LT1 Twin Turbo Lives!!!

pugs97_30th_Z
12-11-2002, 02:35 AM
Finally the car comes back to life. The setup consists of stainless logish style headers feeding twin Garret T3/T4 Hybrid turbos. Stainless Downpipes/Y-pipe into my borla. Aluminum tubing forward to a front mount intercooler then up into my MAF/TB. Twin Tial 35mm wastegates. Tial Blow off valve. Walbro 255LPH(340 high pressure model) pump with racetronix Hotwire setup. 42 lb injectors.

Dynotuned the car with the help of INTMD8 aka Jim from Speed Inc. The engine is bone stock. Stock heads/cam/TB...only thing on it is twin turbos and a borla.

It dynoed 355 RWHP and about 410ish RWTQ at 5.5PSI. It was running around 11.5 AFR. Jim left it a bit rich since the dyno doesnt produce as much load as the heavy arse car does. I am seeing about 6.5-7 on the street.

Here are the two best dyno sheets:
www.lt1tech.com/pugs/dyno/dyno1s.jpg
www.lt1tech.com/pugs/dyno/dyno2s.jpg

This is an A4 car. It also had a couple of exhaust leaks at the time so that could add a few extra HP I am sure. And the old MSD wires on it might not be helping. Overall I am very happy and the kit turned out very clean. The front 3 plugs on each side are easily visible. 7 and 8 are more of a challenge, but they are dooable from what I am told...havent tried it myself yet.

The next car to get this kit will be the owner of the shop. Not sure how many more kits he needs to get on cars before it goes into mass production, but I am sure it will be sooner and far cheaper than BANKS...LOL

The kit is from Charged Air up in Grayslake, IL: www.chargedair.com

v7guy
12-11-2002, 07:52 AM
lets see a couple of pics of it!!!

1st and goal
12-11-2002, 07:53 AM
Congrats ;)

It's always nice to post an "it lives" thread :D


Marc

Kaos WS6
12-11-2002, 10:55 AM
Congrats!! I can't wait for them to finish up their kit. How much boost do you plan to run down the line?

Guido
12-11-2002, 11:21 AM
About damn time!! Congrats pugs. I know youve been waiting a LONG time on this.

Show us some photos! :)

pugs97_30th_Z
12-11-2002, 11:27 AM
Right now the car is up at CAS getting the exhaust leaks taken care of. Tony is supposed to swing by with it later today to drop it off. I will try to borrow a digital camera tonight and put it on the lift to get some nice pics :)

got_hp?
12-11-2002, 12:16 PM
ballpark figure, how much does the kit go for? and what does it include?


what are you running for tuning?

pugs97_30th_Z
12-11-2002, 01:13 PM
Well the base kit would probably be just the plumbing, turbos and wastegates...and blowoff for an M6 car. That would be the DIY kit. I have no idea on prices yet.

Then I think he plans to sell one that comes with an upgraded fuel system and possibly a tune where you send him your PCM or something. I just have the stock computer tuned with LT1 Edit by Jim(INTMD8).

Obviously there are upgrades that can be had for the turbos also.

I dont want to say anything on prices yet since I really dont know where they will end up. He has thrown out some numbers, but nothing rock solid yet. Im sure he will be posting numbers for all the kits soon.

LS1 and LT1 F-body, and LS1 C5 twin turbos comin at yah.

got_hp?
12-11-2002, 02:07 PM
sweet.....cant wait to see what #'s it puts down on a bolt-on car, and then also a heads/cam car.


so this is using stock compression right?

if we drop compression and increase fuel system, it should be even better.

KosinTrouble
12-11-2002, 04:16 PM
Got any pics?

94-3.4
12-11-2002, 09:44 PM
PLEASE post some pics! This could be what i have been waiting for.

Buttercup
12-11-2002, 10:51 PM
Excellent! Hopefully potential customers will be able to piece it out if need be.

I wouldn't want to purchase any fuel, ignition, tuning pieces, but the manifolds themselves, turbos (although bigger), wastegates, etc. would be nice.

What are some of the specs? Will this place be making headers and turbo combos that will support big power, about twice what you're quoting for the stock kit?

Keep us updated, I think you definately have the attention of quite a few people... not that this hasn't happened before :(

pugs97_30th_Z
12-11-2002, 11:21 PM
Well the same turbos as are on my car are on another customers Eclipse. Thats 1 of my turbos. Its a 2.0 and made 392 at the wheels at 18.5 psi. It did 483 on 27 psi. So the kits potential in current form far exceeds what my motor/heads is capable of.

