Why can't the Camaro interior take cues from this one...

http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/2009CadillacCTSVPress/1000442405?viewSize=thumb1280x1280

This interior is magnificent! GM hit a home run with this one. HOT.



Look at the gauge cluster and steering wheel. The nav isn't practical, I know, but looking down lower at the console/climate controls.

I'm not saying copy it 100% because that would be impossible for what the car is going to cost, but jeez, THIS is the styling people want now..... not that retro garbage i'm seeing.

at least take the tach and speedo from that car

I disagree completely. That's a fine interior design, for a Cadillac CTS. But interiors like that cost REAL $$ to produce and sell. And if you are referring only to the 'theme' or style - again that is out of place on a value performance coupe like the Camaro. Especially the elegant analog clock :o

I disagree completely. That's a fine interior design, for a Cadillac CTS. But interiors like that cost REAL $$ to produce and sell. And if you are referring only to the 'theme' or style - again that is out of place on a value performance coupe like the Camaro. Especially the elegant analog clock :o


I'm referring to the general styling theme. Yes, the clock can go. I know it is impossible to duplicate this 100% because of costs. That's not where i'm going.

Look at the gauges, steering wheel and the console controls. Take those design cues.

i think the camaro should have those cts tach and speedo the c6 center nav and everything with the 4 guages infront of the shifter

I'm referring to the general styling theme. Yes, the clock can go. I know it is impossible to duplicate this 100% because of costs. That's not where i'm going.

Look at the gauges and the console controls. Take those design cues.
Gauges - look nice but how would you inject any 'Camaro DNA' into them? Console controls - good luck finding a value-priced RWD IRS V8 coupe with nice little dual HVAC temp readouts and buttons on each side of the console... again a pricing/content issue. OF COURSE luxury interiors are nicer. They COST MORE.

the speedo and tach on the camaro are fine i think

they are fine im just throwing some opionions out there
it dosent matter what they look like for me bc im getting it no matter what they look like :D

Gauges - look nice but how would you inject any 'Camaro DNA' into them? Console controls - good luck finding a value-priced RWD IRS V8 coupe with nice little dual HVAC temp readouts and buttons on each side of the console... again a pricing/content issue. OF COURSE luxury interiors are nicer. They COST MORE.

'Camaro DNA'? Give me a break.

We need something that will cater to the general public. Something nice and modern. 16 year old Jessica doesn't give a damn about 'Camaro DNA'.

If the 3rd and 4th gen interiors are 'Camaro DNA', you can keep it.

As for console controls, again, i'm not saying duplicate them 100%. It's impossible for this car. Integrate them into one unit. Stick with the theme, but simplify it out for the Camaro.

Camaro doesn't really need dual zone climate, nav and telephone integration, or whatever else. Get rid of the clock and radio controls next to it. Integrate it with a more generic unit below and give it a good sized mono-color LCD unit....etc....

Ditch the nav unit in that pic. Replace the leather with vinyl.

And for the love of god, ditch that 'Camaro DNA' filled steering wheel. Give it a Impala wheel or something. Anything is an improvement.

well a HUD fixes all interior problems :P

I don't think this is all about Camaro DNA, or giving a thoroughly 'modern' interior. But a balance - and injecting a little uniqueness into it. Whether you like it or not - can you argue that this interior is not unique compared to today's interiors??

That is the key to it all. Uniqueness - while blending some of yesteryear's heritage into it.

And regarding the OP....why not? Because it's a Cadillac. That's all there is to it. - and FWIW (even though us 'fanboys' don't seem to merit much value around here) that doesn't look very sport-car-ish.......

It all comes down to cost as the CTS is going to be near $60,000 so you have a little more room to do things not possible in the under $30,000 range.

Second lest wait till we don't have shaky Phone Camra pictures and see what the end product looks like.

Few expected much of the new Malibu interior till we got the real thing. Now it is claimed to be one of the best Interiors Chevy has had in a long time.

Whie styling may be subjective the material will not be. I am sure the quality will be much elivated over the last two gens of Camaro as all of GM is imporving in this area.

Put your hand over the airbag and that interior could be sold for Any car.

Could the pre-production interior do that? No...

I think this odd nerve the interior is hitting with the Camaro heads won't hit like that with the average buying public.

But honestly, when has the Camaro or Firebird EVER had a "Like everyone else" look inside or out?

You won't ever see a Camaro with a Corvette/Cobalt steering wheel or the "Chevy Face" front end sharing and I like that.

Problem is there is no torque gauge. And we all know the reason for slow sales in the 4th Gen was because drivers just didn't know how much torque they were getting at any instant.

Keep in mind that we still don't know what it will look like.. It's still in the development phase..

Never know.. It could end up looking like that.. Who knows.. Just wait.. We will know for sure.

Problem is there is no torque gauge. And we all know the reason for slow sales in the 4th Gen was because drivers just didn't know how much torque they were getting at any instant.

