Another stang bits the dust...

So I'm on my way to Autozone to get a friend for lunch. I'm waiting at a stoplight nearby, and a mustang turns on the road the same way I was heading. The light finally turns green, so I hurried to catch him. Luckily, he got stuck at the next light. He revved it up a couple times, then the light turns green, I ate him off the line, and on through second, before I knew it 110mph, two cars ahead, and the zone on the left! I slow down, and make the turn into the zone, he follows. Come to find out, it's a 2000 GT with a cold air intake, MAF, and header back exhaust! He was shocked to see that I only had the cold air intake and muffler back exhaust! Another stang bits the dust!

nice kill, mustangs dont really have all too much of my respect like fbodies do.

Thanks! I think the fbody just went up in that mustang owners book too!

I beat a new 3V GT at Cecil two weeks ago in the GN. He didnt look to happy when he got beat by a 21 year old six cylinder.


Good kill.

Pull that turbo off and see how it goes....:D

Pull that turbo off and see how it goes....:D
lol :D

nice story straight to the point!!

Is there any stories out there of a stang beating a f body?

Is there any stories out there of a stang beating a f body?

Tons of them, just not on this board :lol: ...Terminators and Mach 1's knock Ls1's off all the time.

Pull that turbo off and see how it goes....:D

That was only on 21psi and a bad launch. Best on radials is a 13.41. Best on M/T ET Street Radials is 12.76, with a 1.89 60'. And the car is still stock with a non-alky street chip. Should pick up alot more with my new DP, chip & injectors, and all the other stuff I have.

Im now running 23.5psi on pump gas/alky.

But yeah, without the turbo it would only be a 180hp six cylinder....

Tons of them, just not on this board :lol: ...Terminators and Mach 1's knock Ls1's off all the time.

I test drove a Mach 1 before I bought my 95 Z bout a year ago...I personally thought the LT1 would tear it up, another reason why I bought it

I test drove a Mach 1 before I bought my 95 Z bout a year ago...I personally thought the LT1 would tear it up, another reason why I bought it

A 5spd mach 1 will destroy a 6spd LT1 stock for stock...Dont let that low down LT1 grunt fool ya. Ive seen a number of mach's running 13.1-3's stock over on the registry. They just dont trap as high as 6spd LS1's.

The major problem with the mach 1 is that it has that hideous blue circle that labels it as a ford.

The major problem with the mach 1 is that it has that hideous blue circle that labels it as a ford. Wow what an intellectual statement....

Why thank you!

My Mach1 ran 13.39 bone stock and never once had trouble with a stock LT1 of any kind. I went 4.30 gears and flowmaster muffs and ran 12.97 :cool:
My LT1 stock would turn 14.00s all day.
Now that my LT1 is modified the story is a wee bit different.

I test drove a Mach 1 before I bought my 95 Z bout a year ago...I personally thought the LT1 would tear it up, another reason why I bought it

+1 to the statements about the butt dyno lying to you. The Mach 1 would have its way with a stock LT1.

The mach 1 would have its way with an lt1, but look at the price difference. Give me the difference in price, and my lt1 would DESTROY a mach 1

The mach 1 would have its way with an lt1, but look at the price difference. Give me the difference in price, and my lt1 would DESTROY a mach 1

An even more intellengent post. Not everyone is brand specific like you. Price differance? Yea, its called one car is 10 yrs. newer then the other, some people like newer cars. Whats next ford needs FI to hang right? Ive owned 4 4th gen. fbodies and have driven numerous mustangs and the build quality is not even close, Blue Oval wins hands down. If thats the case Ill pick up a 5.0 stang for a grand or two and have a modfest. Look at Mikie's, he doesnt have much in that car at all and it can easily hang w/ LT1's.

Wait are you talkin about mikies 93 lx, or the mach 1? Cause the 5.0 are called 5.slow for a reason. All what 215 horses? Well if thats the case, newer cars, lets roll out the 02 ss. Taking a 2000+ mach 1 against a stock lt1 is like me taking my stock lt1 against a stock 74 camaro z28. Age matters. So does price. Not everybody can go out and buy a 20 grand rustang, for the cost, the camaro will always win. Even in 09, when the camaro re enters the earth, and destroys the mustang sells, ford will yet again have to make a desperate attempt to not go bankrupt like they already have.

