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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Electric 2008 Mustang has 2000ft-lbs. torque

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/12...-can-be-yours/

The all-electric Shelby Cobra 427 we were just introduced to by Michael Kadie was not the only ridiculously awesome EV available for pictures at the EVS23 showroom floor. At the end of the video about the Cobra, we moved over to a bright red electric Mustang. Here, now, is that video, with Edward Riggs Monfort describing what has been changed in the Mustang Ronaele 300e. Kadie worked on the 300e, too, but the car is really more of Monfort's thing. And you can see the enthusiasm on his face as he tells AutoblogGreen about the ride (even though it was probably the 100th time he ran through the details during the symposium).

Ronale has been selling tuned gasoline Mustangs for the past two years and Monfort said the electric version will be ready for customers within the next few months. The 300e is the precursor to the 600e, a more powerful all-electric Mustang that will have more than 2,000 ft. lbs of torque. All that power will give the 600e the power to pull two horizontal Gs, Kadie says. The 300e's top speed is going to be around 150 mph, but the ratios can be changed to bump it to over 200. A full charge in the 300e will give you 100 miles (a dual battery pack will, unsurprisingly, double that). Solid.

So, how do you get one of these? Bring your own car and pay $80,000 for the EV conversion and the Ronaele styling package. The nice thing, Monfort says (and he's right) is that you'll be in a timeless machine. In 20 years, the style will still look good on the street, he said. We didn't talk about the shape the batteries will be in in two decades, but by then you will probably be able to pop on down to the corner store for a new pack, no? We can hope.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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100 mile range? At $80k plus the price of the car, I'd rather have a Tesla.
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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If I was filthy rich I'd do it just for the kick of it.
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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100 mile range? At $80k plus the price of the car, I'd rather have a Tesla.
Me too, but just imagine in another 10-15 year when battery and fuel cell technology is a lot better and cheaper. Muscle Car wars part 3 will be with eclectic.
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Me too, but just imagine in another 10-15 year when battery and fuel cell technology is a lot better and cheaper. Muscle Car wars part 3 will be with eclectic.
Why wait 10-15 more years? It seems it would be easier to develop a twin-turbo version of the new Duramax 4.5L V8 and run it on biodiesel.
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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Its a cool idea. I forgot the name of the show, but it was one of those fab shops that took an old muscle car and put in all of these battery packs and raced it on the dragstrip. I forgot the times, but for an electric car it sure made some impressive numbers. I guess if you had the money, it would be cool to do.
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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This is actually cool news. Because this could potentially be a new form of aftermarket. Retro-fitting older, fuel-powered cars with an electric drivetrain....AWESOME!! In some time, the prices will go down, and the range will go up - you watch!

2 G's...damn......
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragoneye
This is actually cool news. Because this could potentially be a new form of aftermarket. Retro-fitting older, fuel-powered cars with an electric drivetrain....AWESOME!! In some time, the prices will go down, and the range will go up - you watch!

2 G's...damn......
Its nothing new. Guys have been retrofitting fuel-powered cars for years.
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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The numbers are all estimates. I hate to be a jerk or **** retentive - but how does one model with twice the power and twice the range have the same charging time?

2g's is in a slide, so not that impressive. Sounds nice on paper when you leave it to the average reader though.

How much does this weigh? The Tesla has 900lb of weight in batteries. That much with a 600hp/2000tq motor in a Mustang could tip in at 4500lb or more.

110mi range and 200mi range "depending on driving style". 110mi depending on range might be the same as the plug-in Vue's 60 miles. You've got a sportscar, so it might be less than that (cause you're going to play).

I'm glad there are companies doing this sort of work - but I'm hard to impress when it comes to converting a car to all electric. The Tesla took a lot of reading to win me over - and there is a lot of info out there on that car. It does go to show though, that eventually, stuff like this can (and will) come from the manufacturer.
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Originally Posted by 2000GTP
Its a cool idea. I forgot the name of the show, but it was one of those fab shops that took an old muscle car and put in all of these battery packs and raced it on the dragstrip. I forgot the times, but for an electric car it sure made some impressive numbers. I guess if you had the money, it would be cool to do.
As I said... nothing new
http://www.nedra.com/

The National Electric Drag Racing Association has been around for over 10 years.
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Ok now this is impressive...
http://www.currenteliminator.net/

7.956 seconds at 159.85 miles per hour in the 1/4 mile in an electric dragster. Impressive? No I'm talking about the size/weight of the battery packs... (Scroll down.)
http://www.teva2.com/BerubeRecord.html

These nano-batteries sound pretty cool.
http://www.b2i.us/profiles/investor/...6&Category=987
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Why again is torque impressive? I can stand on a 15-foot-long lever and get more 2000 lb-ft - and at 0 RPM!

Anyways, the laws of physics allow for damn fast electric vehicles. The real pisser is trying to get any sort of reasonable range from them. The nice thing with electric motor systems is that there's minimal efficiency penalty for over-sizing things from a power standpoint (within reason) - it's mostly a matter of cost.
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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where is the torque measured?

a 300 ft lb engine going through a 3.0 first gear and 3.00 rear gears would be 2700 ft lbs of torque, no?
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Bryant
Why again is torque impressive? I can stand on a 15-foot-long lever and get more 2000 lb-ft - and at 0 RPM!
Actually I was referring to the battery cells.
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Bryant
Why again is torque impressive? I can stand on a 15-foot-long lever and get more 2000 lb-ft - and at 0 RPM!
It isn't. Seems like high torque numbers are usually used to make something that will be slow sound fast. Diesels have been doing it for decades now.



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