What are some of the best ways to hide your spray?

95z28man
08-26-2007, 09:46 PM
I've been considering nitrous sometime after I get my h/c installed. I was watching Fast and Furious earlier and it got me thinking of a cool way hide the fact that I have nitrous, similar to Vin Diesels RX-7 where he turns some knob and the button pops out of the dash. Anyone have any pics or anything of a cool setup you have seen, or maybe have one yourself?

Ray@NitroDaves
08-27-2007, 10:48 AM
this is a hard question to answer...cuz if they do their kit isn't hidden anymore

We have severel different hidden system's but we don't advertise them or show any photos or go into details about them. THis is our way of protecting the people that have them.

JJJ93z
08-27-2007, 12:27 PM
This is not really a F&F method, but Back in high school I had my bottle mounted in the spare wheel well ,as well as well as a set of brackets mounted in the storage area with a "dummy" line coming out of the plastic, as to show that the car has N20 but the bottle is out and being "filled up." It worked very well! :death:

95z28man
08-27-2007, 06:56 PM
Oop's I didn't realize this was a sensitive subject. I was just looking for some ideas on how to hide my own when I get it. The wheel well was where I was planning on putting the bottle. I guess I'll use my imagination and come up with my own way to setup the dash.
Thanks for letting me know...

buzz12586
08-27-2007, 08:47 PM
This is not really a F&F method, but Back in high school I had my bottle mounted in the spare wheel well ,as well as well as a set of brackets mounted in the storage area with a "dummy" line coming out of the plastic, as to show that the car has N20 but the bottle is out and being "filled up." It worked very well! :death:

Yea sometimes a little misdirection is an easier way to go. That way you don't have to hide anything under the hood, you simply show that your "bottle" is out of the car.

11secgen
08-27-2007, 10:50 PM
i put the bottle in my 95 under the battery/front pass wheel well where the horns are.my nozzle is in the air box,right by the air filter on my twin tube slp cai.its a dry shot.i had to custom fab a bottle bracket to bolt it to 2 existing holes, but it is impossable to detect.

TurboSS
08-28-2007, 03:16 AM
2 systems 2 bottles
take one bottle out in front of your victim

I would go for launch parts before hidding a nitrous system

Or you could get a 9-11second streetable GNX.... most ppl have forgotten they exist.:eek:

Z-RATED94
08-28-2007, 10:25 AM
So if you set up a race at the track and the other guy asks if your spraying, you look him in the face and say no? I never did get that. A friends freind does the, "I'll take the bottle out", and has another one hidden. What exactly is the point? Someone enlighten me.

buzz12586
08-28-2007, 10:41 AM
So if you set up a race at the track and the other guy asks if your spraying, you look him in the face and say no? I never did get that. A friends freind does the, "I'll take the bottle out", and has another one hidden. What exactly is the point? Someone enlighten me.


Because you are trying to take their money.

Z-RATED94
08-28-2007, 02:19 PM
Because you are trying to take their money.

No kidding. :rolleyes: And this does what? Makes you feel good, because you fooled the other guy?

Ray@NitroDaves
08-28-2007, 02:35 PM
No kidding. :rolleyes: And this does what? Makes you feel good, because you fooled the other guy?


no it makes you feel good cuz your pocket is heavier ;)

but this is coming from a guy that played pool for a living for 5+ years

Z-RATED94
08-28-2007, 02:46 PM
no it makes you feel good cuz your pocket is heavier ;)

but this is coming from a guy that played pool for a living for 5+ years

Well, I do have a very big friend. But he doesn't play bodyguard for free, if you know what I mean. ;)

JJJ93z
08-28-2007, 03:10 PM
No kidding. :rolleyes: And this does what? Makes you feel good, because you fooled the other guy?

Its all about the hustle son!

Z-RATED94
08-28-2007, 03:21 PM
Its all about the hustle son!

BTDT, some people don't take kindly to it. It's one thing to take someones money because they can't play the game. It's another, when someone finds out you were not honest about whether you intend to spray or not. Raced much?

JJJ93z
08-28-2007, 10:58 PM
BTDT, some people don't take kindly to it. It's one thing to take someones money because they can't play the game. It's another, when someone finds out you were not honest about whether you intend to spray or not. Raced much?


Very true, a lot of people don't liked being had and I have experienced some bad situations, however like I said in my original post, I used that method back in highschool and have since changed my ways and views on a lot of things! I probably should have put a ;) face at the end of my last comment to denote sarcasm! Sorry you took it personal.

TurboSS
08-29-2007, 03:15 AM
It is all about the hustle.