An even more intellengent post. Not everyone is brand specific like you. Price differance? Yea, its called one car is 10 yrs. newer then the other, some people like newer cars. Whats next ford needs FI to hang right? Ive owned 4 4th gen. fbodies and have driven numerous mustangs and the build quality is not even close, Blue Oval wins hands down. If thats the case Ill pick up a 5.0 stang for a grand or two and have a modfest. Look at Mikie's, he doesnt have much in that car at all and it can easily hang w/ LT1's.


And dude, I never said the ford couldnt hang. I actually said the exact opposite, the mach 1 would have its way with a stock lt1. Seems Mr. intellectual can't read! Hooked on phonics works great for my son, maybe you too can try it!

Last time I was at the track I saw a rare occurance...a bone stock LT1 running and it was 14.3's@96 mph.

A little off...the weather was miserable.

He was quite surprised to see my wife's stock 06 Mustang running 13.7's@103 mph being he wanted to race it.....

My LT1 ran 14.08@99.16 in good weather....all of my bud's cars ran similar....

I have a bud with a 5.slow....ran 11.69@129 mph last time out....really slow.

Built 5.slow. 5.slows are the best mustangs out there. They are the 1 ford I would consider driving. But stock, they are horribly slow.

Im talkin about his 5.0 in the 13's w/ a very limited mods. Yea those little 215 hp 1987 technology 5 liters are slow. Mr. hooked on phonics has a question though, WTF are you talking about here?

Not everybody can go out and buy a 20 grand rustang, for the cost, the camaro will always win Since you brought up the 02 SS please explain why I still see a alot of 02 SS's well in the 20's, some still high 20's. Terminator Cobra's are in the mid 20's and will kill it stock for stock and mod for mod. Mach's are newer, run similiar and can be found for high teens low 20's.
Even in 09, when the camaro re enters the earth, and destroys the mustang sells, ford will yet again have to make a desperate attempt to not go bankrupt like they already have. News flash the Fbody went under because it didnt sell and Im seeing more mustangs then ever. Sorry bud but the fbody will never outsell the stang. I love both brands but your obvious disfavor for ford is making you dillusional.

Thats the thing, I don't disfavor ford. The GM just makes a better product. I was raised around fords. Torinos fairlanes, galaxys, you name it. I just have my own opinion, just like you. The reason you still see 02 SS's in the high 20's is because they hold their value, something the mustang has none of (value). Which is why you see more mustangs than ever. But none the less, the mach 1 is a nice car, I was just saying that bang for the buck, the camaro wins. My best friend used to have a 03 cobra with around 600 at the wheels. Cool car, I'm just a chevy guy!

But I have to thank you for making my day a lot more enjoyable. I hope we can get past this little tiff, and be friends. Let me know if you need help with anything! Or mustang parts, my buddy has a lot of ford hookups.

idk man, the hype seems to be going downhill as far as the new camaro coming out goes, i hope to god it sells more than we think

You gotta have faith man! Just like my college football team... The Louisville Cardinals, started the season at #5, now arguably one of the worst teams in the NCAA! But we still cheer them on everyweek!

My 93 has cold air intake, upper & lower Cobra intakes, full exhaust, 3.55 gears, electric fan conversion and lightening of the load ...so to speak.

We are headed out to the track this weekend to test the new weld wheels and see if I can get any lower than a 13.48 @ 106, which is what mine ran last time out.

Every one is intitled to their opinion and welcome to express it here. Hopefully bow tie, you will learn that not all Mustangs can be grouped together, just as any make of vehicle. Last time out I raced a 96 stang with an AOD and absolutely half tracked the guy. These type drivers/stangs are what gives others impressions that we are all slow.

Like I said, the fox body is the only one I would consider... I said stock 5.0s are horribly slow, especially the post fox bodys. Thats what is so great about the fox bodys, it doesnt take much to make them respectable. Nothing against you man! And good luck!

I'm a Chevy guy but when I saw the Mach I had to own one.