:D I've got to admit, that made me laugh :)

Problem is there is no torque gauge. And we all know the reason for slow sales in the 4th Gen was because drivers just didn't know how much torque they were getting at any instant.

:lol:

^ yeeeeeeah.. I take it that was a joke.. :| -The slow 4th gen sales thing..

I was thinking to myself. The Camaro interior pictures so far have not shown a hole in the dash in which a HUD type thing would project from.
Now, I was thinking 2 things
1- Its cause its the ones we see now are not built for it or have yet to go testing
or
2- If anyone remembers, that the concept had some sort of display that would light up in the upper part of the dash, where it was that copper strip that divided teh dash pad from the lower part of the dash. Is it possible that GM has developed this further into the Camaro, having an electronic display of numbers that would come up on this strip?
Wishful thinking, I know. I just thought about the concept and wonderd if that is what we can expect.

As for the interior, its looking better. Im a fan on the guages and how it projects the Camaroness to the driver, but I would not be saddend to see it go.

I would be really surprised if the 2nd or 3rd year of the new Camaro didn't have a different interior.

After satisfying all of the retro hungry Camaro buyers, GM will probably target the younger high-tech fighter pilot types.

I was thinking to myself. The Camaro interior pictures so far have not shown a hole in the dash in which a HUD type thing would project from.
Now, I was thinking 2 things
1- Its cause its the ones we see now are not built for it or have yet to go testing
or
2- If anyone remembers, that the concept had some sort of display that would light up in the upper part of the dash, where it was that copper strip that divided teh dash pad from the lower part of the dash. Is it possible that GM has developed this further into the Camaro, having an electronic display of numbers that would come up on this strip?
Wishful thinking, I know. I just thought about the concept and wonderd if that is what we can expect.

As for the interior, its looking better. Im a fan on the guages and how it projects the Camaroness to the driver, but I would not be saddend to see it go.

If a HUD is available (and I'd be surprised if it was not) the projection would be most likely from behind the tach/speedo pods and we have not been able to see that area in any of the interior shots (at least that I remember). I would also say the area above the center stack that people were questioning (looks like a flap, door, or something) immediately made me think of the top of the NAV unit that was shown in the CTS dash.
Clyde

I have a feeling if we all had our way, the New Camaro would look like Homer's self designed car..
http://blogs.business2.com/photos/uncategorized/homer_dreamcar.gif


:p KIDDING! But Not.. Just a joke.. :lol:

^ yeeeeeeah.. I take it that was a joke.. :| -The slow 4th gen sales thing..
It was.

http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/2009CadillacCTSVPress/1000442405?viewSize=thumb1280x1280

This interior is magnificent! GM hit a home run with this one. HOT.



Look at the gauge cluster and steering wheel. The nav isn't practical, I know, but looking down lower at the console/climate controls.

I'm not saying copy it 100% because that would be impossible for what the car is going to cost, but jeez, THIS is the styling people want now..... not that retro garbage i'm seeing.

well -- We COULD make the Camaro have an interior that looks like many other GM IPs..........however, is that the right thing to do?

OR -- should we give the Camaro owner something that's unique?

Schismblade -- as I recall, you've posted on another thread that you aren't going to buy a Camaro anyway -- (which makes me wonder why you'd post that in the first place........)

.........how 'bout holding your opinion until you actually can sit in one and drive it and THEN make an informed opinion?

well -- We COULD make the Camaro have an interior that looks like many other GM IPs..........however, is that the right thing to do?

OR -- should we give the Camaro owner something that's unique?

Schismblade -- as I recall, you've posted on another thread that you aren't going to buy a Camaro anyway -- (which makes me wonder why you'd post that in the first place........)

.........how 'bout holding your opinion until you actually can sit in one and drive it and THEN make an informed opinion?




Just because i'm not in the market doesn't mean I don't want the car to succeed.... I post this because I care....


Nonetheless, I think i'll just ignore every "spy" picture I see from now on and wait for the final product.

Just because i'm not in the market doesn't mean I don't want the car to succeed.... I post this because I care....


Nonetheless, I think i'll just ignore every "spy" picture I see from now on and wait for the final product.


I know it's a 'leap of faith' -- but I submit to you that every time a picture has leaked over the past dozen years -- no matter what the product -- people lose their collective minds! And then when the dust settles - people tend to say "wow -- nice car/truck!"

I know it's a 'leap of faith' -- but I submit to you that every time a picture has leaked over the past dozen years -- no matter what the product -- people lose their collective minds! And then when the dust settles - people tend to say "wow -- nice car/truck!"

Still...you have to admit there seems to be a pattern in the comments regarding the interior.

Makes me wonder how the focus groups were chosen.

That's the $70,000 interior, in a $70,000 car. Remember, Camaro is like a $25,000-$35,000 car. You ain't getting that fancy interior son.

Still...you have to admit there seems to be a pattern in the comments regarding the interior.