Cars are a battle of smarts.

The smartest person goes the fastest.
...Yes it takes some money...
But I have seen super budget not so safe street race cars from the getto get kicked off the track.

2 systems 2 bottles
take one bottle out in front of your victim


I did NOT say to look a person in the face and Lie.
You let them hear what they want to hear.

Hustle #1
Them: you think your fast
You: maybe ,,,wanna run
Them: Are you running Nitrous?
You: Yes
Them: I'll run you If you don't run spray
You: I'll take the bottle out
Them: Ok lets take it out
You: << pull one bottle and never say.. your are or are not running nitrous...they are just assuming


Hustle #2
Them: you think your fast
You: maybe,,, wanna run
Them: Are you running Nitrous?
You: Yes
Them: I'll run you If you don't run spray
You: I'll take the bottle out
Them: Ok lets take it out
You: << pull one bottle... dis arm the second system and go wheels up on motor!!! then race there faster buddy for double with the system on

I have never pulled any shananagins like this.
In CA the penalty for street racing is from wild to insane.
And it takes several acts of God and a full 12 hours at the track to arrange a single grudge match at California Speedway.
Street justice could get out of hand really easy.
But you have to be a real puss to wanna fight cause I just blew the doors off your ,supra , evo, or whatever 2900lb sports car in my full weight full option 4500lb 4 door. Running a heavy modded f-body with a Busa and telling the F-body owner about the Pete under the seat of your race bike is less than honorable IMHO.


I was watching Fast and Furious earlier and it got me thinking of a cool way hide the fact that I have nitrous,

Modeling your car concept and life after a fairytail hollywood movie is not the greatest idea. If you want to be like Fast and the Furious try robbing 18 wheelers in a civic to pay for mods on your ride.

I made my car for me. It is a manifestation of my skill and imagination. Not the conerstone of my ego. No one is the fastest. And for the .000000000001% that is the fastest it don't last long till faster comes along.

Z-RATED94
08-29-2007, 09:41 AM
Very true, a lot of people don't liked being had and I have experienced some bad situations, however like I said in my original post, I used that method back in highschool and have since changed my ways and views on a lot of things! I probably should have put a ;) face at the end of my last comment to denote sarcasm! Sorry you took it personal.

No problem. I just wouldn't like it if a race was set up with the intention of running NA, only to find out about a hidden Nitrous set-up and or a second bottle, when you see the guy pull the first one out. I guess I would just like to see a little honor involved when its time to line them up. But we don't live in a perfect world, do we? I'll stop bitching now. ;)

Nitro Dave
08-29-2007, 10:56 AM
Hustling does not always mean being dishonest. Have you ever heard race what you brung?
This is where a hidden system comes in. Have a puny crappy looking system on the car with a hardcore system hidden. Its a mind over mater type thing. Dont ask dont tell.lol

Now everyone hates a liar. The key is not to lie. Just never show your full hand.
Dave

buzz12586
08-29-2007, 11:08 AM
No kidding. :rolleyes: And this does what? Makes you feel good, because you fooled the other guy?


So I take it when you play poker you never bluff??

Z-RATED94
08-29-2007, 02:37 PM
So I take it when you play poker you never bluff??

Some just don't get my perspective on this. That's ok though.
And Dave, I get your point, and like it the best. Yeah, I'm spraying.

buzz12586
08-29-2007, 03:48 PM
I really don't see how spraying when you say you aren't going to is any different than a turbo car running more boost than he says he is.

11secgen
08-29-2007, 04:22 PM
BTDT, some people don't take kindly to it. It's one thing to take someones money because they can't play the game. It's another, when someone finds out you were not honest about whether you intend to spray or not. Raced much?

z rated and i are from chicago/burbs,id say at least a couple of people are shot over this issue every year in this area, prob more.ive seen countless people get jumped by a mob of people for hidding spray. thats why you have to use split fuel line and electrical tape over your nitrous lines and forget the extra bottle,you have to hide all the spray either under the manifold or dry shot it into the cai and say you have no spray.ive seen a guy with fittings comming out of the back of his block for an under-plumbed fogger tbi setup.chicagos south side has a bunch of thugs that use there drug dealing money to buy 8 sec cars to race on the street,all the other street racers follow suit with the same type of attitude.i havent been caught yet, but my whole car has payed for itself!

p.s.,i dont race f-bodys for money its a respect thing.i also dont hustle people who look like they might shoot me, its a calculated risk!

95z28man
08-29-2007, 10:54 PM
Modeling your car concept and life after a fairytail hollywood movie is not the greatest idea. If you want to be like Fast and the Furious try robbing 18 wheelers in a civic to pay for mods on your ride.