They are a close match up with the SS's. I only raced one LS 1 SS and I beat it from a roll. We raced 3 times. It was a manual and I'm an auto.

But from a dead stop my guess is I'd win some and lose some.

They are both great cars. I've had a lot of fun in the Chevy and Ford.

My quickest 1/4 in the automatic 100% stock Mach is 13.6 @ 104. I'll mod it maybe one day.

I have not timed the IROC since the crate install. It's probably going to be low 13's.

Is there any stories out there of a stang beating a f body?

No. We can never beat an fbody on this board. Are you serious? I lose even when I win LOL..... :D:cool::eek::bow:

Is there any stories out there of a stang beating a f body?

I have'nt seen a LS1 in New England that can with my '88. Even at New England Dragway I have not seen any that can run with my '88.But theres a crapload of mustangs that can blow my doors off.Theres fox bodies runing mid-low 7's 1/4 miles up here on 10.5 in tires.Theres even N/A ones running low 8's. I used to run at GM High tech shootouts in E-Town when they allowed Fords to run. But every race we'd beat up on all the GM's. So they did'nt allow us to run anymore. At least my Ford made it in GM High Tech mag. It had a pic of my Saleen and my friends LX launching in the final round and in the write up it stated that we " slaughterd all the late model GM's there" It's hilarious to read that.
They even stoped having the mustang vs GN shootouts in E-town after the year that mustangs won 26 of the 27 matchups.
Don't forget about the Pro 5.0 cars that are running low 6's at 220+mph.Ford small blocks can run with mountain motor chevy Pro mod cars!!! There's no LS1 out there thats running low 6's.So enough of this crap about how awsome GM's are and ford is junk ****. Theres thousands of 5.0's out there that can spank you by bus lenths.
BTW I own a LS1. Both my mustangs are faster and better built.

I have'nt seen a LS1 in New England that can with my '88. Even at New England Dragway I have not seen any that can run with my '88.But theres a crapload of mustangs that can blow my doors off.Theres fox bodies runing mid-low 7's 1/4 miles up here on 10.5 in tires.Theres even N/A ones running low 8's. I used to run at GM High tech shootouts in E-Town when they allowed Fords to run. But every race we'd beat up on all the GM's. So they did'nt allow us to run anymore. At least my Ford made it in GM High Tech mag. It had a pic of my Saleen and my friends LX launching in the final round and in the write up it stated that we " slaughterd all the late model GM's there" It's hilarious to read that.
They even stoped having the mustang vs GN shootouts in E-town after the year that mustangs won 26 of the 27 matchups.
Don't forget about the Pro 5.0 cars that are running low 6's at 220+mph.Ford small blocks can run with mountain motor chevy Pro mod cars!!! There's no LS1 out there thats running low 6's.So enough of this crap about how awsome GM's are and ford is junk ****. Theres thousands of 5.0's out there that can spank you by bus lenths.
BTW I own a LS1. Both my mustangs are faster and better built.

Time slip please.

Time slip please.

I think you better do some research, he is very much legit.

Thanks, Scott. I guess he's just a newb. Only 18 posts. He asked for it. Heres my 2 Saleens,T/A, and 2 timeslips from the '88.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/renegadesaleen/new9-2.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/renegadesaleen/new2-2.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/renegadesaleen/762099_9_full.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/renegadesaleen/moms%20saleen/100_0352.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/renegadesaleen/100_0400.jpg

damn man, picked up 32mph in the back half... crazy

damn man, picked up 32mph in the back half... crazy


Once that Novi 2000 gets spinning it pulls like a freight train:eek:. Its still pulling hard at 7100 rpms where I shift. I dont want to run it to much higher than that because it has a hydralic cam.And if it did'nt have the titanium valves I could'nt rev it past 6500rpms.

:)

Once that Novi 2000 gets spinning it pulls like a freight train:eek:. Its still pulling hard at 7100 rpms where I shift. I dont want to run it to much higher than that because it has a hydralic cam.And if it did'nt have the titanium valves I could'nt rev it past 6500rpms.

:)

thats craziness haha.. solid roller that **** and it'll be even nastier

Once that Novi 2000 gets spinning it pulls like a freight train:eek:. Its still pulling hard at 7100 rpms where I shift. I dont want to run it to much higher than that because it has a hydralic cam.And if it did'nt have the titanium valves I could'nt rev it past 6500rpms.

