5th gen pricing

When are planning to release the price on the 5th gen Camaros?

Unknown at this point, but see the FAQ sticky thread above for the basics.

i would bet that the pricing will be out in the first quarter of next year. maybe even at the auto show!

Blaclac, the new Dodge Challenger will be out in just over 5 months. The ZR1 Corvette will be out in less than a year. The Bullitt Mustang is mere months away. The turbocharged Cobalt SS will return as soon as the snow stops flying this winter.

None has pricing announced, nor will have pricing announced till just before actual orders are accepted.

What makes you think that General Motors' Chevrolet division is going to announce the pricing of a 2019/10 Camaro in December 2007 or the 1st quarter 2008, one whole year before it even goes on sale??

Best way to get an idea of pricing schedules is to look around and see what the current pricing schdeules tend to run.

Pricing won't be announced till just before dealers begin ordering. That puts the release of pricing information no earlier than next September if we're lucky, but most likely October or November if the car's going on sale in January 2009. ;)

They've managed to pop an LS3 and other refinements into the base Vette for 2008 for under 1000 dollars more than the 2007 model.

I think it's fair to say that engine's shouldn't be a pricing issue, besides to usual - pay more, and get better power thing.

I expect, and not many share this view, that base V6's should weigh in at just over 20,000, the up-level V6 should come around 23-24k, a base V8 (if only one V8, then it'll go here) comes around with a 26-27k pricetag, and the high-end V8 (disregard if there isn't one), should be offered for around 30,000.

Bob Lutz said he want's to keep prices competetive, that GM would have a business case for a Camaro ranging from 20,000 to 30,000. Expect that, says I.

i dont think there is going to be 2 v6 versions.
willing to put money on that? ;)

willing to put money on that? ;)


Unless something has changed recently expect two V6 packages. With high gas prices and the possible return of CAFE increases the V6 is even more important than any V8.

As for pricing you will see it Hmmm... Approx Dec of 08. The pricing of the Malibu just came out 2 weeks ago and it will be in dealers about a month and a half to two months after it was anounced.

Expect it to meet or be very near what ever the Mustang is selling for.

if you never knew you can order a car 6 months prior to it being in showrooms. which meend if the camaro is a begining of 09 car you can get an order in for it at least byjune of next year if not earlier. as it also has been said that the car may be out in the fall of 08 as an 09 that meens the orders will be able to be accepted in as close as april of next year. not to mention that they already said it ws going t obe very close to the mustang. and to answer your question i think they will have some kind of estimated pricing by the time detroit auto show comes around because they should have the production car there. and being that this is the main show this is the only time to get the production car out before 09 come around and the car is already in showrooms. just watch there will be something at detroit next year. dont get pissy with me because im not the only one who has heard this. you dont want to believe me ...thats fine. i dont want to believe you.You're a little off on those dates. The 2009 Camaro probably won't be available in most dealers until the 1st quarter of 2009.

if you never knew you can order a car 6 months prior to it being in showrooms. which meend if the camaro is a begining of 09 car you can get an order in for it at least byjune of next year if not earlier. as it also has been said that the car may be out in the fall of 08 as an 09 that meens the orders will be able to be accepted in as close as april of next year. not to mention that they already said it ws going t obe very close to the mustang. and to answer your question i think they will have some kind of estimated pricing by the time detroit auto show comes around because they should have the production car there. and being that this is the main show this is the only time to get the production car out before 09 come around and the car is already in showrooms. just watch there will be something at detroit next year. dont get pissy with me because im not the only one who has heard this. you dont want to believe me ...thats fine. i dont want to believe you.

You're wrong about ordering timeframe. And unless Oshawa's rennovations end up way ahead of schdeule (it's barely even started yet) you got Camaro's intro date off target as well.

If you want to keep on believing you can order your Camaro next April, and pricing will be out in January, and you don't want to believe me, then that's OK. Afterall, what do I know? ;)

I'm tellin you guys....get to your local dealer and put in your pre order right now or pay the BIG price later.
If you put down a deposit right now you will get your camaro at MSRP if you get the right dealer. The dealer markups on this car are going to be huge for quite awhile after it comes out.