Your taking what I posted WAY too literally and blowing it out of propertion by saying something like "modeling my car and LIFE after a fairy tale hollywood movie":confused:

Just to clarify... I, in no way want to model anything in my car or life after F&F. I don't like the movie or the cars in it. Never have. I simply have future plans of spraying after I install my h/c. I was watching TV and that movie came on... I saw the race where the nitrous was concealed in the car... I then thought that was a cool idea, nothing more, and was wondering what some of you guys were doing to hide your nitrous. The only reason I was even asking it was because it struck me as good way to keep the interior of my car looking completely stock (one of my goals). I had NO plan whatsoever to "copy" exactly what I saw in the movie, it just gave me an idea, nothing more.

Just wanted to clear that up since you seem to have decided that I was modeling my car and/or life after what I saw in a rice movie.

Nitro Dave
08-30-2007, 11:25 AM
Forget about the money side for a minute and lets talk about fun... Nothing is funner than going out with a hidden system on the car and just completely putting a smack down on someone. You go park and pop your hood and they come up checking your car over saying damn that thing is fast while scratching there head.

WS6NIGHTMARE
08-30-2007, 03:51 PM
No kidding. :rolleyes: And this does what? Makes you feel good, because you fooled the other guy?
Theres no rules in a street race, even if it happens at the track. I learned years ago theres 2 kinds of people in a street race.....cheaters and losers.

Just never show your full hand.

Ive been saying that for years, never admit to more than they can see.

97SS0594
08-30-2007, 05:44 PM
you can fit a 10 lb bottle inder the passenger side dash, its a tight fit, but it fits., install your nozzle close to the air filter so that its in your fender well. keep the solinoids and wites inside the fender well, if you have a wet kit put a 90 degree fitting on the fuel port to keep the line low. an alternet spot for the noids is on the fire wall behind the motor, i had my zex box painted white (same color as the car) and mounted behind the motor low, it was a pain getting it back there but no one could see it. just remember this... if you dont pinch your hand, cut your hand or smash your hands your not hiding the kit well enough!

Z-RATED94
09-01-2007, 01:27 PM
Theres no rules in a street race, even if it happens at the track. I learned years ago theres 2 kinds of people in a street race.....cheaters and losers.



Ive been saying that for years, never admit to more than they can see.

Very profound. Only two kinds, cheaters and losers. That's what you believe? You never saw a properly set up sleeper? Ever play dumb?
The second part is correct. Ask me no questions. Because what you can see is what you get. The only thing I won't do is take a bottle out and say I'm not spraying, when I am. That's called lying, and I'm not doing that. But playing dumb is pretty easy, when your me. ;)

WS6NIGHTMARE
09-01-2007, 02:05 PM
Very profound. Only two kinds, cheaters and losers. That's what you believe? You never saw a properly set up sleeper? Ever play dumb?
The second part is correct. Ask me no questions. Because what you can see is what you get. The only thing I won't do is take a bottle out and say I'm not spraying, when I am. That's called lying, and I'm not doing that. But playing dumb is pretty easy, when your me. ;)

:lol: Well thats the way I see it when theres money on it. If its just a gets & giggles race, then its whatever, but I never pop my hood anyway. But who builds a sleeper then calls it that when the money is on it? They dont. Sleepers get called stock, thus, lying. Not Im not saying your dumb, but in a race with a little monetary value on it, your dumb to believe the guy is going to tell you everything. If everyone knew your ET, then you would always lose. So sneaky, cheaters, dumb, its all the same. I learned years ago you dont lay all your cards down for the world to see, only enough to let them think they have a chance.

Z-RATED94
09-01-2007, 11:49 PM
What part of this don't you understand? I'm not going to hand someone a detailed list of all my mods. And very rarely is someone going to bother asking you more than a question or two about the car. And if they do, do they really believe your answers? How would you know if their telling the truth about their car? Why even ask? As far as a sleeper goes, it's not going to look as if it might not be a runner, just how fast it is, is the part that you won't know. As mentioned mulitple times, if you see a bottle, ask if he's going to spray, he says no and takes it out only to use a hidden one, is the thing I think is wrong. I'll say it one more time. My word is worth something to me. If it isn't to you that's fine.
When your racing for money you can't take to many things for granted. Would you believe someone with a small block if you asked if it was stock cubes? How about the size of his converter, gears, etc. Why bother asking? Just know what you have and figure out if you have the other guy covered. But now you through into the mix a guy that out and out lies. Not cool in my book, but to each their own.

