kidvalor 08-07-2007, 09:35 PM Hello I am a first time poster, long time reader but I had a question. I currently own a IS250 and I'm not in love with the car but I do like the fact it has a push button ignition. My dad just recently purchased a corvette and I notice that they have this technology for it.. I was wondering if they would have this for the new camaros.. Or @ least make it a option. Eithier way I'm still trading my car in for a camaro but it would be nice if I could have this option
DAKMOR 08-07-2007, 11:03 PM I don't see push button starters to be any better than a key lock ignition.
Why do you want one?
kidvalor 08-07-2007, 11:47 PM I don't see push button starters to be any better than a key lock ignition.
Why do you want one?
I just think its a nice feature.... I love the fact that I never have to take my keys out of my pocket... I'm a bit of a clutz
Push button start is neat and very convenient if you have your hands full and all but....
What if you've just changed the fuel filter and you want to prime it a few times?
What if you're column is locked and you just want to turn the wheels a little without firing it up?
dover179 08-08-2007, 01:14 AM Push button start is neat and very convenient if you have your hands full and all but....
What if you've just changed the fuel filter and you want to prime it a few times?
What if you're column is locked and you just want to turn the wheels a little without firing it up?
If it's anything like Toyota's system, you can push the start button without your foot on the brake and it's just like having the key in the "run" position, not start. The car only starts when the brake is depressed while pushing the start button.
This will allow fuel pump priming, release of steering wheel lock, radio and window use, etc...
It's a pretty nice feature, especially if it includes the door unlocking function which unlocks the doors or trunk when you get within like a foot or two. I had a lot of customers that actually forgot they had keys and walked off with the key fob and we couldn't start the car.
DAKMOR 08-08-2007, 10:57 AM I guess you guys make a good argument. Convenience and luxury are pretty strong factors for buying a car.
But I wonder, if they put that on, it would be on all models. It sounds like it would be too expensive to make it without.
Gripenfelter 08-08-2007, 12:11 PM Push button start and paddle shifters FTW.
Bayer-Z28 08-08-2007, 11:42 PM I just think its a nice feature.... I love the fact that I never have to take my keys out of my pocket... I'm a bit of a clutz
Less chance of locking them IN the car, unless they fall out of your pocket.. I've been an idiot for locking them in the car lately.. twice in a week... :mad:
SerpentWarrior 08-15-2007, 09:16 PM my 3rd gen has a push start button hidden under the dashboard.. only because the turnkey stopped working for some reason.. so just did a little bypassing. It is cool and all.. not sure if it is better or not - unless you are refering to the keychain ignition.. then that is pretty cool and useful for warming up the car
Interceptor1 08-15-2007, 10:27 PM I think that would increase the price of the car, currently its offered only in the Vette, (not even the Tahoe or Suburban LTZ have it) so I don't think they will offer it in the Camaro, much less the base model ones.
By the way, you can use the interior accesories and everything in the Vette without starting it, you just have to push the rocker type 2 way button the other way around.
KyleW93z 08-24-2007, 09:44 AM So my rental nissan altima has a push button start, but its to expensive for the camaro. :think:
90 Z28SS 08-24-2007, 07:43 PM So my rental nissan altima has a push button start, but its to expensive for the camaro. :think:
The Nissan Sentra and alot of other cheapie cars have it too nowadays , it seems to be the latest gimmick . I gues I dont have an opinion on this . If it has it cool , if I gotta stick a key in the ignition , no problem .
If they do do it , do it right though . None of this BMW logic where u still gotta stick a fob into a ignition to push the start button . The vette system is really user friendly , so hopefully they would stick to that formula .
I would rather just see the key integrated into the remote fob 'ala Audi/Vdub . GM seems to slowly be getting with the program in this area .
Sunsceamer 09-06-2007, 11:36 AM people on scionlife forums have been adding push button start on TC's there using a honda S2000 button that comes in a $70 ebay kit. after wiring in you still need the key in on position but have the option of turning the key further or pushing the button. Even with the extra steps of pushing the button at this time its considered a lux option if installed nicely.
After the car comes out i sure someone will figure out how to wire it correctly.
OutsiderIROC-Z 09-06-2007, 12:02 PM I don't see push button starters to be any better than a key lock ignition.
