for a while to hear if he could possibly know.. and if he told the producer that he couldnt answer my question becauseof some secrecy type deal.. i believe him.. i don't think he just didnt know the answer.. i believe he knew and just couldnt say for fear of black suburbans taking him away

1fastdog
01-30-2008, 12:35 PM
The Bumblebee from Detroit will be in Chicago.

It's absolutely beautiful, too!:bow:

FiefSS
01-30-2008, 12:41 PM
Thanks for answering that! I was gonna be a bit disappointed if there was no Camaro at the show at all.

1fastdog
01-30-2008, 12:42 PM
well "this guy" Paul Brian knew what he was talking about as far as i could tell on the radio show.. he was just a "guy".. clearly he knew his stuff about what was going on at the auto show.. Director of Communications for the Chicago Auto Show is what he was.. i wouldnt have bothered attempting to call in if i hadnt been listening to him for a while to hear if he could possibly know.. and if he told the producer that he couldnt answer my question becauseof some secrecy type deal.. i believe him.. i don't think he just didnt know the answer.. i believe he knew and just couldnt say for fear of black suburbans taking him away

I'm sure he's a great guy and a gentleman and a scholar. I have no doubt he was answering as best he could, or as he was instructed.

As I said, I can't explain what he said, because I don't know the situation.

My answer is based on what I know and I hope you will come to the show and see all you want to see.

I believe folks appreciate accuracy. They deserve it.

My intent isn't to give you a hard time. I'm answering your question accurately. You deserve it.:cool:

FS3800
01-30-2008, 12:48 PM
The Bumblebee from Detroit will be in Chicago.

thanks for answering that.. im a bit dissapointed and confused as to why the Director of Communications for the Chicago Auto Show wasnt allowed to tell me that..

i'm glad that Bumblebee will be there though, i have yet to see the Concept UP CLOSE .. closest i have been is maybe 20ft away catching glimpses over and between peoples heads..

Noth'nLikeaSmBlock
01-30-2008, 02:25 PM
The Bumblebee from Detroit will be in Chicago.

thanks for answering that.. im a bit dissapointed and confused as to why the Director of Communications for the Chicago Auto Show wasnt allowed to tell me that..

i'm glad that Bumblebee will be there though, i have yet to see the Concept UP CLOSE .. closest i have been is maybe 20ft away catching glimpses over and between peoples heads..

Now I'm a little confused...
Was Bumblebee's attendance at Chicago previously unnanounced?
I remember the Fbodfather specifically stating no production version at NAIAS, but did he also say no production version at Chicago? Because... Scott your post which is quoted above really doesn't put an end to the speculation of this thread!

I seriously doubt that the high-end model would be shown so long before its brought to market.

Silverado C-10
01-30-2008, 02:32 PM
so i called in and just wanted to ask a simple question.. will there be a Camaro Concept at the auto show?... well, i never got to talk to the guy.. and was on hold for 10 mins but the .. producer of the show i imagine.. eventially got back to me and said he had asked Paul Brian and was told that my question could not be answered because of an embargo, secrecy that sort of thing... HMMMM


I think I found your car "embargo"... from the Automotive section...

By: Mike Levine Posted: 01-25-07 07:40 PT
© 2007 PickupTruck.com

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Start packing the car truck, we're leaving today - to grab a front row seat at the New York Auto Show for General Motors’ press conference.

Very reliable sources have told PickupTruck.com that the production Pontiac G8 ST (Sport Truck), based on Holden's VE Ute, will bow in the Big Apple in late March during the NY Auto Show’s media days. WO0t!

The decision to move forward with the G8 ST was made even though there are still lingering concerns inside GM about the exchange rate between the Australian and U.S. dollars. If the U.S. dollar had continued to weaken against the Aussie buck recently, the price for the imported Ute would have been too high for the market.

This news follows GoAuto.com’s Lutzian scoop last week that a four-door GMC-badged ‘Crewman’ Ute concept would also appear at the NY Auto Show. Now, other online sources are reporting that the GMC pickup concept will instead appear at the Chicago Auto Show early next month. We’ll keep our pens sheathed on that point. There’s an embargo, dontcha know.

Last year our sources also gave us the official name of the Pontiac G8 ST and news that only a 361-hp V8 would be offered, starting at $31,000 USD. The name remains the same but a lower-priced 256-hp V6 version of the ST will also be available.

Here’s why.

The recently cancelled Pontiac G8 version of Holden's VE Sportwagon was only going to be available with a V6 for CAFE reasons, to offset the G8 ST’s V8 fuel economy rating. But with the wagon gone, the Ute will have to average out CAFE on its own. Hence, the V6 has been added. Good news for G8 ST owners looking for a cheaper Ute to park in their driveways.

I don't know why there would be an "Embargo" on it..... :shrug:

Noth'nLikeaSmBlock
01-30-2008, 02:37 PM
I went back and found Scott's post about NAIAS because I couldn't rememeber if he denied one for the entire auto show season or just NAIAS.

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4991305#post4991305

91Z28350
01-30-2008, 02:41 PM
Yes.

Blue ZR1 too..

So will you be there on Saturday the 8th of February? Would love the chance to meet some fellow CZ28 members.

Black5thgen
01-30-2008, 05:22 PM
I'll probably be up there on saturday

1fastdog
01-30-2008, 05:50 PM
So will you be there on Saturday the 8th of February? Would love the chance to meet some fellow CZ28 members.

Yep. I'll be there.

Fbodfather
01-30-2008, 10:08 PM
thanks for answering that.. im a bit dissapointed and confused as to why the Director of Communications for the Chicago Auto Show wasnt allowed to tell me that..

i'm glad that Bumblebee will be there though, i have yet to see the Concept UP CLOSE .. closest i have been is maybe 20ft away catching glimpses over and between peoples heads..


There wasn't anything to prevent him from telling you that.....

Perhaps he didn't want to say "I don't know!"

:confused: