which SFC would you get for a DD?

i know this has all been beat to death, but between these TWO which would you get for a daily driver and WHY?

http://www.spohn.net/product.cfm?productid=1394

or

http://www.umiperformance.com/2003?category_id=129


THANKS for your input.

Spohn, because all that extra bracing isn't needed.

Spohn, because all that extra bracing isn't needed.

Really? I wish I would have asked before installing the KBDD subframe and the Spohn chassis mounted TA that connects to it, which Steve thought was the way to go. :rolleyes:

Zrated, are you saying the spohns TA is worthless or the KBDD SFCs are no good?

what are KBDD SFCs?

I think the Spohn one's will be fine...I have a set of Hotchkis on mine since 1995 and they are similar in design...There's a custom shop around here that makes their own out of CM and they are the best I've ever seen for fit, finish, etc and they are the 2 point style...Guys in the 8s and 9s use them so I guess they are working...

--Alan

Zrated, are you saying the spohns TA is worthless or the KBDD SFCs are no good?

what are KBDD SFCs?

Both are excellent pieces. The Kenny Brown Double Diamond sub-frame connecter might be overkill, but I wouldn't change a thing. The Spohn front mount of the TA ties into it, to make one very solid set-up. Steve at Spohn, said this was a fine way to connect the TA. Rick

I'd go with boxed BMRs, they make a good place to put a jackstand
But between those 2, probably the Spohns. I dont think the extra bracing on the UMIs is all that valuable unless you have a tunnel mount torque arm.

I have the spohns works perfect for me plenty of ground clearance even with a 2 inch drop immediatly noticed a nice difference especially getting in and out of driveways and ofcourse cornering as well. Car feels way more solid, well worth the mod for me.

thanks for the input fellas. think i'll just get the spohns. im getting spohn LCAs and SA panhard installed next week!

thanks for the input fellas. think i'll just get the spohns. im getting spohn LCAs and SA panhard installed next week!

Pay the little extra and get the adjustable panhard rod. That way you can keep the rear of the car centered over the rearend. This is a must have for using drop springs or even if the stock ones start to sag a little.

Pay the little extra and get the adjustable panhard rod. That way you can keep the rear of the car centered over the rearend. This is a must have for using drop springs or even if the stock ones start to sag a little.

i am...single adjsutable (SA)...sorry i thought thats what that meant...?

Really? I wish I would have asked before installing the KBDD subframe and the Spohn chassis mounted TA that connects to it, which Steve thought was the way to go. :rolleyes:

Its a daily driver, not a drag car.
Who ever Steve is. Talk to Sam Strano and see what his opinions on SFC's are in general. Even if dragging is your thing, there are plenty of 11 and 10 sec cars not running a DD set up w/out issues so why add the weight? ;)

yea im not adding them for cornering...i've talked to sam.

but i do want to tighten things up.

Its a daily driver, not a drag car.
Who ever Steve is. Talk to Sam Strano and see what his opinions on SFC's are in general. Even if dragging is your thing, there are plenty of 11 and 10 sec cars not running a DD set up w/out issues so why add the weight? ;)

Your right. What was I thinking? All that weight from the extra support is useless. And yeah, who's Steve anyways.

Steve is Steve Spohn...He may know a few things about drag racing...who knows?;)

--Alan

Hmmm...you'd think Sam Strano would know a thing or two about suspensions and chassis also. You'd also think all these other companies that sell tubular SFC's w/out the cross bracing would know something too. Or maybe all the shops and individuals not running crossbracing on their drag cars.

Does it hurt? No. Is it necessary? No. Does a daily driven car need a full cage? No. Does it hurt? No, but it looks cool and you can add it to your sig!

I went with http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F-bodyChassis.htm SFC004 - Hardtop Tubular Subframe Connectors(1993-2002 F-body) for my '93Z DD.... Had them since 2001 and no problems....:)

Good ground clearance......

I like the SLP weld ins or the UMI setup, I'd rather have the extra bracing, I've had two 97 SSs' and I'm picking up my third next weekend. On my first one I had Global West round tube that fit next to the rocker panel and they stiffened the car but on my second car I had the SLP weld ins and the car felt much stiffer and I like the way the car felt. I'm going to get the Slp weldins for the new one as well.

thanks for all the input.

i just bought an SLP LM II so the SFCs will have to wait a bit.

but thanks again...i'll probably go with the 3 point.

thanks for all the input.

i just bought an SLP LM II so the SFCs will have to wait a bit.

but thanks again...i'll probably go with the 3 point.

Is there an echo in here. ;)