To many people want the new camaro!

Krypnosis
07-06-2007, 09:10 PM
I'm hearing it way to often now from people all over saying they are "gonna get" the new Camaro and I'm beginning to think there is going be fleets of them on the road once they come out. People at work who've never really cared about camaro's before all of a sudden are huge fans and are counting the days til it's release. To many posers are going to be driving them and people like me who wish they could afford it are going to have it rubbed in their faces. Anyone else hearing from people who never talked about camaros or even cars for that matter saying they are "gonna get" the new camaro?

Hiredgunz98
07-06-2007, 09:14 PM
I'm hearing it way to often now from people all over saying they are "gonna get" the new Camaro and I'm beginning to think there is going be fleets of them on the road once they come out. People at work who've never really cared about camaro's before all of a sudden are huge fans and are counting the days til it's release. To many posers are going to be driving them and people like me who wish they could afford it are going to have it rubbed in their faces. Anyone else hearing from people who never talked about camaros or even cars for that matter saying they are "gonna get" the new camaro?

Well with the MSRP expected to be from 17k-31k it's basically affordable for everyone

notgetleft
07-06-2007, 09:22 PM
Chevy should be so lucky as to really have everyone and their mother wanting to get a new camaro. Are you high?

FS3800
07-06-2007, 09:25 PM
yes.. this is a good thing... the more people that are "gonna get" the new camaro, the better

Hiredgunz98
07-06-2007, 09:29 PM
yes.. this is a good thing... the more people that are "gonna get" the new camaro, the better

The new Camaro will make Chevy #1 again!!!!

91Z-28
07-06-2007, 09:32 PM
The new Camaro will make Chevy #1 again!!!!

I thought Chevy still was the #1 selling brand in the USA?

Hiredgunz98
07-06-2007, 09:34 PM
I thought Chevy still was the #1 selling brand in the USA?

I meant In the world

POWERFREAK
07-06-2007, 09:42 PM
just because people say they are "gonna get" one, doesn't mean they'll actually run right out and buy one.

While I'd like them to be big sellers and make the Camaro a huge hit again...seeing them everywhere is gonna make make owning one a little less fun. But nothing some mods can't fix...just gotta make mine different.

EllwynX
07-06-2007, 10:43 PM
I've only heard from a miniscule amount of people say they want one. I can't say whether they'll be able to afford it or not. I've heard quite a few people say it's nice looking though.

I only know 2 people that DEFINITELY want one, AND can afford it.

Myself and my father.

Though my father has been told he can't get one until I have mine. LOL He said that's acceptable since I've been the bigger Camaro fan all along (even though he did have a couple in the past).

TTopJohn
07-06-2007, 10:44 PM
I'd love to see the 2009 hit the late 70s sales records - the more the merrier, and the more people talking about it the better.

QATransAm
07-06-2007, 10:56 PM
more sales, more wrecks, cheap LS3 swaps for 4th gens :)

MarcR94v6
07-07-2007, 12:23 AM
I understand the OP's frustration, he is afraid it will become just like the Mustang, everywhere and in turn, unremarkable. And that the "mustang types" will be giving the Camaro a bad name. I disagree and think the Camaro is beyond this. Let's face it, the Camaro will never overrun the Mustang in popularity.

shock6906
07-07-2007, 12:36 AM
Craziest. Argument. Evar.

Ron78Z&01SS
07-07-2007, 01:56 AM
Are you nuts :nuts: ?

The alternative is not enough people buying them which would lead it to being killed off again. SURELY that's not what you want, right?

If someone feels they're going to "have it rubbed in their face" because they can't afford it, well, they may have some self esteem issues.

.........actually, come to think of it, the person that CAN AFFORD it and then "rubs it in the face" of the person who can't, is the one with the real self esteem issues.

rlhjr34
07-07-2007, 09:44 AM
Even the cheap bastards in my office are ready to purchase as soon as it's available. If even these two are buying this car will sell like hot cakes. It can't be a bad thing to have too many people buying these. We do want this car around for a long time to come don't we?

jg95z28
07-07-2007, 12:49 PM
Just settle down a minute. The Camaro won't be available until early 2009... and for many of us wanting the top dog... another 12 to 18 months after that.

