AHEM camaro less camo AHEM

http://www.thegmsource.com/images/2007/c5.jpg

I'll reserve judgement until after more is revealed, but that looks to be taller, chunkier, and less aggressively sculpted than the concept, which ain't necessarily a good thing. Not unexpected, but so far disappointing. We'll see what it looks like in a better color/with a better lens/in person.

I wonder how porky it will be.

Someone's getting fired over this one...

;)

BTW, When is someone going to show up with some interior pictures?!?!?!?

First thing that came to my mind was Dodge-esque.....

And, My god look at the B-pillar!!!!

I dont see whats so bad about it . The Mirrors EH?? But did we really expect them to be like the concept. Id like to see it in a better color.

Mike

The concept was TOO chopped looking.

Even this white car could stand to have a slightly taller greenhouse, or at least a better ratio of greenhouse/glass to door sheetmetal.

OH, I almost forgot...

:eek: :eek:

That looks MUCH better than the heavily camo'd pics that showed up the other day (on jalopnik, maybe?) from Australia. The narrower tires in those pics made me think the car must have been a V6 car. This car looks to be much better proportioned. Some of that could have been a visual effect of the camo, of course. [Centric, I'm sure the pure white paint is obscuring a lot of the detail. When I move my head in relation to the screen I can see things popping out in more detail (like the front wheel well flare).]

This car looks sweet.

EDIT: :metal:

:yes:

It's too tall and looks like a porker. Reminds me of a charger.

have any of you seen the camaro with camo and the mustang picture???

It's too tall and looks like a porker. Reminds me of a charger.


How do you figure its too tall? The new Camaro looks to be a tad shorter than a convertible Mustang:

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/november2007/chevy-camaro-6.jpg

So Chevy is building Chargers I see.

Chargers?

Where the hell are the Charger comments coming from?

I think people should stop chewing their nails. A production-intent copy will appear soon enough... that's the time to start really looking at the new Camaro. It's interesting to see these half-pix... but just about impossible to make any accurate conclusions about the production car.

Chargers?

Where the hell are the Charger comments coming from?

Believe it or not, I totally see the "Charger coupe" comparisons. :o

http://media.dealerskins.com/carspecs2002/Photos/JATOColor400/DODGE%5CCHARGER%5C2006%5C4SAPS2.jpg

It was actually the very first thing that popped into my head. But as I said in the same thread over on the 5th Gen General Discussion board, I am hoping the relative "blandness" of this shot compared to the concept is due to the vanilla color, the front and rear cammo and the crappy cell phone quality.

:think:

The concept had the same kick up at the rear 1/4 panel. The Charger's is more abrupt. I think the slightly elevated and forward angle in the original picture in this thread is changing the way the upkick looks.

http://www.geekbooks.com/nyautoshow/DSCN5994.jpg

The production Camaro will look a lot like the concept in this area, I'm quite sure. I don't see much Charger when I look at the concept.

Need to see the car without the camo, in a better color and/or in appropriate lighting (to show the details).

But yeah, all cars these days have the squashed greenhouse vs. body proportions, for which we can all thank the damn Chrysler LX cars... :|

I'll reserve judgement

ditto

It looks as good as can be expected. I'm satisfied.

As I said mirrors and door handles are wrong, but that's not a huge deal. Paint and lighting are making a big difference on the body lines.

Yes it's tall and a tad wide, but all new cars are. Some of the proportions were pushing it to begin with so I'm not dissapionted that it's not a 1:1 change from concept to production like the Solstice.

It's already far better than the mustang. :think:

:think:

The concept had the same kick up at the rear 1/4 panel. The Charger's is more abrupt. I think the slightly elevated and forward angle in the original picture in this thread is changing the way the upkick looks.

http://www.geekbooks.com/nyautoshow/DSCN5994.jpg

The production Camaro will look a lot like the concept in this area, I'm quite sure. I don't see much Charger when I look at the concept.

Need to see the car without the camo, in a better color and/or in appropriate lighting (to show the details).

But yeah, all cars these days have the squashed greenhouse vs. body proportions, for which we can all thank the damn Chrysler LX cars... :|


And we can thank the damn Mustang and that damn VW for the retro abuse. Other than that I like what I see.

Maybe it's the angle of the picture, but the thing looks super tall. THe mustang shots gave it some more perspective. I'll await further photo-evidence that it doesn't look like a charger :p

So Chevy is building Chargers I see.

huh???

I'll reserve judgement until after more is revealed, but that looks to be taller, chunkier, and less aggressively sculpted than the concept, which ain't necessarily a good thing. Not unexpected, but so far disappointing. We'll see what it looks like in a better color/with a better lens/in person.

I wonder how porky it will be.


Thats a fat chick I'll bang!.

Someone's getting fired over this one...

;)

The Gestapo executes on the spot...

Believe it or not, I totally see the "Charger coupe" comparisons. :o

http://media.dealerskins.com/carspecs2002/Photos/JATOColor400/DODGE%5CCHARGER%5C2006%5C4SAPS2.jpg



:lol: You're RIGHT! I knew it reminded me of something.

It does look a lot like the Charger...

You know, after so many photos of the concept, these realworld pics have reminded me how aggressive the design is.

Charger? lol The original Camaro and several Mopars also had the stepped shoulder line too. Why would retro versions be any different?

The photo lighting is terrible...:p
The whole passenger side is shadowed.
And the paint appears to be a Satin finish, non glossy.
I'm sorry, but if you see "Charger" there you need some glasses...;)

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33838&postcount=47
I like that post

those don't look like 22" wheels....:mad:

:P

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33838&postcount=47
I like that post

I've just spent the past 10 minutes looking at this link comparing cars and have to say that the production version is very, very similar to the concept. Wheels/ tires, handles, and mirror aside everything else looks 90% the same. The biggest difference I see is in some of the angles around the b-pilar. On the concept the rear roof line is sleeker and the side glass appears to angle into the passenger compartment more. the slightly taller greenhouse of the production car makes this area look a little less dramatic. Sad but overall the body looks very true to the original design. Better lighting, paint etc...and i think the production car would excite people nearly as much as the concept. Oh, you can also see the real world wiper blades otherwise even the front end under the camo looks identical. Fogs, side marker light, lower grill opening, upper grill opening, pointed shape of the fascia all look good.

The photo lighting is terrible...:p
The whole passenger side is shadowed.
And the paint appears to be a Satin finish, non glossy.
I'm sorry, but if you see "Charger" there you need some glasses...;)
Yeah we all need some of those rose colored glasses that most everyone is wearing around here. If you can't see the Charger in that pic then maybe your a little blinded by brand loyalty.

Yeah we all need some of those rose colored glasses that most everyone is wearing around here. If you can't see the Charger in that pic then maybe your a little blinded by brand loyalty.

That's right...because that is a high-res, highly detailed, well-lit, professionally taken photo showing proper angles and zero distortion. It clearly displays all of the car's proper angles, and reveals everything. No question, it looks just like a 4-door Dodge.

I'll reserve my judgement until we get some better shots. From that shot I see the Charger....but I'm going to say it's due to the lgihting and the camo. The door does little incredibly tall in relation to the glass.....but, oh well. It's a Camaro :thumb:

I've just spent the past 10 minutes looking at this link comparing cars and have to say that the production version is very, very similar to the concept. Wheels/ tires, handles, and mirror aside everything else looks 90% the same.

I fully agree. Using that side by side comparison gives a lot of context and shows just how much of the body detail is there. You can't really "see" it until you look at them side by side.

I'm sure that this car is the matte white color specifically to hide the details. It might even be a car waiting for the full camo treatment - though the vinyl covering is different than the mules caught in the wild.

Personally, this makes me more excited than ever. I think once the production version is out, pretty much everyone will be pleased.

Remember the uproar when the concept photos first leaked? Lots of people hated it, but then when they saw the real thing...

And we can thank the damn Mustang and that damn VW for the retro abuse. Other than that I like what I see.

Meh, the PT Cruiser started it....

I love it, when can I buy one?

That's right...because that is a high-res, highly detailed, well-lit, professionally taken photo showing proper angles and zero distortion. It clearly displays all of the car's proper angles, and reveals everything. No question, it looks just like a 4-door Dodge.Well said Jason. :D

So Chevy is building Chargers I see.

Profile-wise, I think it looks more like CHallenger than CHarger. :shrug:

Yeah we all need some of those rose colored glasses that most everyone is wearing around here. If you can't see the Charger in that pic then maybe your a little blinded by brand loyalty.

yeah, or we could take a closer look and realize that this thing is intentionally in white to hide the lines. The concept was inspired by af a 69 camaro. You do know what a 69 charger looks like right?

http://www.eastohiocoolcars.com/Road%20Trip/004/1969Charg_PK3.jpg

Hmm, well what about a 69 Challenger?
No wait, that didnt exist until after the entire 1st gen in 1970

http://www.dodgeforum.com/models/challenger/images/1970-Dodge-Challenger-3.jpg

Not only that but the sharp lines are hidden by the white color and bra intentionally. Im betting it looks like the concept minus the holes in the shark gills. the wheels are smaller but the lines are the same. We knew it needed to get a little thinner and the green house needed to get a little taller. Mustang is still a taller car.

Do y'all feel better now whining that anyone that thinks it looks like a Charger is an idiot? Jesus Christ it's a car and people said it looks like another car, get over yourselves. Some of the responses on here are ridiculous, showing pictures of 69 and later model Chargers to explain that my perception is wrong. Good god I just said it looks like a Charger, pull your panties out of your cracks!

Do y'all feel better now whining that anyone that thinks it looks like a Charger is an idiot? Jesus Christ it's a car and people said it looks like another car, get over yourselves. Some of the responses on here are ridiculous, showing pictures of 69 and later model Chargers to explain that my perception is wrong. Good god I just said it looks like a Charger, pull your panties out of your cracks!

um, that was a direct responce to your post that people who didnt agree with you were wearing rose color glasses. Im sorry if you cant handle perspective that doesnt back up your opinion.

um, that was a direct responce to your post that people who didnt agree with you were wearing rose color glasses. Im sorry if you cant handle perspective that doesnt back up your opinion.
Yeah I'm crying all about it right now:rolleyes: Man that pic sure looks like a Charger TO ME. Is that better? Unbeliveable:cry:

Well the pic isn't good and certainly not leaked by GM. The black suburbans are on the move to find whom did this.

That being said to me it looks great. A lot of detail that I had hoped would make it from the concept seem to have made it. Double cove roof, gills on the lower rear valance and the cut lines down the door. This picture seems to lack a rear spoiler to kick up the rear profile and makes the car look a bit tighter than the concept but overall very impressive.

The white prototype as I'd call a Beta has a taller look and that seems to be on optical illusion when you see it next to the Mustangs and because the front and rear clip with hood are covered in black.

As for the Charger comments I suppose in this angle and view gives some of that look although for me whom has seen the concept so many times in pics and in person and how I know the car should look with the camo off I can't see it. Also knowing the size difference and a basic eye for design between the two cars my brain just doesn't allow that connection. But there are many whom will say it looks like a Mustang to and as a knowledgeable car lover I hear those types of cars looking like other cars all the time.

...Good god I just said it looks like a Charger...

Man that pic sure looks like a Charger TO ME. Is that better?

Ease up there, bud. You also told everyone else what they should think it looks like to them, too or they were "blinded". You can't be surprised by the response to that. I think everyone knows what you mean now, though.