WS6NIGHTMARE
09-02-2007, 01:49 AM
Calm down tiger...We're just talkin. If I promise you anything else in life, believe I will deliver, but like I said, its the difference between a nothing race, and a race for something. If someone says they run 13, I assume they run 12, at least.

My advice to you is never run it for money, youre not gonna like it.

Z-RATED94
09-02-2007, 02:21 AM
Calm down tiger...We're just talkin. If I promise you anything else in life, believe I will deliver, but like I said, its the difference between a nothing race, and a race for something. If someone says they run 13, I assume they run 12, at least.

My advice to you is never run it for money, youre not gonna like it.

Iv'e won far more than I lost sport. Been doing this off and on for about 35 years. Just look em in the eyes and that tells you as much as checking out their car. Heres a small tip. Don't race someone that comes back a few weeks later, looking for a re-match. Unless you where holding back or made some improvements yourself in that time frame. ;)

WS6NIGHTMARE
09-02-2007, 02:47 AM
Iv'e won far more than I lost sport. Been doing this off and on for about 35 years. Just look em in the eyes and that tells you as much as checking out their car. Heres a small tip. Don't race someone that comes back a few weeks later, looking for a re-match. Unless you where holding back or made some improvements yourself in that time frame. ;)

Oh your an old schooler:cool:

How about when someone you just beat wants a rematch for money and they offer you 2! :lol: like its not a giveaway at that point.

Z-RATED94
09-02-2007, 03:12 AM
Oh your an old schooler:cool:

How about when someone you just beat wants a rematch for money and they offer you 2! :lol: like its not a giveaway at that point.

Exactly, but were you holding back and by how much? How much do they want to go for? Double or nothing? I'll take the hit too if somethig like that pops up. Cant get satisfaction from them? Then just walk away.

WS6NIGHTMARE
09-02-2007, 03:25 AM
Exactly, but were you holding back and by how much? How much do they want to go for? Double or nothing? I'll take the hit too if somethig like that pops up. Cant get satisfaction from them? Then just walk away.

It was years ago when I still had my old TPI car, beat him by one, he offered me 2 and the move for $100. I was all out, so was he, for all motor anyway. He said he didnt have nitrous, but I wasnt going for it, and he later admitted to the nitrous anyway. Back then I would tell ya what my car had, but I learned that too often people dont share the same honesty, and I got hustled. Its just a lesson learned and I chalked it up. I learned to not give it any more than I needed to win, and be forgetful of what my car had in it;). Of course this was an old 3rd gen, and you know the slow rep those got, so I was under estimated no matter what I said.

With these LS1's people are too aware of quiet cars nowadays, and if you wont pop the hood, you've become suspect. But in the end, its run what ya brung.

OneFlyn95z28
09-02-2007, 01:30 PM
Hidden systems have been on my cars longer then I can remember. I had one you could only Find on the car if you were pulling the transmission of the dash ;)


NOW. . . . IF you want to pay the cash to look under the hood this is what you will get ;)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/picsaplenty/ellis/Picture008.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/picsaplenty/ellis/Picture009.jpg



Anyone notice the 200+HP Money Maker kit?



I didn't think so :D

Z-RATED94
09-02-2007, 01:50 PM
Nice set-up you have there. Heres another one, back when I was 20 or so, met a trans guy that raced alot. Had one of the first nitrous setups I ever saw. He had it set up to the horn relay, and only blipped it enough during a run to stay just ahead of the other guy. They always wanted to run again, thinking next time they could take him. ;)

OneFlyn95z28
09-02-2007, 10:23 PM
So someone told you how I fire the system. Not fair!

There were NO telltail signs from the inside of this car either :D

Z-RATED94
09-02-2007, 10:27 PM
So someone told you how I fire the system. Not fair!

There were NO telltail signs from the inside of this car either :D

I don't see it, but would wonder why the fuel rail steel braided lines were so big. ;)

northdakota93z28
09-02-2007, 11:30 PM
who r u hidding from your mommys

fasteddie94
09-03-2007, 12:05 AM
It's in the elbow. If I'm looking for spray I'm going to check three places right off the bat.

1) elbow and other intake tubing
2) The maf
3) The fuel rails

I could be wrong about you setup. It may not be in the elbow but unless I don't know Jack about cars that throws up a red flag. Either way at a casual glance most wouldn't notice. Especially at night since there isn't some braided line or adonized fittings starring back at you.

I always wanted to hide a N2O setup for the sleeper side of it. Not to race for money but just the fun of spanking someone that never saw it coming.