Per Scott as of last Sunday said the plant is not yet started but the release is still set for Feb 09.

GM has not even release order info let alone will not release info for another year and 4-5 months as the earliest.

We may not get prices till the NAIAS of 09. The press week would be a good time to realese that info.

Hmmmm which model and which engine are you going to order? What interior color is yours going to have. GM has not release any of this info so it make gettin the car you want a little difficult.

As for dealer mark up it won't last any longer than the Mustang once production gets up to speed by summer of 09.

I'm tellin you guys....get to your local dealer and put in your pre order right now or pay the BIG price later.
If you put down a deposit right now you will get your camaro at MSRP if you get the right dealer. The dealer markups on this car are going to be huge for quite awhile after it comes out.
Then find another dealer. My local Chevy dealer does not charge over MSRP on any model. That includes Corvette Z06.

You are all wrong, the Camaro's pricing will be released next thursday. Its plant will no longer be in Oshawa, Canada, but built on Guam at an old WWII Navy base. I heard that the labor rates are really low, and Camaro will be sold at a starting price of 10 grand.
....dont shoot the messanger.

Why is it that every month or so there is a thread I see with this same title?

Comes down to this. Whatever the Mustang is priced at, thats where Camaro will be. So if you are eye-balling a GT at 28k, id bet you that you could get a V8 Camaro for about teh same price.

Let's not get too aggressive about defending something that is UNKNOWN to the public at this point.

actually im not wrong i said the begining of 09 buddy

if you never knew you can order a car 6 months prior to it being in showrooms. which meend if the camaro is a begining of 09 car you can get an order in for it at least by june of next year if not earlier. as it also has been said that the car may be out in the fall of 08 as an 09 that meens the orders will be able to be accepted in as close as april of next year.

If they don't announce pricing until early 2009, what makes you think you can order it next June?

You do realise that it will probably only be available as the base V6 model for the first few months anyway?

and where are you getting that it is only available in the base v6 for the first coupole of months????? are you high??

Did the Mustang do that in '05? I know I didn't see any GT's on the road for a few months. Maybe they were just in short supply. Regardless, I don't think it's a good idea.

Did the Mustang do that in '05? I know I didn't see any GT's on the road for a few months. Maybe they were just in short supply. Regardless, I don't think it's a good idea.
We have a winner!

It makes the most sense from a business standpoint. Offer the base V6 initially. Those that want a Camaro now, will flock to it. A few months later offer the V8 powered SS, the enthusiasts will know its coming and wait. 6-9 months later, the convertible goes up for sale. 12 months after that, the high optioned super Camaro aka Z/28.

You want Camaro to succeed? That release formula will work.

Now if we could just travel forward in time 3-years to see if I'm right. :D

We have a winner!

It makes the most sense from a business standpoint. Offer the base V6 initially. Those that want a Camaro now, will flock to it. A few months later offer the V8 powered SS, the enthusiasts will know its coming and wait. 6-9 months later, the convertible goes up for sale. 12 months after that, the high optioned super Camaro aka Z/28.

If they make me wait ANOTHER 6-9 months after the car is officially released, after already having me wait 3 years from first seeing it, I'm going to kill someone.

If they make me wait ANOTHER 6-9 months after the car is officially released, after already having me wait 3 years from first seeing it, I'm going to kill someone.

Pop a qualude and relax man...

GT's were around, but not on dealer lots. I belive that in the first months of Mustang sales, that the GT take was over 50? GM would be stupid to not release the higher profit, higher demand V8 cars right off the bat. You bring a concept car with a 400hp V8, and then launch it for the first 6 months with a V6 only? Renn Center will burn to the ground.

Pop a qualude and relax man...

LOL I should have followed my statement with a smile of some kind. I wasn't quite as tense as it seemed. ;)

But I will at least mildly strangle someone if the V8 comes out that much later. haha

There's NO WAY that GM could possibly consider not releasing some sort of V8 around 400hp right off the bat...

