Chances for the LS3?

willz
01-06-2008, 11:52 AM
I am sooooo stoked about this car! I will probably not opt for the GT500 fighter though. It will probably be a little over the top for me.
What I want is what I hope will be the Z28 package, around 400 Hp and well balanced performance. What do you all think the chances are of the LS3 being the engine of choice for the mid-level performance car? Or do you think there is yet another V8 coming? Direct injection got any chance? What do you think?

SSmoknLT1
01-06-2008, 01:42 PM
i'm putting my money on the LS3 being the V8 in the camaro

Tricked-Out-Toy
01-06-2008, 01:46 PM
Im guessing the Midlevel (what ill buy) will be similar to the SS if not an SS. and if the first years dont come with an LS3 then ill have to wait to get mine till they do. similar to the GTO, one year with the LS1 and then had to wait for the LS2. Im not worried, I seriously doubt that GM will put anything but the LS3 in there.

My Red 93Z-28
01-06-2008, 06:57 PM
The L76 that is going in the G8 V8 could be a possibility for the base and possibly a LS3 or supercharged LS3 could be the top dog. :shrug:

GTOJack
01-06-2008, 07:30 PM
The 04 GTO had the LS1. 05 and 06 GTOs came with 400hp, 6.0L, 364ci, LS2s standard.

Dragoneye
01-06-2008, 07:35 PM
I had read in a few mags, and blogs and such that the Camaro has at least a good chance, or WILL have the LS3....


and then Scott said in passing that there have been some recent changes in the powertrain lineup. So we're not to believe anything we read about engines.

I'm not banking on LS3 OR L76. Because I was 100% sure based on things I've read that one of them would be in our car. Now I'm not so sure. and I'm not complaining! :D

jg95z28
01-06-2008, 07:49 PM
This has been discussed in the past and some are fairly confident the LS2 will be phased out by the time the Camaro launches, making the LS3 a strong candidate for the the V8 Camaro.

90 Z28SS
01-07-2008, 05:34 AM
....in the US , the LS2 is already done . The G8 engine doesnt count , its a 6L , but uses heads and intake similar to the LS3 .

Gripenfelter
01-07-2008, 10:08 AM
I honestly can't see a supercharged V8 in the top Camaro anymore seeing has how the ZR1 is $100K. I would bet on something cheaper and naturally aspirated.

CLEAN
01-07-2008, 10:18 AM
I would bet on something cheaper .

You got that part right anyway ;)

Gripenfelter
01-07-2008, 11:58 AM
You got that part right anyway ;)

I wonder if the rumours about a hybrid have any truth to them.

Maybe a turbo hybrid? :D

jg95z28
01-07-2008, 12:52 PM
I honestly can't see a supercharged V8 in the top Camaro anymore seeing has how the ZR1 is $100K. I would bet on something cheaper and naturally aspirated.

You got that part right anyway ;)

I wonder if the rumours about a hybrid have any truth to them.

Maybe a turbo hybrid? :D
I think CLEAN is referring to the rumored little brother to the LS9, which is also supercharged.

BigDarknFast
01-07-2008, 03:05 PM
Either the LS3 or the L76 would be fine with me. Both are potent, and the L76 makes 360+ HP on 87 Octane so it would be simple to get more power from it.

99SilverSS
01-07-2008, 04:12 PM
I don't think there is any doubt that the Camaro will get the standard V8 offered in the base model Vette. It wouldn't make business sense to bring in some new V8 varient if the LSx in the Vette in 2009 will do the trick in power and performance. I would say LS3 as the '08 Vette's already have it but the LS2 didn't last long either.

90 Z28SS
01-07-2008, 04:22 PM
I honestly can't see a supercharged V8 in the top Camaro anymore seeing has how the ZR1 is $100K. I would bet on something cheaper and naturally aspirated.

The LS8 is no LS9 when costs are concerned . The LS8 is a production line shortblock , without dry sump oiling .

