97 z28 vs turbo eagle talon *VIDS*

Here's vids. No explanation needed really. The guy was pretty cool, i gave him a thumbs up and he said "daily driver", to which i responded "same here". Other video coming tomorrow (from a roll)

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0756a498-1cab-4f65-a9f1-9987000bef16.htm

lol, ironic you would post this, I also raced a turbo talon tonite, I think I bent a rod, and im pretty sure his motor is shot aswell, blowed oil everywhere. 1 race, 2 cars down :P

lol, ironic you would post this, I also raced a turbo talon tonite, I think I bent a rod, and im pretty sure his motor is shot aswell, blowed oil everywhere. 1 race, 2 cars down :P

haha, that sucks man. Who won?

He looked pretty stock to me. There's really no way one with appreciable mods would go down so easily. You passed that thing like it was a Geo Metro.

Remember, they were 92 mph cars in stock form. That's pretty sad by today's standards - even my mom's Hyundai traps 99-100. My Dodge truck could probably handle a stock turbo DSM. 15+ years of automotive evoloution will do that to ya.

He looked pretty stock to me. There's really no way one with appreciable mods would go down so easily. You passed that thing like it was a Geo Metro.

I have no idea if he was stock, but he had the 8 inch tachometer, which we all know adds 50 hp.

he might of had a few things done, or he was the turbo model, cant remember if those years were optional to come with turbos or not. nice kill though

That's what I meant -- the turbo models had a whopping 195-210hp depending on year and trapped all of 92-93 mph at best. Like many cars, they're so cheap to buy now that most are beaters owned by people who are clueless about performance.

Oh, except for the Big Ben model tach :D

haha, that sucks man. Who won?
I cant really claim the win because we was going from a roll and he said "go at this rpm" because his car was not running right, and I dont know where his "rpm" is when our cars are completely different so he said go when I go. Was all jacked up lol. If his car was running right, id lose by quite a bit.

How/why do you think you bent a rod?

My biggest loss ever was to a heavily modified talon (that looked stock) that sprayed me. He not only jumped me a few cars at the line, he continued to pull several carlengths on me after that :(

How/why do you think you bent a rod? Iv since changed my mind to a callasped lifter, oil preassure droped to zero, knocking coming from under drivers side valve cover.

Miss my 97 even though it was slow :(

Yah, and then the owner spends a few grand, and then can light all 4 tires from a roll... <- No joke. Anything with a 4G63T and AWD can easily be made into a street monster. The modern example being the EVO.

I posted my disparaging remarks above knowing full well the car's potential. I've owned quite a few of them since buying my first 92 Eclipse new. I've had them in every possible flavor - GSX, Galant VR4, 89 Mirage turbo, convertible GST, and even a GS non-turbo. The problem is when people think they're fast without doing those mods to them.

It's nothing against those cars really; it's more a statement on how fast "normal" has become in the nearly 20 years since the introduction of the first DSM -- and nearly 10 years since the last "worthwhile" model was produced.

I have a 93 Z28...Mods in sig...This guy from my area want to race me, he has 95 Turbo talon, his turbo is aftermarket, he also has a CAI that is all I know of...What is the chances of me taking him? Should I go from a roll or dig???

Thanks!!!

M

I have a 93 Z28...Mods in sig...This guy from my area want to race me, he has 95 Turbo talon, his turbo is aftermarket, he also has a CAI that is all I know of...What is the chances of me taking him? Should I go from a roll or dig???

Thanks!!!

M

if he has an AWD go from a roll if it's fwd go from a dig, gives you a better chance that way, and its hard to say who would win it depends on the size turbo he's running along with supporting mods

if he has an AWD go from a roll if it's fwd go from a dig, gives you a better chance that way, and its hard to say who would win it depends on the size turbo he's running along with supporting mods

Its AWD...My buddy said that he thinks he has the whole turbo kit and is running 10psi, CAI.

Its AWD...My buddy said that he thinks he has the whole turbo kit and is running 10psi, CAI.

ok a whole turbo kit tells me nothing about the size of the turbo. 10psi is petty boost... stock boost on those cars is around 12 psi i believe

ok a whole turbo kit tells me nothing about the size of the turbo. 10psi is petty boost... stock boost on those cars is around 12 psi i believe

well i am pretty sure that its like 8lb of boost that is stock but im sure the kid told me that he is running only 10 lb of boost anyway he is convinced that he can take me im sure he has me off the line and thats it but i think i have him after that

like i said it depends on what size turbo it is... and like i said 10lbs of boost is petty for those motors, my buddy ran 17-19psi on his fwd dsm on a small 13g when he put on a ported 14b he was running about 16psi and around 250whp then he put on an evo big 16g and was also running about 15-16psi and making around 300whp

Yeah, I dont want to say anything for sure cause I dont know too much about Talons but I guess I will have to race him and fine out...

Thanks!

M

if he is truly on 10psi I cant see his car being much of a beast from a roll but remember if he has an electronic boost controller all it takes is to push a button and the boost goes up without you knowing, or even if he has a manual one inside the car turn the knob and yea

If he doesn't have anything else done to his engine then wouldn't that hurt his engine if he turned the boost up to high...I dont know much about turbos...But I do know that this guy isn't that worried about his outside appearance cause the thing is all flat black and he has only a front bumper on it from a body kit...IDK, maybe he is going for the sleeper look...He is from a redneck town so who knows!!!

If he doesn't have anything else done to his engine then wouldn't that hurt his engine if he turned the boost up to high...I dont know much about turbos...But I do know that this guy isn't that worried about his outside appearance cause the thing is all flat black and he has only a front bumper on it from a body kit...IDK, maybe he is going for the sleeper look...He is from a redneck town so who knows!!!

many many dsm guys go for the sleeper look. and yes if he turned the boost up too much it could hurt it if the motor isnt built properly but remember my roomate's took 17-19psi daily on pump gas with a small turbo 16 with another small but larger than the first turbo and 16 with a medium sized turbo

I really hope he isn't running 8-10 psi. No matter what the turbo he'd have a hard time making even stock power levels. 18-20 would be much more useful.

I've seen 400whp DSMs with stock internals so they can handle a few extra psi.

I really hope he isn't running 8-10 psi. No matter what the turbo he'd have a hard time making even stock power levels. 18-20 would be much more useful.

I've seen 400whp DSMs with stock internals so they can handle a few extra psi.

more than agreed and was pretty much the point i wanted to get across

Tangled with a Mitsubishi (I don't know rice) 2 days ago on E_way. He was turboed. He was driving eratic and figured he would blow past (with more speed than me) a lowly 97 Camaro @ 65 and cut me off in the left lane. I droped to 3rd (with the dump open) and walked away easy. Then, did it again after we got even. (97ss 383 D1 afr_190 72# Seimens Meth Inj. M6)