I mean...that's, that's just stupid! aren't the numbers something like 30% of Mustangs were V8's? and isn't likely that the Camaro would have similar numbers? Why skimp that potential 30%? (or whatever it is)

3 years for a Z/28? sorry, my spidey sense say's uh-uh...Z/28 is Camaro. What other car do you think of when you hear it? Z/28 will be part of the Camaro trim lineup, released immediately to a few months after the car's debut. All speculation, of course, but...3 years for it's identity to arrive? I get sick thinking about it...

We have a winner!

It makes the most sense from a business standpoint. Offer the base V6 initially. Those that want a Camaro now, will flock to it. A few months later offer the V8 powered SS, the enthusiasts will know its coming and wait. 6-9 months later, the convertible goes up for sale. 12 months after that, the high optioned super Camaro aka Z/28.

You want Camaro to succeed? That release formula will work.

Now if we could just travel forward in time 3-years to see if I'm right. :D

I'm wondering what evidence you have that such an approach will work with Camaro?

Camaro is a highly visible car - the most visible and exciting concept that GM has had in decades according to all reports. With that kind of response, IMHO you have to throw down the gauntlet to the competition at launch - have the release of the car make as much of a statement as the concept did.

I'm dubious of the effectiveness of the high-end V8 being released one year after launch (if GM does indeed do that) because I think it will turn off a lot of people - some excitement will have gone for some people and even if they get the car they want one year later, the fact they had to wait another year will still leave a bad taste in their mouth.

Staggering releases as far apart as you suggest would kill any momentum that the concept generated and GM can't do that these days. Also, the market Camaro is going into is vastly different than the market two years ago. Camaro will have to compete against Challenger and Mustang - and potentially a new Hyundai. A staggered release might be a good way to get people to consider other nameplates - especially if *they* stagger their model releases as well.

I'm wondering what evidence you have that such an approach will work with Camaro?

Yeah, I have to agree that's crazy. What are the reviewers going to do with a V6 Camaro? Have a shootout with the V6 Mustang? :o

If anything they consider the reverse and issue the loaded V8 model first to soak the enthusiasts itching to buy (sorry!).

http://video.lsxtv.com/video_detail.php?mId=1700
watch and listen. ed pepper says the cmaro will be in showrooms late 08. booyah!!!!

Might want to re-watch and re-listen.
3:50-Start building at the end of 2008
3:55- Start arriving in showrooms at the end of '08-start of '09

jg95z28 said it probally won't be available in most dealers till the 1st quarter 2009, so he seems to be correct.

so when you didnt see any gt's on the roads for a few months were you at the peoples house who placed and order for a gt and had it sitting in their garage??

Mustang GTs were in seriously short supply the 1st few months, and weren't horded in people's garages.

You do know you can get Mustang production breakdowns on the internet, don't you??? ;)

and actually im right about being able to order a car 6 months prior. every dealership ive talked to (5 and not all from around me) they all told me the same thing . that i can order the car up to 6 months prior. because by that time they will have all of the stats about the car.

so your trying to tell me that since the cars coming out in showrooms,in 1st quarter of 09(jan-march) that there not going to start production by october of next year? your on crakc if you believe this. you know they are producing those cars way before they hit the showrooms. they dont wait until the last minute and then start to produce the car. they make them and they sit them all outside of the plant and then load them, up on trucks to head to dealers.they will not wait until january to start making those cars.

Production of new vehicles tend to happen 2-3 months before they debut in showrooms. I said production should start in October if the car's going to be in showrooms at the turn of the year. The video link you posted also has Ed Peper saying the exact same thing: Production start at the end of '08, showrooms end of 08 to start of '09. The cars will have probally no more than a 60-90 day hold (sitting on lots aren't free).

There will be perhaps a dozen or so preproduction models that will make their way down the line for training, quality control, testing, and press. Late summer my best guess. But regular production for customers isn't going to start till October if GM holds to Camaro's scheduled release date.