+ 1
z28Power 09-14-2007, 07:44 PM Push buttons are showing up in more and more cars. IMO this could be something on the camaros that could be done without drastically increasing the price at all. My friend has an Acura, it's sweet to be able to walk up to your car and open the door just cuz the keys are in your pocket.
fastball 09-19-2007, 11:13 PM In GM's lineup, keyless ignition is currently standard on Cadillac STS and XLR and Corvette. It is optional on the 2008 CTS.
I've used it driving a Lexus as well. I think the system is very slick. A bit of a gimmick? Yeah. But it does make things alot easier when you are getting in and out of the car.
zx1216 09-20-2007, 01:05 PM i think some poeple are confused about what is going on. i think the original poster is refering to the system where you don't need to use the key at all. Jus have the key fob in your pocket and start the car with a button. Puting the key in and then pushing a button is kind of lame i agree.
Big Als Z 09-20-2007, 05:11 PM It is a big of a gimic, but its becoming standard faster on more cars from luxury cars to sub compacts. Nissan is taking full hold of the technology and using it through all of its cars. GM already has push-button remote start, the only addition the car would need is sensors to detect the key fob in the car. I dont know if it will be implemented like Caddy, where the car unlocks and locks as you walk up to or away from the car. I think THAT is a cool feature, you never have to remember if you locked your car. Decreases the risk of locking your keys in the car as well. If Nissan can built it into a mass produced low buck compact car like the Altima, Sentra and I belive even the Versa, GM could use it across the board too. This, along with HID lighting, indexing windows, and DVD navigation, are all going to be big keys to the Camaro's cool factor for those looking for a bit more then a V8 engine.
Lets not forget that the concept has push button start, so I can only assume that it has already crossed the minds of the development team.
90 Z28SS 09-21-2007, 12:36 AM GM already has push-button remote start, the only addition the car would need is sensors to detect the key fob in the car. I dont know if it will be implemented like Caddy, where the car unlocks and locks as you walk up to or away from the car. I think THAT is a cool feature, you never have to remember if you locked your car. Decreases the risk of locking your keys in the car as well. If Nissan can built it into a mass produced low buck compact car like the Altima, Sentra and I belive even the Versa, GM could use it across the board too. This, along with HID lighting, indexing windows, and DVD navigation, are all going to be big keys to the Camaro's cool factor for those looking for a bit more then a V8 engine.
Lets not forget that the concept has push button start, so I can only assume that it has already crossed the minds of the development team.
GM already has this technology in mainstream cars in other parts of the world . The Opel Astra has had this option since 2006 . Complete with a fancy key fob that just need to be on you to get in and start the car .
Bird_Of_Prey 09-25-2007, 12:30 PM Who cares if there is some ubercool l33t start button. It still requires physical contact. Key or button makes no difference to me. FWIW, C5's had proximity sensors for the fobs to lock/unlock automatically.
The "problem" with the Toyota system is if my wife has the "key" and I driver her to the mall, drop her off, and go somewhere else, the car will let me do it with no warning... If I then off the car I end up stranded... This has not actually happened to me but i did verify the possibility of it happening on a 2007 Prius. :)
EllwynX 09-25-2007, 10:50 PM Who cares if there is some ubercool l33t start button. It still requires physical contact. Key or button makes no difference to me. FWIW, C5's had proximity sensors for the fobs to lock/unlock automatically.
The new Nissan Rogue (an sub-$20,000 vehicle) also has this.
IMO it should be included w/ the Camaro, if not at the very least a low cost option.
pianoman35 09-25-2007, 11:58 PM Id much rather have them keep the traditional turn-key ignition system. If its retro, then I dont remember seeing a push button start on the 1st gen camaros, any for that matter. -_-
Rampant 09-26-2007, 12:10 PM While it is a nice convenience and I would even consider it if it was an option, there still is something to be said for turning the key and feeling the V8 bark to life. It just isn't the same pushing a button. Anything that makes a more tactile experience and lets me feel more connected to the car is a good thing in my book (for the Camaro).
Now, most other GM cars should have it standard (especially Cadillacs), but that is a different story.
Tricked-Out-Toy 09-28-2007, 01:57 PM Id love to have it. I think it offers something a little extra and from a cost stand point I really cant see it costing that much more. its not like they have to redesign it or anything. plus the door unlock feature is AWESOME.
jerminator96 09-28-2007, 03:11 PM Push button start and paddle shifters FTW.
As long as there is still a clutch pedal I wouldn't mind paddle shifters.:)
I like the push-button start idea too. But like everyone else is saying, it has to be the keyless kind.