Makes me wonder how the focus groups were chosen.


Well -- I'd submit to you that if you were to go back and look at the reaction to the 2nd gen car when it came out -- it was much more polarizing..........and yet it went on to be the most successful Fcar to date!

I've said this time and time again:

Any time we change something on a Camaro or Corvette -- 50% tend to love it -- 50% tend to hate it -- and 90 days to 6 months later, 80% of those who hated it have accepted it.......even come to like it!

Yes - there are those who don't like the 5th gen -- even tho. they've not seen the finished product in person. (which makes me wonder why they won't wait until they see it - IS there another reason???) -- That said -- the percentage that are loving it is substantial. I'm in Houston tonite -- and the crowds around bumblebee are truly amazing........

Yes - there are those who don't like the 5th gen -- even tho. they've not seen the finished product in person. (which makes me wonder why they won't wait until they see it - IS there another reason???) -- That said -- the percentage that are loving it is substantial. I'm in Houston tonite -- and the crowds around bumblebee are truly amazing........
I saw the other bumblebee at the Detroit show a couple days ago. 10 AM on Thursday to be exact. The show crowd wasn't as overwhelming as last year, I think mostly because I was stupid enough last time to try and go on the first Saturday ( :eek: ). But there was a steady crowd staring at the new Camaro this last Thursday. And this was despite the fact GM had the car tucked way over in a corner with the Caddy Provoq and some kind of Chevy compact concept car. It appeared the Bumblebee was there due to a simple lack of floor space in the regular Chevy exhibit, plus it makes sense that the 'star' this time was the ZR1 (which kind of made me drool :drool: ).

I noticed people were just kind of standing around the Bumblebee, kind of like people stand around a campfire to get warm :bow:

And like me everyone was wearing out their cameras :D

I was there at Detroit on Sunday and I had to ask someone where Bumble was?:confused:

I was expecting a turn-table somewhere, not to see him tucked away in a hard to access corner of a display.
It was a challenge to get pics like the one on my Avitar b/c of the crowded little area, and people waiting to get to the front for pictures.
The exterior really draws crowds, but we couldn't see in the car at all.

The real crowds were around the ZR1, the CTS Coupe, the Riv, and the Volt tho...each with about twice as many people as Bumblebee had.

I was there at Detroit on Sunday and I had to ask someone where Bumble was?:confused:

I was expecting a turn-table somewhere, not to see him tucked away in a hard to access corner of a display.
It was a challenge to get pics like the one on my Avitar b/c of the crowded little area, and people waiting to get to the front for pictures.
The exterior really draws crowds, but we couldn't see in the car at all.

The real crowds were around the ZR1, the CTS Coupe, the Riv, and the Volt tho...each with about twice as many people as Bumblebee had.
I wish we could have been there at the same time, oh well. Pls PM me next time and maybe we can meet up.

As for taking pix. I got a bunch of shots... but got some weird looks from the Lexus-show-girls. I went up to the second-floor 'Lexus lifestyle lounge' since it was right next to the Bumblebee exhibit... and stood there taking down-angle pix of the Camaro next door :D

They were nice about it though, and I guess they welcomed the foot traffic.

Here's some pix I took at NAIAS08 :)

http://s242.photobucket.com/albums/ff210/BlueStreak_95/newCamaro/

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff210/BlueStreak_95/newCamaro/100_4506c.jpg

Well -- I'd submit to you that if you were to go back and look at the reaction to the 2nd gen car when it came out -- it was much more polarizing..........and yet it went on to be the most successful Fcar to date!

I've said this time and time again:

Any time we change something on a Camaro or Corvette -- 50% tend to love it -- 50% tend to hate it -- and 90 days to 6 months later, 80% of those who hated it have accepted it.......even come to like it!

Yes - there are those who don't like the 5th gen -- even tho. they've not seen the finished product in person. (which makes me wonder why they won't wait until they see it - IS there another reason???) -- That said -- the percentage that are loving it is substantial. I'm in Houston tonite -- and the crowds around bumblebee are truly amazing........


I'm going to take your advice and withhold judgement about the interior until I sit in one.

I've noticed that most cars look better in person than in photographs. The latest GTO is a good example. It did not photograph well but it looks great in person.

I'll buy a Camaro regardless of the interior. The body is stunning. It's not unlike choosing a girlfriend. Looks often trump what's inside.

Besides, the Mustang is starting to look a little dated...

Originally Posted by BigDarknFast:
I wish we could have been there at the same time, oh well. Pls PM me next time and maybe we can meet up.
Yeah, it'd been nice to catch up with a few of posters' here...Maybe we'll all be a Indy for the Summit/coming out party.
Here's some pix I took at NAIAS08
Very nice! I thought about that but, didn't think they'd appreciate the traffic.

I wouldn't want the CTS interior in my Camaro. Too busy. Its fine for a luxury car but a Camaro needs to be simpler and more business oriented.