I'm not sure how you asked your dealers, but I'm pretty sure you didn't ask them about ordering a car that is not in production 6 months in advance. Dealers will be glad to take your money on anything you want to buy, and any current car in production can be ordered as far in advance as you like. If it spills into the next year's production, then they will simply move it to that following model year and advise you of any changes in price or availablity. But if there's no order sheet available, you won't be ordering one.

But then, when the NAIAS rolls around and if prices are announced, feel free to pull this post back up and I'll gladly eat crow.....as long as Camaro's intro date hasn't been moved forwards. But, I think you'll find my timeline distance from pricing & ordering to showroom is going to be accurate. ;)

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You should probably do some reading before you get an attitude like that if you want your stay to be very long here. ;)

I hate to go against the board like this. But it seems like there were a few "officials" that said it would be out in late '08. Scott says February of '09 so thats what I believe, but I could also see how people could find credible information saying late '08.
As to the pricing. I seem to remember someone from GM saying that they wouldn't start taking orders until they announced pricing and that they wanted to presell the entire first year before they hit showrooms. I don't think this will happen but I would also be surprised if they waited until January of '09 to release pricing. I suspect they will release the info at the start of production at the latest. But I have no solid evidence pointing to such, its just my personal opinion.

why i can say booyah? or do i have to have a couple hundred post before i know anything about cars?

Coming here and rattling off a hundred posts in a short amount of time doesn't mean jack if the posts are you spouting off to people who know what they are talking about. The way you construct your posts, you aren't going to win many friends and probably won't learn very much. You are challenging and talking down to a group of people who collectively know more about the next Camaro than anyone else, anywhere else. That's no joke. Had the same problem on other sites and found yourself unwelcome? You need to ease up on this site, the same can happen here.

Coming here and rattling off a hundred posts in a short amount of time doesn't mean jack if the posts are you spouting off to people who know what they are talking about. The way you construct your posts, you aren't going to win many friends and probably won't learn very much. You are challenging and talking down to a group of people who collectively know more about the next Camaro than anyone else, anywhere else. That's no joke. Had the same problem on other sites and found yourself unwelcome? You need to ease up on this site, the same can happen here.

(start emerill voice/) BAM!!! (/end emerill voice)

jg95z28 said it probally won't be available in most dealers till the 1st quarter 2009, so he seems to be correct.
Not that I am an insider or anything close. I just pay attention in class and take good notes. :D

everything ive heard is facts either from other websights dealers or friends.
Well there's your problem. :D

everything ive heard is facts either from other websights dealers or friends. dont threaten me about being kicked off. if you want me out ..do it. this isnt my life. i only get on here to get new info about the car.ive never really got into these chat forums and i really dont like them but this is my only source to new camaro information right now. as soon as it comes out and i get it .... im gone like the wind.

So why are you here? If you feel that these forums are less of a reliable source than "websights dealers or friends" and you plan on leaving here as soon as you get your new Camaro....(which you will probably get tired of just as quickly)....then why bother in the first place?

Most dealers couldn't tell you very much about the product they already have sitting in their showrooms, so what makes you think they know everything there is to know about a car they won't even get until 15-18 months from now? Seriously...... :lol:

BlacLac,
Your first mistake was talking to dealers. It is widely known that they do not know anything about what they sell, let alone what's coming down the pike.

Second mistake was going to other websites. Like Jason said, with the people we have on this board, there is no better source for Camaro info than right here. We know more about this car right now than most people will know 2 years AFTER it's released.

I remember when I bought my Colorado. I believe the release date was October of 2004. My order was taken on August of '04. Right when ordering opened up.
For my C/E T/A, ordering opened up the last week of August of 2001 and production began on the second week of October '01.
So it seems like the early ordering dates are only about 2 months behind SORP.

Where's our resident car salespeople to give us the official answer on this?


Lastly, if you know everything about the car, and are not open to our knowledge (or don't like what we have to say), why are you here?
If you're closeminded, combative, standoffish, and unwilling to learn, there's just no place for you here.