And no, this was far from a staged leak. The words in the phone conversations that I had last night were not exactly happy.

Originally Posted by STOCK1SC
Yeah we all need some of those rose colored glasses that most everyone is wearing around here. If you can't see the Charger in that pic then maybe your a little blinded by brand loyalty.
Well, the 2 year Commercial Art Certificate I completed some years back probably helps me see shading, lighting, lines and color a little different than most.

The Charger's hip cuts a little further down with more of an arc, and the sides are really tall and the rest of the lines aren't even close...I just can't make myself see it.

I will say it appears to me they've ever so slightly softened the bulging lines the Concept had, and it looks GREAT!..:bow:

I have to squint really hard to see even a resemblence.:D

And if you took my comment too harsh, I apologize.;)

This is the first time I've heard of pictures having to be taken from "proper angles." A proper angle to me is any angle at which the car can be viewed, because when cars are on the road or parked in a driveway or parking lot, they WILL be viewed from any and all angles possible.

That said, I think it looks as true to the concept as we could hope.

This is the first time I've heard of pictures having to be taken from "proper angles." A proper angle to me is any angle at which the car can be viewed, because when cars are on the road or parked in a driveway or parking lot, they WILL be viewed from any and all angles possible.

That is very true, but pretty much every picture of the concept has been taken to make the car look as edgy as possible. A casual shot isn't going to have the same effect. If you look at some of the concept shots from close angles, a lot of the detail dissapears.

The paint is also playing a huge part in this, 75% of concepts now come with some version of silver paint that reflects a lot of light. Whatever they slathered on that mule may have been designed for the opposite effect.

But I too am happy so far.

It's too tall and looks like a porker. Reminds me of a charger.

I concur. I hope it looks better after all is said and done :no:

It might just be the white color of the prototype (and the poor lighting of the photo), but I think that it looks a bit slap-sided, and the cowl is too high - both of these remind me a bit of the first-gen CTS. Put a proper color on it (or at least put it in daylight) and I may have much different thoughts.

It might just be the white color of the prototype (and the poor lighting of the photo), but I think that it looks a bit slap-sided, and the cowl is too high - both of these remind me a bit of the first-gen CTS. Put a proper color on it (or at least put it in daylight) and I may have much different thoughts.

I kind of thought that at first, until I put a picture of the Concept and this leaked photo together. Then I noticed the proportions really aren't that different. Then with a little more looking you can see there are curves that really don't show up well do to the flash of the Camera and the poor white finish.

You can see the line at the bottom of the door that runs at an angle (at first I didn't see it and that's exagerated on the concept so I thought for sure it would carry over). The slits don't appear to be cut out on the rear quarter panel. (but there are indentations there for them). etc...

I don't think we can judge a whole lot from this picture, and no I don't see "Charger" at all. It's shorter, not as tall, single door, totally different design. You people seeing a charger to me are smoking crack. Now if I look at a Toyota Camry long and hard enough I can see a few Chevy Impala lines too. Doesn't mean the whole car looks like the other when they may share one of two "design resemblences".

Hell, I can't hardly tell 60's and 70's muscle cars apart they all look the same. :shrug:

It might just be the white color of the prototype (and the poor lighting of the photo), but I think that it looks a bit slap-sided, and the cowl is too high - both of these remind me a bit of the first-gen CTS.

On closer inspection, cowl height is what has me worried most about this design. The most irritating thing about the new Mustang we use as a DD is the EXTREME cowl height--it makes the car seem much larger than it is, and really impairs vision. I can't toss it around with as much confidence, simply because I can't see as well as in other cars.

I was hoping that GM, with its more compact LSx series engines, would be able to reduce cowl height on the Camaro and make it more user-friendly. Again, we'll see--I'm reserving judgement until I can actually sit in the car.

On closer inspection, cowl height is what has me worried most about this design.

If they are keeping that aspect like the concept, it will be awesome. It was one of my favorite parts of driving it.