:)
That's why I love my Novi 2k :bow:

thats craziness haha.. solid roller that **** and it'll be even nastier

The car was set up for FFW & NMRA Street Renegade. You can only run hydralic cam with .550 max lift. The plans for it now is to just drive it on the streets take it to cruise nites and have fun with it. I drag raced it for 10 years and it gets expensive to race a 9 second car alot.When I first started in the class I qualified # 1 at the first 2 events I entered and I won 1 of them and the other got rained out. That was a few years ago but FFW Renegade cars are now in the 7's and I wouldn't even qualify with my setup anymore . And thats the slowest heads up power adder class in the FFW series.

Thanks, Scott. I guess he's just a newb. Only 18 posts. He asked for it. Heres my 2 Saleens,T/A, and 2 timeslips from the '88.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/renegadesaleen/new9-2.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/renegadesaleen/new2-2.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/renegadesaleen/762099_9_full.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/renegadesaleen/moms%20saleen/100_0352.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o36/renegadesaleen/100_0400.jpg

I stand corrected, good looking car man.

I've never owned a fbody, but I have to wonder what kind of POS it has to be for you to say the mustang wins hands down. Before I bought my GTO a few years ago I test drove EVERYthing that might even be a consideration (accept the fbody...it was too old). I drove an 05 GT and an 03 Cobra and both myself and my wife thought they were the two sh*ttiest cars we drove that week. Both of them handled like crap, and the interior on the 03 was a joke. 05 interior was ok, but it rattled A LOT. Compared to the M3, GTO, Vette and 350 I drove, the Fords were outclassed in all departments accept straight line acceleration.

An even more intellengent post. Not everyone is brand specific like you. Price differance? Yea, its called one car is 10 yrs. newer then the other, some people like newer cars. Whats next ford needs FI to hang right? Ive owned 4 4th gen. fbodies and have driven numerous mustangs and the build quality is not even close, Blue Oval wins hands down. If thats the case Ill pick up a 5.0 stang for a grand or two and have a modfest. Look at Mikie's, he doesnt have much in that car at all and it can easily hang w/ LT1's.

I've never owned a fbody, but I have to wonder what kind of POS it has to be for you to say the mustang wins hands down. Before I bought my GTO a few years ago I test drove EVERYthing that might even be a consideration (accept the fbody...it was too old). I drove an 05 GT and an 03 Cobra and both myself and my wife thought they were the two sh*ttiest cars we drove that week. Both of them handled like crap, and the interior on the 03 was a joke. 05 interior was ok, but it rattled A LOT. Compared to the M3, GTO, Vette and 350 I drove, the Fords were outclassed in all departments accept straight line acceleration.
Fbody's are rattlebox's. Both my Lt1's were and so was the LS1. The handleing wasnt much to write home about either...and we already know about their rears. You thought the irs cobra handled like crap? thats the first time ive heard that. Stangs definately have a much more solid feel. The Mustang is no benz but it wins over the camaro hands down.

I have to say the 5.0 mustangs are very fast and very cheap to mod. My friends boss has his 881/2 (t-top car) with the stock interior going 8.07's in the quarter with a built small block. It is a 10 inch tire car, I do not have any pics of it, sorry. I would have bought one if I did not buy my z28. The Saleen is very cool, I really wanted to buy one.

I've never owned a fbody, but I have to wonder what kind of POS it has to be for you to say the mustang wins hands down. Before I bought my GTO a few years ago I test drove EVERYthing that might even be a consideration (accept the fbody...it was too old). I drove an 05 GT and an 03 Cobra and both myself and my wife thought they were the two sh*ttiest cars we drove that week. Both of them handled like crap, and the interior on the 03 was a joke. 05 interior was ok, but it rattled A LOT. Compared to the M3, GTO, Vette and 350 I drove, the Fords were outclassed in all departments accept straight line acceleration.

:nuts::shrug:

Is there any stories out there of a stang beating a f body?
I posted one a long time ago but then I woke up :D:eek:;)

nice kill, mustangs dont really have all too much of my respect like fbodies do.

