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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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tooling at Oshawa yes or no !!!!!!!

anybody no about how the tooling process is coming along in
Oshawa, i cant believe nobody no whats going on. weres scott
he must have some tidbits for us. hes gotto no more than
we do. the forum is the same old stuff over and over....
Go Dodge .. ha ha ha
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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There was a statement on our local radio that GM had cancelled production of all rear drives in Oshawa a few days ago due to new fuel economy mandates and lack of demand.

Havn't heard anything since that statement.

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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That didn't include Camaro though.
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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That didn't include Camaro though.
Actually the statement was rear drive platform slated for 2009 2010 production, not sure but it's all open to speculation the camaro and impala where sharing the same platform and flex assembly line so no impala no camaro.

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by john35thss
Actually the statement was rear drive platform slated for 2009 2010 production, not sure but it's all open to speculation the camaro and impala where sharing the same platform and flex assembly line so no impala no camaro.

John
Please! Camaro is coming. It has not been killed off. Do not even begin to start this rumor.
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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heres a link to the aricle:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...tories&s_name=

GM committed to Oshawa plant, CAW president says
Updated Thu. Jan. 24 2008 10:24 AM ET

toronto.ctv.ca

Canadian Auto Workers president Buzz Hargrove says he is concerned about a report that General Motors has scrapped plans to build some rear-wheel-drive cars at its giant plant in Oshawa, Ont.

Such a move could threaten thousands of jobs and the long-term future of the largest vehicle assembly plant in Canada, industry sources told The Globe and Mail.

The sources said the automaker has decided to axe production of the rear-wheel-drive version of the Chevrolet Impala, which was scheduled to represent half the output of a leading-edge flexible assembly plant now under construction in Oshawa.

Production of rear-wheel-drive Cadillac and Buick sedans originally slated for Oshawa will now be shifted instead to Lansing, Mich., the sources added.

Hargrove says he hasn't yet received any official confirmation of any revised plan.

"If General Motors has made a decision not to build rear-wheel-drive vehicles in Oshawa, they haven't informed us," Hargrove told CTV.ca on Thursday.

"Would we would be surprised if the move was made now? No, given the new (fuel economy) law in the United States."

Hargrove says the new U.S. legislation requires automakers to build vehicles that reach an average of 35 miles per gallon (6.7 litres per 100 kilometres) by 2020.

He added details of the proposed Cadillac and Buick productions had not yet been finalized.

While Hargrove said he was concerned about the report, he remains optimistic that new work will retain jobs.

"There's an obligation on the part of General Motors to put new product in there," he said. "What that will be, we don't know."

Hargrove said GM has injected $2.5 billion into the Oshawa plant for new production. The Ontario government has given $235 million for the cause, while the federal government under Paul Martin handed over $200 million when the Beacon project was announced in 2005.

GM has confirmed that production of a new rear-wheel-drive Chevrolet Camaro muscle car will begin in Oshawa this year.

Thursday's report comes as GM is preparing for contract talks with the Canadian Auto Workers union this summer.
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by john35thss
There was a statement on our local radio that GM had cancelled production of all rear drives in Oshawa a few days ago due to new fuel economy mandates and lack of demand.

Havn't heard anything since that statement.

John
The local radio station's reporter needs to go back and finish his or her course in journalism. ALL rear wheel drive cars?!?... I don't think so! The new CAFE requirements may be throwing a monkey wrench into some plans - but definitely not the plans for the Camaro.
Which radio station was that, BTW? A Kitchener/Guelph/Hamilton station, CHAY, or a Toronto station? I'd love to give them a call and speak to the news director there...

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Heard it on 680 news, don't understand why GM is so FOS on the camaro subject first it's 08 than 09 now 2010 by the time they build it there really will be absolutely no market for it other than us diehards.

John
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by john35thss
Heard it on 680 news, don't understand why GM is so FOS on the camaro subject first it's 08 than 09 now 2010 by the time they build it there really will be absolutely no market for it other than us diehards.
I must have missed GM saying the car would be an '08.

It has always been late 2008 production start as a 2010 model. Nothing has changed.

EDIT: Meant to say late 2008/early 2009.

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by john35thss
There was a statement on our local radio that GM had cancelled production of all rear drives in Oshawa a few days ago due to new fuel economy mandates and lack of demand.

Havn't heard anything since that statement.

John
Originally Posted by john35thss
Heard it on 680 news, don't understand why GM is so FOS on the camaro subject first it's 08 than 09 now 2010 by the time they build it there really will be absolutely no market for it other than us diehards.

John
Thank you. I will try and make that call tomorrow to clarify...

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
I must have missed GM saying the car would be an '08.

It has always been late 2009 production start as a 2010 model. Nothing has changed.
The title of this forum was originally 2008 chevrolet camaro now its 2010 chevrolet camaro, the original rumours of production resuming started in 2006.

I have been following this a long time and listening to all my corvette owning friends talking about the new camaro thats coming to devalue my current car's every year.

Chrysler has filled all the vacant lots around here with thousands of V8 powered cars they cannot sell so they don't ship them and the local ford dealers can't even give mustangs away, so why is it so difficult to believe GM will build a car with no market other than a few loyal 30 to 40 year old's.

John
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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The thread starter is obviously having message board comprehension issues. ZRATER, you already posted a thread calling out Scott in your own illiterate way. And he answered. Why don't you continue your discourse in that thread rather than cluttering up the board with multiple threads??

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by john35thss
.... so why is it so difficult to believe GM will build a car with no market other than a few loyal 30 to 40 year old's.
Hey! I'm one of the 20's somethings that will be buying the car that I couldn't afford because the choice was to buy a car or college. Being an accountant, the pratical side of the brain (and thanks to my father) won for the time being...

I really look forward to this car hit the roads again wit me behind the wheel! I was pumped last year after seeing the Silver Coupe at the Philly Auto Show and I'll get to see the vert on saturday.
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by john35thss
The title of this forum was originally 2008 chevrolet camaro now its 2010 chevrolet camaro, the original rumours of production resuming started in 2006.
true.. but thats not GM making any changes.. back in August 2006 when GM announced they were gonna make the camaro, they said production starts 4th quarter 2008, goes on sale 1st quarter 2009.. that hasnt changed..
to this point i don't think GM has said what the model year is going to be.. and that's been all speculation by people up until recently when its pretty much been confirmed it'll be a 2010, though not officially confirmed

so yeah, some people not working for GM assumed it would be 2008, then assumed it would be 2009, then got good info that it would be a 2010.. all the while, actual production timeline did not change
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 06:01 AM
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heh i dont mean to start rumors.. but someone posted this as a comment to an autoblog article.. i think it's BS cause i havent heard anything remotely close on these boards...

I spent some time with a lower-level GM exec this past summer and the reason, according to him, the Camaro is past due for everything is because the prototypes are pieces of sh*t. He says a new manufacturing process is being introduced for the new Camaro and the results are not good. He fears GM may have another mistake on it's hands if the process isn't tightened up A LOT between now and actual production. Crazy that GM is gambling both process and product, but these are hard times in the auto industry and you have to hope GM is learning from it's previous decades worth of mistakes.



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