See this vid, there is decent driver's perspective, especially at the very end:
http://thumbs.vidiac.com/e8e5d0fd-4ce2-44af-a4bf-cf3ef1e62eb3.jpg (http://videos.camaroz28.com/video/e8e5d0fd-4ce2-44af-a4bf-cf3ef1e62eb3.htm)
Click here to see Video (http://videos.camaroz28.com/video/e8e5d0fd-4ce2-44af-a4bf-cf3ef1e62eb3.htm)

--I'm reserving judgement until I can actually sit in the car.

Good idea!! :cool:

In the picture, it looks like they've eliminated the angle between the back of the door and the rear quarter from the concept. I don't like the look of the car as much without that angle. I hope it's there on the production car.

Maybe the "top dog" version will have that angle in order to accommodate a really wide set of tires. :D

Meh, the PT Cruiser started it...

Prowler started it. :)

In the picture, it looks like they've eliminated the angle between the back of the door and the rear quarter from the concept. I don't like the look of the car as much without that angle. I hope it's there on the production car.

Maybe the "top dog" version will have that angle in order to accommodate a really wide set of tires. :D



Prowler started it. :)

If you look at the side of the screen (to darken it up) I see those angles in there. Although, they may not be as abrubt; they look to definitely be there. Although, with the piss poor photo/car color/picture angle it really is hard to tell.

If they are keeping that aspect like the concept, it will be awesome. It was one of my favorite parts of driving it.

Aha, it looks like you sit up higher relative to the hood than the current gen Mustang (which is a good thing). And it looks like the hood is lower. Good. I hope they keep it that way. We'll see when it's out.

I'm curious how the view over the concept hood compares to, say, a 3rd gen Camaro.

How do you figure its too tall? The new Camaro looks to be a tad shorter than a convertible Mustang:

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/november2007/chevy-camaro-6.jpg

The new Mustang is a pretty tall car as well. This car looks big to me. Too big. Not very sporty. Plus, white is not a great car color for the most part.

Plus, white is not a great car color for the most part.

Agreed, but it's a popular one (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071204/UPDATE/712040416/1148/AUTO01) - the most popular color for cars both in the U.S. and the world last year - beating silver which had been on top for 7 years.

I don't see what the complaining's about. It's looks pretty close to the concept to me. As much as to be expected. Of course white isn't doing it any favors and is hiding details. That's the point for a camo'd car.

The only thing I question is the antenna tacked on to the roof. Can't this be integrated into the rear window or something? It may not be a big deal, but to me it jumps out and ruins some of the detail on the roof.

I don't see what the complaining's about. It's looks pretty close to the concept to me. As much as to be expected. Of course white isn't doing it any favors and is hiding details. That's the point for a camo'd car.

The only thing I question is the antenna tacked on to the roof. Can't this be integrated into the rear window or something? It may not be a big deal, but to me it jumps out and ruins some of the detail on the roof.

Yeah, I'm sure if that's standard the aftermarket will offer a "Antenna Delete Option".

JasonD, you up for a jump from "Smooth Lock" to "Smooth Antenna". :lol:

From what I can see, I think it looks better than the concept, as far as proportions and such go...

After seeing the camaro5.com link, I think it looks pretty close. I think that that pic has just a terribly bad angle, something to be expected from a casual pic.
I'll also await further judgment, but I am feeling better after looking at the comparison pics between Bumblebee and the camo shot.

Still looks the goods IMO. Can't wait to see it in the metal. I want this car so badly... and still we don't know if it will make it downunder?

Btw, I reckon it's a purposely taken teaser pic in similar vein to Chrysler's teaser pics of the Challenger. There is good reason why the car is white - it hides the car's details while showing the car's stance/proportion quite clearly.

OT: Why is it that the most desirable GM cars never make it to our shores (Corvette, Camaro, GM trucks etc...)?