That could change ;)

Is there any stories out there of a stang beating a f body?

Quick One:

Buddy's: 94 auto with 170+ miles on the clock with K&N and exhaust

Mine: 2002 GT 5 Speed with 49k on the clock with the same mods

Interstate no less (good for him and his gearing)

line up 60MPH and let it fly.......Pulled him the whole way. Same results after three more tries.

Later

Quick One:

Buddy's: 94 auto with 170+ miles on the clock with K&N and exhaust

Mine: 2002 GT 5 Speed with 49k on the clock with the same mods

Interstate no less (good for him and his gearing)

line up 60MPH and let it fly.......Pulled him the whole way. Same results after three more tries.

Later

Im kinda curious what you car runs in the qurter.

None of my friends 4.6 gt's mod for mod can touch my lt1.

nice kill BTW.

[QUOTE='88Saleen;4953654]Thanks, Scott. I guess he's just a newb. Only 18 posts. He asked for it. Heres my 2 Saleens,T/A, and 2 timeslips from the '88.

[QUOTE]

Dude, that 88 is sweet. Im not much on white but still.

You have a link for the mod list?


I am going to look at an 92 GT 5 speed next week some dude has. He has no clue its a jewel and he is lettin it go cheap. :cool: As long as it is in the condition he claims.

Well I am not fastformula but I do have a new edge GT and last season I was running 13.8-9 with 2.2 60s. But my mph was hitting 102.

If I had DRs or slicks I would have easily cut .5 off that time as I feathered the clutch like I was leaving a stop sign. (poor clutch/worn out TOB and Kuhmo ecsta ASX:yuck:)

[QUOTE='88Saleen;4953654]Thanks, Scott. I guess he's just a newb. Only 18 posts. He asked for it. Heres my 2 Saleens,T/A, and 2 timeslips from the '88.

[QUOTE]

Dude, that 88 is sweet. Im not much on white but still.

You have a link for the mod list?


I am going to look at an 92 GT 5 speed next week some dude has. He has no clue its a jewel and he is lettin it go cheap. :cool: As long as it is in the condition he claims.

Thanks. I don't have a link to a mod list
Heres a run down on the mods on the '88

engine- 310cid A4 4 bolt block, Sonny Bryant billet crank,Oliver rods, JE pistons,Fox lake ported twisted wedge heads with titanium valves,Kooks 2" primary headers, Comp cams hydralic cam, crane gold roller rockers,Holley systemax lower intake, saleen shootout upper intake,Accufab 70mm TB, 83mm Pro-m mass air meter, paxton Novi 2000 blower making 23lbs of boost

fuel system- sumped stock tank, Weldon pump,aeromotive fuel rails, 160lb injectors.

engine management- Ford racing EPEC

chassis and suspension- D&D tubular K member, hal front coilovers, TRZ rear suspension with anti-roll bar, 8.8 rear with 31 spline axels and a spool with 3.73's

Transmission Dynamic mighty mite C4 with a 9" converter with a 4400 stall and a trans brake

I think thats about it.

Heres a link to my cardomain page. theres quite a few other pics of it
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/762099

My 94 Z28 ran 14.20's@100-101 stock after I fixed the bad maf. Parts + blower later it went a best of 11.37@120+

My current 86 Mustang ran a 12.94@105 while putting down 246rwhp. I'm now installing a single Precision turbo on it.

I don't really care much for mustangs between 94-98 nor the new ones for whatever reason. I'd jump back into an LT1 Z in a ''heartbeat'' over the newer mustangs.

My 94 Z28 ran 14.20's@100-101 stock after I fixed the bad maf. Parts + blower later it went a best of 11.37@120+

My current 86 Mustang ran a 12.94@105 while putting down 246rwhp. I'm now installing a single Precision turbo on it.

I don't really care much for mustangs between 94-98 nor the new ones for whatever reason. I'd jump back into an LT1 Z in a ''heartbeat'' over the newer mustangs.


Im the same way. I want another fox body, I love them, but I cant find one for a decent price. :( . The fox bodys go for the same ot more then the 94-98's

I do not like the regular 94-98 GT's but I do like the cobra's.