OutsiderIROC-Z 10-01-2007, 08:46 PM The "problem" with the Toyota system is if my wife has the "key" and I driver her to the mall, drop her off, and go somewhere else, the car will let me do it with no warning... If I then off the car I end up stranded... This has not actually happened to me but i did verify the possibility of it happening on a 2007 Prius. :)
Excellent point.
Big Als Z 10-08-2007, 11:52 AM The "problem" with the Toyota system is if my wife has the "key" and I driver her to the mall, drop her off, and go somewhere else, the car will let me do it with no warning... If I then off the car I end up stranded... This has not actually happened to me but i did verify the possibility of it happening on a 2007 Prius. :)
Easy fix for that....
Dont buy a Toyota
or just make sure you get the key from your wife...you know, whatever is easier.
Liquid Slap 10-09-2007, 09:31 AM I am all for proximity keys. Put the keys in my pocket when I leave the house and never have to worry about them again. My car unlocks when I get close, I sit down and push a button, rev the engine 2 times for show and then I pull off. I get to the liquor store, pull into the space, while revving the engine 2 times for show, get out walk away and the doors lock behind me. Upon returning to my car, repeat steps over again.:D
And why would the wife have the keys? NEVER!!
Big Als Z 10-10-2007, 09:05 AM Yeah...never give the wife the keys to my Camaro.
Id also like to see a Valet key system, where there could be a specially coded key that when the car senses it, that the car will go into a 30% mode, where 30% of its power is reserved for driving it into a parking spot, along with keeping active all stability controls.
Sholt_c33 10-11-2007, 02:22 PM Twisting the key produced a muted rumble from the big V8. We pulled away smoothly in the first cog of the new, slick, six-speed manual. Depressing the accelerator shifted the world into fast forward, with three or four more quick upshifts. The car had just been completed and had had no tuning or finessing. But I loved the response, the sound, the steering and the brakes. There's more work to be done, for sure, and the group knows it. They still have time for further development. The goal of the team led by Gene Stefanyshyn is to produce the finest car in its class, ever. Do I think they will get there? I wouldn't bet against that team!
http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/
Doesn't look like push button start is in the cards...at this point, anyways.
Liquid Slap 10-11-2007, 04:26 PM Twisting the key produced a muted rumble from the big V8. We pulled away smoothly in the first cog of the new, slick, six-speed manual. Depressing the accelerator shifted the world into fast forward, with three or four more quick upshifts. The car had just been completed and had had no tuning or finessing. But I loved the response, the sound, the steering and the brakes. There's more work to be done, for sure, and the group knows it. They still have time for further development. The goal of the team led by Gene Stefanyshyn is to produce the finest car in its class, ever. Do I think they will get there? I wouldn't bet against that team!
http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/
Doesn't look like push button start is in the cards...at this point, anyways.
Because they were driving a production model :rolleyes:
Sholt_c33 10-12-2007, 10:20 AM Because they were driving a production model :rolleyes:
Twisting the key produced a muted rumble from the big V8. We pulled away smoothly in the first cog of the new, slick, six-speed manual. Depressing the accelerator shifted the world into fast forward, with three or four more quick upshifts. The car had just been completed and had had no tuning or finessing. But I loved the response, the sound, the steering and the brakes. There's more work to be done, for sure, and the group knows it. They still have time for further development. The goal of the team led by Gene Stefanyshyn is to produce the finest car in its class, ever. Do I think they will get there? I wouldn't bet against that team!
http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/
Doesn't look like push button start is in the cards...at this point, anyways.
I am well aware of the fact that this isn't a "production" car...and it might be the reason I added "at this point, anyways" to the end of my post...:rolleyes:
97QuasarBlue3.8 10-19-2007, 03:32 PM No push-button start? Meh...
...As long as it comes with GM's new key fob with digital readouts. Now THAT is neat.
If it feels like a cheap toy I'm gonna be pissed though.
90 Z28SS 10-19-2007, 04:25 PM I dunno about the digital fobs on the Camaro . It will at least have flip out key integrated in the remote fob like Audi/VW ect ect . Thats an assumption though , based on the fact the current Holden Zeta's have a key like this and I cant see why they wouldnt use the holden/zeta steering column .
SdustinK 10-12-2008, 03:25 AM hey it has remote start and that's pretty sick
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