Turbo naming is very strange and vague to me, but he calls mine T34's. All the way up to a 60 should fit. Again, I dont really understand everyones naming schemes...

a_z28_vance
01-18-2003, 09:49 PM
Pugs, any update with a larger psi yet?

pugs97_30th_Z
01-20-2003, 12:09 PM
Larger PSI? LOL. I plan to drive the car, not break stuff. Plus its winter and there is more salt on the roads now than there is snow on the ground ;)

Hopefully I will have more ambition to work on it when spring rolls around.

I havent gotten it on my lift yet to take pics, but if anyone wants I have a short video of the car that my buddy made. The file is kinda big since he doesnt really know what he is doing...he just got the camera a couple weeks ago.

http://www.lt1tech.com/pugs/TTz28.mpg

Whistler
01-20-2003, 08:13 PM
Awesome! You must be thrilled to see it running. How loud are the turbos when you're accelerating?

355 WHP? Think how much faster it'd be with some duct tape on the TB inlet!! :)

NOYZEE
01-20-2003, 10:36 PM
So its done!! You must be happy! congrats, hows it feel?
Im on about 1,500miles with my kit. The only prob Ive had so far is bolts backing off but it happened only once. Good luck.
Those of you looking at this and have questions www.ls1speed.com go to new items, All prices and info is listed!

Good stuf, But no traction:bow:

BigDaddy
01-20-2003, 10:45 PM
$5600 is a lot of cash for that setup. I don't understand how they can really expect to sell many of these. You can buy a twin intercooled D1 procharger for about $3600.

NOYZEE
01-20-2003, 11:04 PM
its compleat and its quality, If $$$ is an issue then dont play in this game!!!

BigDaddy
01-20-2003, 11:35 PM
Chill out dude. I was just stating that bang for the buck goes to the centrifugal blower. I wasn't saying the turbo kit isn't a quality piece.

a_z28_vance
01-21-2003, 04:46 AM
Is that installed for $5600?? Seems like a lot of $$ for only making 355rwhp...:) :)

turboSpeed
01-21-2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Whistler
355 WHP? Think how much faster it'd be with some duct tape on the TB inlet!! :)

Sounds like jealousy to me...



Nice vid Pugs. :cool:

NOYZEE
01-21-2003, 01:04 PM
Not upset, I know turbos are more $$ but they make power with less PSI! also just a blower wont make 350rw I also know the LS1 kits are the balls!!!

Tech
01-21-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by NOYZEE
Not upset, I know turbos are more $$ but they make power with less PSI! also just a blower wont make 350rw I also know the LS1 kits are the balls!!!

I'd be pissed if I paid 3k for a blower and it didn't make 350rwhp. My little old P600B should make 400ish.

NOYZEE
01-21-2003, 04:57 PM
I cant see a blower making 400hp with only 5.5psi. Im not as up on the LT1s but ive seen ls1 with 4psi blower($4000) making 380 or less, Put a compleat kit on with tunning, fuel system all includded and you'll make 420-450, ($6000) Or get a turbo kit such as the CAS and it comes with everything, soup to nuts, turn key ready to run and make the 500+ mark! So realy turbo or SC you will make power but to compare a soup to nuts kit with a blower (then tac on the rest, headers, fuel, tune, ect) you break even! People dont think of that. eliminate all the extras you get with the CAS kit and your not paying much more. The only differance I see is personal preff, some like Turbo some like SC. Both are great!!! Both cost $$$$$$$$! SPEED ANT CHEAP!:D

JZ 97 SS 1500
03-10-2003, 02:07 PM
Anybody else bought one of these kits??? I know the kit will take up to Twin TE60's....wow. Just curious if any new dyno or track #'s out there?

Jose

Jcb890
03-10-2003, 10:29 PM
that little video link didnt work 4 me dude...gotta love a TT camaro...i would love to have a 396 TT or 396 w/ one huge turbo....drool...turbo V8 drool:bow:

jake

got_hp?
03-11-2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Tech
I'd be pissed if I paid 3k for a blower and it didn't make 350rwhp. My little old P600B should make 400ish.


same here..........why risk blowing your engine up for only 350rwhp........that could be had with boltons and a cam and be much more reliable.

Dreamaster
03-11-2003, 12:29 PM
Guys it's not his HP numbers that are nice, it's his torque number... I think you should name your car "Traction Killer".

My suggestion would be to port those heads and get a special cam so it can breathe in better and it'll even those numbers out quite a bit. (HP would go way up for sure.)

Dreamaster

FreByrd2
03-11-2003, 08:52 PM
whats the name of the song in that video? Anybody know?





jason