Interesting Mustang option

Andy30thZ
08-16-2007, 04:58 PM
I just noticed you can order a new Premium Mustang GT with 3.55 gears as a stand alone option! When was the last CAR you saw with optional gearing not in a package? Too bad you can't get them in the basic deluxe model like you could in 2007.... Why does the cool gearing options always come with stuff I don't need!!!!!

Think my '09 base V8 6speed Camaro will have optional gears available? I sure hope so!! (Who the hell wants to attempt gearing an independent rear.....not me!!!)

CamaroBoy96Z28
08-16-2007, 05:25 PM
That and the gear is warrantied. I wouldnt expect 4.11s or anything to be an option but I dont see why gear ratio cant be a completely independent option of all the bs option group garbage. Not like you're changing harnesses or anything to operate gadgets.

Andy30thZ
08-16-2007, 07:38 PM
I was kind of thinking if Ford could offer 1/4 point lower gear ratio, why couldn't GM? 3.42's or 3.73's? Optional gearing would be sweet! I'd pony up the $350 extra for them!

OutsiderIROC-Z
09-23-2007, 12:51 PM
That and the gear is warrantied. I wouldnt expect 4.11s or anything to be an option but I dont see why gear ratio cant be a completely independent option of all the bs option group garbage. Not like you're changing harnesses or anything to operate gadgets.

Very much agreed. :yes:

LeadSled1
09-23-2007, 02:12 PM
4th gens had optional gearing. GU5 option. 3.23 versus 2.73 in the automatics.

OutsiderIROC-Z
10-01-2007, 08:27 PM
4th gens had optional gearing. GU5 option. 3.23 versus 2.73 in the automatics.

Not much to choose from...

Andy30thZ
10-03-2007, 07:35 AM
4th gens had optional gearing. GU5 option. 3.23 versus 2.73 in the automatics.

I had forgotten about that! Was that a stand alone gear option? Or was it included in a package?

I just think it would be cool when you were ordering your new Camaro if you could check a box for lower gears, without getting leather and a navigation system blahblahblah....

sselie
10-03-2007, 08:41 AM
I just noticed you can order a new Premium Mustang GT with 3.55 gears as a stand alone option! When was the last CAR you saw with optional gearing not in a package? Too bad you can't get them in the basic deluxe model like you could in 2007.... Why does the cool gearing options always come with stuff I don't need!!!!!

Think my '09 base V8 6speed Camaro will have optional gears available? I sure hope so!! (Who the hell wants to attempt gearing an independent rear.....not me!!!)

The Ford guys have good memories! When I ordered my 5-speed '85 Mustang GT ragtop, I was able to specify an optional 3.08 ratio as opposed to the 2.73 that came standard. It was not part of any package and although I don't remember the exact cost, I do remember that it was very inexpensive. Somewhere in my files is a letter from Ford of Canada indicating that there were something like 24 1985 GT 'verts with 5-speed, A/C and 3.08s produced for Canada.
I've talked about making optional ratios available on the 5th Gen to various people...

Best regardSS,

Elie

Liquid Slap
10-04-2007, 08:27 AM
What happens differently with different gear ratios? I am not into suping up cars and what not. I just buy em and drive em.

Ron78Z&01SS
10-04-2007, 09:57 AM
Numerically higher gear ratios generally give you quicker acceleration.

Z28Wilson
10-04-2007, 01:08 PM
Numerically higher gear ratios generally give you quicker acceleration.

And lower fuel economy, since your RPMs are generally higher at a given speed.

4THGEN Z
10-04-2007, 01:25 PM
I had forgotten about that! Was that a stand alone gear option? Or was it included in a package?

I just think it would be cool when you were ordering your new Camaro if you could check a box for lower gears, without getting leather and a navigation system blahblahblah....

IIRC (at least for 1995) it was a stand alone option but for auto 1LE cars it was included. It also included the "1" on the gear selector whereas 2.73 cars had only OD, D and 2

99SilverSS
10-12-2007, 03:29 AM
I think GM would do well to offer very individual options like gears and trim. I'd like to think of what Porsche or Mini Cooper has done.

One issue to contend with is certification for fuel economy and tall gears present a challenge on a V8 car.

Andy30thZ
10-13-2007, 07:25 PM
I think GM would do well to offer very individual options like gears and trim. I'd like to think of what Porsche or Mini Cooper has done.

One issue to contend with is certification for fuel economy and tall gears present a challenge on a V8 car.

I agree to an extent....
I have 4.10's in a stock LT1 M6 car and only lost 2mpg and was beating it a lot!! i think with more conservative driving I would have only lost 1mpg.
Lower gears might not necessarily make you faster..... But they are definitely more fun!

ws6transam
10-15-2007, 01:06 PM
My '84 was originally a factory ordered car, and it was factory equipped with an optional 3.73:1 limited slip differential.

Over the years the F-body top ratio has dropped from 4.11 to 3.73 to 3.42 to 3.23:1 but it wouldn't surprise me to see some 3.42's back on the list, especially with a manual transmission.

99SilverSS
10-15-2007, 04:12 PM
I agree to an extent....
I have 4.10's in a stock LT1 M6 car and only lost 2mpg and was beating it a lot!! i think with more conservative driving I would have only lost 1mpg.
Lower gears might not necessarily make you faster..... But they are definitely more fun!

I agree but GM must pay a lot to certify any new trans/engine/gear combo. That being said they are unlikely to pay that for anything with less MPG. The new EPA ratings are quite a bit tighter and going to get worse. CAFE requirements are the reason that some GM programs like a RWD Impala are on hold. This is very serious stuff.

But no need to worry as the aftermarket will certainly get all the gear ratio's needed.

Andy30thZ
10-16-2007, 11:55 AM
But no need to worry as the aftermarket will certainly get all the gear ratio's needed.

True, but I don't know if I want to tackle an IFS gear swap....

Where is the damn Rugged Live Axle Option!!! I'm tired of glass rear ends...

Severous01
11-08-2007, 09:52 PM
yeah...about GM and their 'options'...

i tried to order a base model cobalt with a SC engine and they wouldnt even listen to me. they told me to order a base model car and put in a wrecked engine or buy a new one and have a mechanic install it. the only way to get the SC engine was to buy the whole SC car...what a load

remember back when you could basically build the car how you wanted? just tell them what you want like at mcdonnalds or something...and in a week or two you got it...what the heck happened?

Dragoneye
11-08-2007, 10:27 PM
That would probably be cause the base model comes with a 2.2L engine...not a S/C one...

That engine was low-production (relatively) and trim-specific...When could you ever cross engines and trims that don't belong together?

CLEAN
11-09-2007, 06:33 PM
You can get an optional rear gear on the A6 C6 as a stand alone, though it is also part of the Z51 package if you get that.

TrickStang37
12-04-2007, 03:33 AM
yeah...about GM and their 'options'...

i tried to order a base model cobalt with a SC engine and they wouldnt even listen to me. they told me to order a base model car and put in a wrecked engine or buy a new one and have a mechanic install it. the only way to get the SC engine was to buy the whole SC car...what a load

remember back when you could basically build the car how you wanted? just tell them what you want like at mcdonnalds or something...and in a week or two you got it...what the heck happened?

dont blame the dealership, blame the manufacturer.

STOCK1SC
12-04-2007, 09:35 AM
About the only vehicles left that you can customize with options are trucks. Chevy has about 1 million different build combinations for the Silverado, although you are stil limited to certain engines with certain packages though.