My Red 93Z-28
01-07-2008, 10:44 PM
I honestly can't see a supercharged V8 in the top Camaro anymore seeing has how the ZR1 is $100K. I would bet on something cheaper and naturally aspirated.

The LS8 is no LS9 when costs are concerned . The LS8 is a production line shortblock , without dry sump oiling .

:yes:
Not to mention the top dog Camaro wouldn't get all the carbon fiber body panels, hood window, huge brakes, etc, etc.

2K1SunsetSS
01-18-2008, 01:00 AM
If the camaro weights 3600, I'd take a 425hp ls3. :cool:

blackbirdta
01-18-2008, 08:37 AM
I honestly can't see a supercharged V8 in the top Camaro anymore seeing has how the ZR1 is $100K. I would bet on something cheaper and naturally aspirated.

I'm not saying the top Camaro will be SC, but like 93Z-28 said the Camaro would not have the rediculous amount of carbon fiber, brakes, etc. Those are the things that bring the price to $100k not just a SC.

personally I don't care what GM does as long as I can get a v8 with 3-400hp for under $32k

DAKMOR
01-18-2008, 09:01 AM
If GM could put AFM (active fuel management (right?) on the LS3 and somehow give us better highway ratios, I'd be all for it.

Gripenfelter
01-18-2008, 11:43 AM
I just heard about the LS8. Very interesting. I wonder how much a crate motor would be. I would drop one into my 93.

jg95z28
01-18-2008, 12:37 PM
:yes:
Not to mention the top dog Camaro wouldn't get all the carbon fiber body panels, hood window, huge brakes, etc, etc.Forget the hood window, but I wouldn't mind the large brakes and some carbon fiber. :D

Gripenfelter
01-18-2008, 12:41 PM
Carbon Fibre also means higher insurance rates.

jg95z28
01-18-2008, 12:55 PM
Carbon Fibre also means higher insurance rates.Luckily for me I make enough money and I'm old enough where insurance rates don't concern me much. :D

aaronc12
01-25-2008, 02:02 PM
im totally opposite. im going to be 20 when the camaro comes out, my insurance is going to be more than my payments i bet. any ideas of what my full coverage insurance will cost?????:(

Tricked-Out-Toy
01-25-2008, 02:31 PM
im totally opposite. im going to be 20 when the camaro comes out, my insurance is going to be more than my payments i bet. any ideas of what my full coverage insurance will cost?????:(

The same or better than the mustang. I seriously dout the insurance will be that high. its not a viper or vette...

jg95z28
01-25-2008, 02:32 PM
im totally opposite. im going to be 20 when the camaro comes out, my insurance is going to be more than my payments i bet. any ideas of what my full coverage insurance will cost?????:(Unless you have mega bucks, you won't be able to afford the top dog Camaro anyway. :p As a new model your insurance will most likely be based on your driving record and the purchase price.

2K1SunsetSS
01-25-2008, 02:38 PM
im totally opposite. im going to be 20 when the camaro comes out, my insurance is going to be more than my payments i bet. any ideas of what my full coverage insurance will cost?????:(

I was 20 when I bought my 01 ss back in 2001, completely in my name the insurance was 180 a month with a clean record. Insurance prices have gone up in the last 7 years so I'd expect it to be more.

aaronc12
01-25-2008, 02:47 PM
180 is cheap compared to what i was thinking but ill expect it to be more since that was 7 years ago. i also have a perfect record and i plan to take defensive driving just to make it go down alittle more.

aaronc12
01-25-2008, 02:53 PM
Unless you have mega bucks, you won't be able to afford the top dog Camaro anyway. :p As a new model your insurance will most likely be based on your driving record and the purchase price.

im going to have a huge down payment plus whatever i can sell my 02 silverado for. im not planning on having the top dog but neither the base model. im looking around $32000 to $35000. good enough to get me into a badass car!;)

ChrisL
01-25-2008, 05:24 PM
im totally opposite. im going to be 20 when the camaro comes out, my insurance is going to be more than my payments i bet. any ideas of what my full coverage insurance will cost?????:(

Call for a quote on a new Mustang GT. It'll bet the insurance costs would be similar. Give you a place to start at least. Plug in your age that you will be when you plan to buy.