If they are keeping that aspect like the concept, it will be awesome. It was one of my favorite parts of driving it.

See this vid, there is decent driver's perspective, especially at the very end:
http://thumbs.vidiac.com/e8e5d0fd-4ce2-44af-a4bf-cf3ef1e62eb3.jpg (http://videos.camaroz28.com/video/e8e5d0fd-4ce2-44af-a4bf-cf3ef1e62eb3.htm)
Click here to see Video (http://videos.camaroz28.com/video/e8e5d0fd-4ce2-44af-a4bf-cf3ef1e62eb3.htm)



Good idea!! :cool:looks real bad. your knee is almost in the dash and your arms are way out there. looks like everything would be a reach. i hope the real one is alot better than that.

looks real bad. your knee is almost in the dash and your arms are way out there. looks like everything would be a reach. i hope the real one is alot better than that.

This was in the concept. It is nothing more than a movie prop. You couldn't adjust anything and Chris behind the wheel is over 6' tall. I don't think they will be dumb enough to put out a car that is not ergonomic, especially one that has this much visibility.

The point of the video was for driver perspective in reply to centric's post, not how much knee room there was because all of that is sure to be different.

This was in the concept. It is nothing more than a movie prop. You couldn't adjust anything and Chris behind the wheel is over 6' tall. I don't think they will be dumb enough to put out a car that is not ergonomic, especially one that has this much visibility.

The point of the video was for driver perspective in reply to centric's post, not how much knee room there was because all of that is sure to be different.yeah i know but i'm just voicing my opinion so that the higher ups see it. that pic beside the mustangs made me like the car more and i just want to be able to be comfortable in it. GM does a excellent job at that sorta thing but i am hoping they just don't copy the mustangs layout thinking thats the best way.

See this vid, there is decent driver's perspective, especially at the very end:
http://thumbs.vidiac.com/e8e5d0fd-4ce2-44af-a4bf-cf3ef1e62eb3.jpg (http://videos.camaroz28.com/video/e8e5d0fd-4ce2-44af-a4bf-cf3ef1e62eb3.htm)
Click here to see Video (http://videos.camaroz28.com/video/e8e5d0fd-4ce2-44af-a4bf-cf3ef1e62eb3.htm)



Wow, that exhaust note is badass! :thumb: I didn't know the concept sounded like that...

Still looks the goods IMO. Can't wait to see it in the metal. I want this car so badly... and still we don't know if it will make it downunder?

Btw, I reckon it's a purposely taken teaser pic in similar vein to Chrysler's teaser pics of the Challenger. There is good reason why the car is white - it hides the car's details while showing the car's stance/proportion quite clearly.

OT: Why is it that the most desirable GM cars never make it to our shores (Corvette, Camaro, GM trucks etc...)?

Agree still looks good and the paint does make the car look more bland...I would say it's on purpose.

The beltline is too high for my taste. I like the proportions of the Commodore-based mule we saw better.

I will reserve my judgement until it is released before I hate it. :p

You could say that with regards to cars that the Middle East gets but the US doesn't as well. Ie. the new Caprices or Luminas, etc. We get stuck with the fricken Impala that looks like an Accord. :rolleyes:

Edit: Meant to quote SSbaby's post.

I don't see what the complaining's about. It's looks pretty close to the concept to me. As much as to be expected. Of course white isn't doing it any favors and is hiding details. That's the point for a camo'd car.

The only thing I question is the antenna tacked on to the roof. Can't this be integrated into the rear window or something? It may not be a big deal, but to me it jumps out and ruins some of the detail on the roof.

Thats probably the Onstar/XM antenna. If I remember right Onstar will be standard in every GM car soon here so you may not have a choice on whether or not to have it tacked on there. I know on the sky there is no delete option.

This is a post from Scott in the 2010 Camaro forum...

OK - I know that not everyone liked the concept -- but frankly, 90+ percent DID -- and that's 'off the charts' for a new vehicle.......