. i only get on here to get new info about the car.ive never really got into these chat forums and i really dont like them but this is my only source to new camaro information right now

are you here to "get" info or "give" it? I am confused by your words and actions..:confused:

im not here to make friends.
Too bad, 'cause there are some really cool people around here :cool:.
and if im sying something that controdicts what people think...does not meen im wrong.
... but just because you agree with yourself, does not make you "right" either.
everything ive heard is facts either from other websights dealers or friends.
Unfortunately, there is A LOT of mis-information (don't know if that's a real word or not?! :D) out there about the 5th-gen Camaro. It has been proven many times by guys who have gone into Chevy dealerships and asked salesmen and sales managers questions about the car, and brought the "answers" back here ..... many dealers do NOT have a CLUE what they're talking about, they simply want to get your business, make the sale, so they'll tell you just about ANYTHING to get you interested/excited about the car. Heck, they've quoted the concept's specs as what the production car will really have (ie: 400 HP LS2) and we all know that's NOT what we're getting!

As far as reading other websites and/or listening to what your friends have to say ... I'm not going to discredit their information, but considering a few of the members who post on here and their "insider" knowledge, I think some of the information found here on CZ28.com about the 5th-gen Camaro is probably second to none :shrug:.
dont threaten me about being kicked off. if you want me out ..do it. this isnt my life. i only get on here to get new info about the car.ive never really got into these chat forums and i really dont like them but this is my only source to new camaro information right now. as soon as it comes out and i get it .... im gone like the wind.
I don't think you need to be kicked off for voicing your opinions, but I don't think other people appreciate being "flamed" for voicing theirs, and you disagree with them because YOU think YOU are right :rolleyes:. And if you don't stick around beyond production/purchase of the car? Well ...... :shrug:

As far as discussing the PRICE of the 5th-gen (that was the original purpose of this thread, right? ;)) all I have to say is that I don't think it should be ONE PENNY MORE than a similarily equipped Mustang (ie: V6/V6, or GT/Z28). A Camaro sale should NEVER be lost to a Mustang over the price.

That's my $.02!! :cool:

Seeing who your sources are... it's extremely unlikely you are going to break any new news here. Keep an open mind when you post "facts". Your "facts" may be nothing more than false rumors.

:)

There has been little to no change in the Camaro's launch, or any of the info about the launch.
We know that production will probably start in about a year or so. Around this time next year, we will also have pricing information. Im sure that there will be a lot more info on the net before this time next year, as tidbits of info trickle out.
In fact, Im sure that we will know a bit more info once a pre-production car hits the shows. Take the Malibu for instance. We knew information about powertrain, interior design, and other technical info when it hit Detroit in Jan. Im sure that at that point, we will know what we are dealing with, and can get a pretty good guess of what pricing is gunna be.

....theres been alot of news people have said (from gm) and then people on here are controdicting what that person has said. no who are you supposed to believe?Really? Where? I have seen nothing official from GM updating what was previously reported.

"Rumor" does not equal "news".

yeah.. when they announced they were going to build it, they said production starts 4th qtr 2008, and it'll be in showrooms 1st qtr 2009.. as far as i know that hasnt changed

I'm sure there is a missing disclaimer of "could be" ..... meaning the Camaro "could be" in dealerships by late '08. Not that it's impossible either. I mean, production IS supposed to start sometime next fall, so there WILL be cars built. Really, there is no reason that GM can't distribute a few of them to various dealers soon after, BEFORE the end of the year, so that people can walk in and SEE the car that they're ordering.

Sit back, grab the bag of popcorn, and let's all wait and see! :cool:

ed pepper says end of 08 beginning of 09 for the car to BE IN DEALERSHIPS.
Since when does "end of 08 beginning of 09" mean October 08?

did i say october? i dont think i said anything about october. however october would start the last quarter of 08. but no i never said anything about october.You're right... I was confusing you with someone else. :D

However...
http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/archives/2006/08/cruising_with_t.html

FWIW
GM Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner met with members of the media Friday at the Athens Coney Island in Royal Oak, Mich., to talk about the Chevrolet Camaro. The new Camaro will be built at the Oshawa, Ontario, car plant with early production versions at the end of 2008 and sales in early 2009.