My Red 93Z-28
01-26-2008, 01:37 PM
Forget the hood window, but I wouldn't mind the large brakes and some carbon fiber. :D

oh so would I, but you aren't going to get all of that stuff for a price that people will want to pay for it.

j18369
01-26-2008, 05:24 PM
im totally opposite. im going to be 20 when the camaro comes out, my insurance is going to be more than my payments i bet. any ideas of what my full coverage insurance will cost?????:(

I'm actually paying less for full coverage on a V6 Mustang with some weird insurance company I found online (Unitrin Direct) than I was paying for limited (No Fault and crap, I live in Florida) on my '88 IROC before my accident. State Farm tried to hike me up to $400 a month after I did some serious damage to a dump truck, a box truck, and the road with HazMat having to come out and clean up some fuel a few years back when I had my blowout. I've actually been quoted for even less than my Mustang for a Corvette with Geico. Statistics wise.. even though I'm 21 years old, Corvettes just aren't driven that much to constitute a much higher rate.

Based on the volume of the Camaro's that will probably be sold, I can assure you being 20 when it comes out isn't going to be much fun. But as long as you live with your parents it won't be so bad. It'd probably be only 300 a month for a Camaro at your age, even less when you turn 21 and again when you turn 25. I'm sure your payment will be a lot more, depending on what you put down. Even if you get a V6 Camaro around 20,000 with nothing down except maybe to take care of dealer fees + taxes you'd pay around 350 a month.

I actually owned a brand new Mustang GT for a day.. until I returned it to wait for the Camaro. Didn't call up on the insurance though.

aaronc12
01-26-2008, 06:49 PM
I'm actually paying less for full coverage on a V6 Mustang with some weird insurance company I found online (Unitrin Direct) than I was paying for limited (No Fault and crap, I live in Florida) on my '88 IROC before my accident. State Farm tried to hike me up to $400 a month after I did some serious damage to a dump truck, a box truck, and the road with HazMat having to come out and clean up some fuel a few years back when I had my blowout. I've actually been quoted for even less than my Mustang for a Corvette with Geico. Statistics wise.. even though I'm 21 years old, Corvettes just aren't driven that much to constitute a much higher rate.

Based on the volume of the Camaro's that will probably be sold, I can assure you being 20 when it comes out isn't going to be much fun. But as long as you live with your parents it won't be so bad. It'd probably be only 300 a month for a Camaro at your age, even less when you turn 21 and again when you turn 25. I'm sure your payment will be a lot more, depending on what you put down. Even if you get a V6 Camaro around 20,000 with nothing down except maybe to take care of dealer fees + taxes you'd pay around 350 a month.

I actually owned a brand new Mustang GT for a day.. until I returned it to wait for the Camaro. Didn't call up on the insurance though.

well im going to have atleast a $10000 down payment ill be living on my own plus i have a 02 chevy silverado which i plan to keep (paid off) but that probably wont happen cause ill sell it out right to pay more off on the car.....

HooliganZ
01-26-2008, 06:50 PM
This has gone from a discussion about the LS3, to a discussion about insurance rates.

j18369
01-26-2008, 07:12 PM
well im going to have atleast a $10000 down payment ill be living on my own plus i have a 02 chevy silverado which i plan to keep (paid off) but that probably wont happen cause ill sell it out right to pay more off on the car.....

Agree with living on your own, got my money for a house and about 10 g's already seperate for the Camaro/Mustang/Corvette whatever I decide to get, will be more if I decide to wait a little longer. If you buy a house it'll make it easier to buy the Camaro. I got approved at maybe 2/10 banks for 5.9% on the Mustang I bought on my own credit. I have a perfect score but I've only had credit for a couple years so they think you're more of a risk if you're a younger guy.

aaronc12
01-26-2008, 08:05 PM
This has gone from a discussion about the LS3, to a discussion about insurance rates.

true that. thanks for all yalls help.