1st pic of the production design Lincoln MKS

Thanks to the upcoming Batman movie "Dark Knight", a person on site with a camera phone, and our friends at Autoblog:

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Yeah...someone posted this on GMI month back. Car looks like a Lincoln ES350.

Thar car looks sweet!:bow:

Yeah...someone posted this on GMI month back. Car looks like a Lincoln ES350.

+1

Is the plan for this thing still to make 'em all AWD?

I think they were all AWD. We had a few white ones when I was instrumenting for Roush. Real nice cars but still didnt seem all that impressive. Same with the next gen F-150s but both vehicles should be competitive and do real well.

It will be a nice car for those who will lament the death of the FWD Cadillac DTS when it is discontinued in 3 or 4 years.

I like everything, looks wise, except the tail lights. They just don't flow.

I think they were all AWD. We had a few white ones when I was instrumenting for Roush. Real nice cars but still didnt seem all that impressive. Same with the next gen F-150s but both vehicles should be competitive and do real well.


Mod powered?

wow I really wanted to like it but it looks like a Mitsu and a Saab had a kid..

bland.
modern...but bland.

Motor?

Headlights came straight off of the TL...

I like the tails, but they don't match the rest of the car.

And I hate all the chrome.

But overall I think it looks neat :D

should be the twin-force 3.5 in there. Wonder what the final HP numbers will be?

With the right power plant that might just be a hit for Lincoln.

Like it all save the taillights. Just don't flow as someone else said.

Looks great to me! :thumb:

700hp, awd, and under $30k with leather, I'm in :lol:

The back kinda looks like a nissan altima, it looks like they took a couple of cars and pieced it together with the styling....nice car, its nice to see an american automaker come out with something nice for a change.

With the right power plant that might just be a hit for Lincoln.

The new Twin Force V6 (dual turbochargers and direct injection) will put out a minimum of about 410 horsepower. Could go as high as 450. Chrysler's SRT8 300s are conservatively rated at 425, and are likely slightly heavier than the MKS will be.

Moving that power through AWD, these cars are going to be no joke performance wise.

I like it. However, I think that Lincoln has a serious perception gap to over come. In my opinion, they are great cars, however I don't think the general public things that to be true.

The MKS looks great, and a "star role" in Batman is nothing but positive news.

Look nice. This is what Lincoln needs. Turbo version should be awesome.

The new Twin Force V6 (dual turbochargers and direct injection) will put out a minimum of about 410 horsepower. Could go as high as 450. Chrysler's SRT8 300s are conservatively rated at 425, and are likely slightly heavier than the MKS will be.

Moving that power through AWD, these cars are going to be no joke performance wise.

Finally, a potential replacement for the Lincoln LS-x.

They were fools to stop that car like they did. :nuts:

When's it come out?
Have a Lincoln LS to replace, was probably going to be a G8, but if this thing is AWD and more HP.

Mod powered?

MKS's had 3.5s. F-series had both 5.4 3v and the 6.2L's. Not sure how production powerplants will be but we already know we'll see 6.2L trucks

I thought that the word was that TTV6 would make more along the lines of 350 or so HP in the Lincolns and maybe 400HP in Shelby Mustangs?

I thought that the word was that TTV6 would make more along the lines of 350 or so HP in the Lincolns and maybe 400HP in Shelby Mustangs?

350 is a bit on the low side.

Keep in mind Ford has been underdeclaring the horsepower of many of it's engines since the 2000 Cobra debacle.

I can see V6 versions of these engines becoming the Mustang powerplant of choice in the not too distant future. Not sure what (or IF there is) currently any actual Shelby plans that far into the future, but if these engines can do what I'm hearing they do (6 liter V8 power at V6 economy), you can bet they'll end up in more than just low production Shelbys.

I thought that the word was that TTV6 would make more along the lines of 350 or so HP in the Lincolns and maybe 400HP in Shelby Mustangs?

Riddle me this Batman...

Would you take a 400hp V8 that porked 4000lbs on a scale and 47/53...
Or a 400hp V6 that allowed 3800lbs with a near-perfect 49/51 ratio?

I know which one I'd vote for.:thumb:

Your estimations above are not very far off IMO. Stick to your guns.

Asian in the front, French in the back. :uhoh:

Riddle me this Batman...

Would you take a 400hp V8 that porked 4000lbs on a scale and 47/53...
Or a 400hp V6 that allowed 3800lbs with a near-perfect 49/51 ratio?

I know which one I'd vote for.:thumb:

Your estimations above are not very far off IMO. Stick to your guns.
I don't understand some of those numbers. Are those distributions backwards or are we talking about Ford's answer to the 911? :)

In any case obviously if that V6 is a turbo motor and does end up with weight advantage it would be very nice. Only question is if a TT V6 is really going to be 200lbs lighter than a V8. Guess if your V8 is stupidly heavy it could be. Otherwise I wouldn't expect a twin turbo V6 to be much lighter than say a certain 6.0L aluminum V8.

Additionally, although a 3.5L making 400HP is certainly possible, it doesn't really seem like it would be very mainstream in that trim (I suppose if the XJ220 could make 500HP from a TT 3.5L V6 15 years ago we should be able to do the same nowadays).

If I do some fake calculations on a 65*F day with a 3.5L motor with good intercooler, decently efficient turbo and give it a generous 90%VE at 6500RPM and A/F of 11.5:1, it can make a little over 400HP with BSFC of 0.5 at about 8psi of boost. Probably more realistic is a touch over 12psi to make 400HP with BSFC of 0.6. Obviously if it spins higher or lower it will need more or less boost.

Only question is if a TT V6 is really going to be 200lbs lighter than a V8. Guess if your V8 is stupidly heavy it could be.

Remember that we are talking about FORD here :D

Headlights came straight off of the TL...

I like the tails, but they don't match the rest of the car.

And I hate all the chrome.

But overall I think it looks neat :D

Agree...the best shot is the side...not really sold on that front grille either.

Could have been worse....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/BigAlZ/LincContiRebadge1.jpg

350 is a bit on the low side.

Keep in mind Ford has been underdeclaring the horsepower of many of it's engines since the 2000 Cobra debacle.

I can see V6 versions of these engines becoming the Mustang powerplant of choice in the not too distant future. Not sure what (or IF there is) currently any actual Shelby plans that far into the future, but if these engines can do what I'm hearing they do (6 liter V8 power at V6 economy), you can bet they'll end up in more than just low production Shelbys.

Thought that cheating on the power ratings wasn't really all that possible any more since the whole SAE standard came down. Regardless nice car too bad I wouldn't be coming any where close to being able to own one. Then again if they depreciate as badly as the LS did maybe in a couple of years.