Posted by Editor on August 22, 2006 5:19 PM

It is a POSSIBILITY that Camaro will hit SOME, perhaps a very small number, BEFORE 2009.
That means a Camaro COULD POSSIBLY be in a dealer show room before December 31st, 2008.
Thats if everything goes smoothly, preproduction runs have zero problems, no last min changes are needed, or any other problems. Id still say to expect a full launch of Camaro's after the new year.

^ ^ HOWEVER, large corporations ALSO have big fancy "plans" (which attempt to account for plans falling apart) and then those plans still fall apart ;). I work for a big corporation (not GM) ... I know what it's like ;).

Also explains why the car could be decided on, designed, presented as a concept, yet not actually BUILT for a number of years. "Big wheels turn slow". At this point, let's just stay hopeful that nothing does interrupt "the plan" and the car is, in fact, released for sale at the beginning of 2009 :cool:.

i agree with most of what you say but i dont think there is going to be 2 v6 versions. and the big boy v8 whether 6.2 s/c or 7.0 will NOT be at 30,000. there is no way. it would be nice , but , its not going to happen.

Agreed, the GTO w/400 HP LS2 was around 34k. Don't expect the "big-boy" V8 Camaro to be any less 2-3 years later.

Agreed, the GTO w/400 HP LS2 was around 34k. Don't expect the "big-boy" V8 Camaro to be any less 2-3 years later.


IIRC, the GTO was pretty much fully loaded from the get-go. (And didn't people within GM admit they overpriced it?)

Yeah, I expect a fully loaded 400ish HP Camaro to be around $32-$34,000 when it comes out (non-convertible). Price a loaded Mustang GT, it's in the same price range. So not an unreasonable price imo.

20,000 base, to 31,000 topV8 (I assume base trim in each :shrug:)....check the video section here, for an interview with Lutz. He says that to have a business case for the car, that's the pricing it must have.

unless somebody else that's as informed, and high-up as he is says different...That's the guide I'm going by.<== note the italics, I did not say this was exact pricing.

I dont think that the 20k base price is reasonable, I wouldnt be upset if it started at 23k for a 260-270hp V6 with a 6spd manual or 24k with automatic. I think thats MORE then reasonable.
V8 car starts at around 27k, 28k with auto.
I still think that a 3 V8 set up would be a heck of a deal.
350hp L98 from the G8, a 430hp LS3 SS, and a 500hp LS8 Z28.

Most dealers couldn't tell you very much about the product they already have sitting in their showrooms, so what makes you think they know everything there is to know about a car they won't even get until 15-18 months from now? Seriously...... :lol:

Are dealers really taking deposits on Camaros when they really have no concrete information on it ? Especially trims and pricing? I would think GM would highly frown upon that, IMO.



IIRC, the GTO was pretty much fully loaded from the get-go. (And didn't people within GM admit they overpriced it?)

Yeah, I expect a fully loaded 400ish HP Camaro to be around $32-$34,000 when it comes out (non-convertible). Price a loaded Mustang GT, it's in the same price range. So not an unreasonable price imo.

Agreed, upon its initial launch, the LS1 GTO was admittedly overpriced; probably why I ended up with a good chunk of the 7k I got off the sticker. The rest of the discount, IMO, was because of the poor marketing GM did with it. By the time the 05 GTO got the 400 hp LS2 and the aesthetic changes of hood scoops and a 2-side dual exhaust, the cars sold much better at effectively the same sticker price. Plus, they had another year to enhance their marketing campaign. Still, all in all, obviously GM pulled a major blunder in its decision to produce and release the GTO ( at least in that style ) or they'd still be making them. And to your other question, I think I had (2) yes two options available on the car, as did those who bought the 05/06 models- color and transmission.

So, I'm amending my pricing guess to 22-25k V6 models and 29-32k V8 models. I just don't see the top end Camaro being in the 28-29k price range of the top end Mustang, nor do I see the lowest end Camaro rivaling the 20-21k Mustang pricing. I mean, come on, my loaded 96 Z-28 stickered at just over 25k over 10 years ago. Just inflation would account for 5-7k IMO.