For those of you who DID like the concept and Bumblebee-- you will love the production car because it's simply more svelte (Relax Charlie and Bob) than the concept.......trust me on this. (How many times do I have to say 'trust me' anyhow??????)

This was a horrible picture --

.................and it's what puts me up the wall --

.....................past the pictures...............

.........................................and on to the ceiling........

.....because some BOZO (I'm being kind here......) took it upon himself/herself to take a horribly positioned picture and put it out there for all to see. Someone not only needs to be fired -- but PROSECUTED..................and no, we didn't do this to 'leak' it.....

Had the person just simply dropped to his/her knees and taken a picture at a more realistic angle-- some would'nt be using words like 'pig' "charger" and such ........

The white color is somewhat misleading -- further, the black bras on the front and back trick the eye into seeing 'vertical' rather than 'horizontal' -- and, as others point out -- lighting is everything in terms of showing 'character' lines. (anyone who sees the Red Fiberglass and then the Silver coupe or Bumblebee will tell you that metallic paints bring out the character lines -- something you can't see in these pics...)

Guys and gals -- the production car is stunning......to the point where there is lots of emotion when you see it for the first time. (heck -- Mr. Wellburn HUGGED it!!!)


..........and while I'm in rant mode --

..............we know we'll never keep everyone happy -- but judging by the comments I read thru 2am this morning on at least 15 sites -- I couldn't be happier with the general reaction..................

Now -- to dispatch the black suburbans...........

This is a post from Scott in the 2010 Camaro forum...
Thanks. That makes me feel a lot better knowing Scott would say something like that. Damn near has alleviated all of my fears about it now.

This is a post from Scott in the 2010 Camaro forum...

Where this thread should have been, technically.

Where this thread should have been, technically.

Agreed... but it wasn't there.... people didn't care to go there to read it... and some where posting "crazy" stuff, again with the charger comparisons.... so i wanted to quote Scott to calm some people down in this side... lol :D

To bad GM won't release an official picture, but I can understand why they won't or can't. It'd be nice to see. Not a big fan of the 67-69 cars, so I guess its hard for me to gush over the F5, had it been more reminiscent of the 70-72 cars, those were pure sex on wheels, I'd probably be more enthusiastic. However drawing on the F1s probably had some packaging benefits you couldn't achieve with the F2s.

I do see a lot of Charger in the proportions. Oh, and black mirrors on a white car??

Oh, and black mirrors on a white car??

While I think that the mirrors could just be for evaluation, thus unpainted, or are temporary, lots of Chevy base models have black mirrors - on white cars.

http://ae35.mjmi.com/cardata/homenet/1G1AK18F267658229-1.jpg

http://www.goodmanchevrolet.com/chev%20images/7045.jpg

Yes, but the huge difference here is that the Camaro mirror is attached to the doorskin while most other GM vehicles have it attached inside in the lower corner of the window frame (as shown above), which is all usually black, makes sense to me, especially with a nice tint. BUT it would not make sense to have a black mirror on the doorskin of the camaro unless your camaro is black. Who would want a black mirror on the doorskin of their blue, red, orange, whatever color camaro?

I HIGHLY doubt the mirrors will be black. Just another camo paint thing. Of course, that's only my opinion.

Yes, but the huge difference here is that the Camaro mirror is attached to the doorskin ...Is it? Or is that just an illusion? :D

For the OEM parts we make , all the first batch trial or engineering samples ect ect go out un-finished . Why would they bother painting a mirror body color on a mule car :D

I for one don't think the engineers and designers have finished the side mirrors. The spy picture shows the mirror attached on the body and has a mirror patch in the corner of the side glass. I can't think of any other car that has both of those elements it's always one or the other. I would say at this point there is still some work left to do as I don't see it staying this way. It doesn't flow with the rest of the cars design.

As for the color even the 4th Gen Camaro's got body color mirrors in 2000. (V8's)