Most of those pretender Camaro enthusiasts will have latched on to some other vehicle by that time. They're like my 21 year old stepson who chances his opinions on cars every six months or so. There will be plenty available for every enthusiast who can afford to buy one, and they won't be a dime a dozen on the road.

mdenz3
07-07-2007, 04:03 PM
more sales, more wrecks, cheap LS3 swaps for 3rd gens :)

Fixed it for ya. ;)

99SilverSS
07-07-2007, 05:08 PM
The more Camaro's Chevy sells the better it is for GM and us enthusiasts who want the Z/28 or SS. Money and interest drive the vehicle engineering and development. Heck if they have a hard time building them fast enough and profits roll in I think somewhere in the GM ranks someone could make a case for a super Camaro to celebrate with whatever engine the Z06 or Blue Devil Vette has at the time. Too many Camaro's on the road isn't a problem it's the solution.

OutsiderIROC-Z
07-07-2007, 06:06 PM
yes.. this is a good thing... the more people that are "gonna get" the new camaro, the better

:yes:

JasonD
07-07-2007, 07:38 PM
I think it is awesome that people who didn't care about Camaros now are a fan. That means success! The more sales, the longer they make the car, the more affordable aftermarket parts out there which means more fun and opportunity for everyone and this car. If people buy it, that makes them owners and not posers.

The fifth gen needs to move into the 6th gen and beyond, and not become the 4th gen. :death: Only sales will keep that from happening.

On the other side, I think that I can't fairly say that it is okay for me to want one but no one else should. We can't really have it both ways. :)

BTW, I get the fact that I can't afford a C6 Z06 or better rubbed in my face nearly every day. That's life for ya. Again, can't have it both ways.

67 LS-1 & T-56
07-07-2007, 08:31 PM
more sales, more wrecks, cheap LS3 swaps for 1st gens :)

Fixed it for ya.

Fixed it for ya both :cool:

krazzycowgirl
07-08-2007, 02:27 AM
My hsuband & I are buying one we just have to wait until the 2010 for the vert to come out.

61695
07-08-2007, 08:59 AM
more sales, more wrecks, cheap LS3 swaps for 4th gens :)


Different way of looking at this.

Capn Pete
07-08-2007, 12:46 PM
They can pose all they want :rolleyes:. Fact of the matter is, Mustangs sell. Honda Civics sell. Those are probably 2 of the biggest "poser" cars around (not by all owners, but by "those types"). But the last time I checked, selling more cars was a GOOD THING for GM, its employees, and us "real" (if you want to call it that) enthusiasts who would like the car to come back and STAY with us longer than a couple model years.

In fact, I hope EVERYBODY goes out and buys a "Bumblebee" Camaro (or look-a-like ;)) because they saw the Transformers movie and loved it, so then my black w/silver stripes Camaro will stand out amongst the crowd!! :D

SCNGENNFTHGEN
07-11-2007, 02:34 AM
Chevrolet IS the best in the freaking business.....PERIOD!!!! If more people are going to finally start to realize that, because of the 5th gen CAMARO......That's F-ing Awesome!!!! I love it....they did a lot of what I said they should do on it too, and now it's going to pay off for them!!! Be nice if they could throw me one, for my help....lol!!! Hey I can dream can't I......?

z28Power
07-11-2007, 12:00 PM
While I get that you want it to be an exclusive club you're in, being a camaro enthusiast when fewer and fewer are each day, the trend appears to have bottomed out and is coming back up. This is a good thing.

Like it has already been mentioned, more sales means the car sticks around - we, as enthusiasts, definitely want this!

You'll still be unique as you have, and continue to be a camaro enthusiast. Many people buying this car is quite alright! It doesn't mean they are going to mod it, like many on here will do. It also doesn't automatically make them an enthusiast. You're still one in a million bud, and we still love you here ;)

You'll still be able to tell the people that appreciate the car when you're at a stoplight, pull up to another one, they look over, examine your vehiclle, and give you a thumbs up, whether you're in your 4th gen or 5th gen. That's the true test :) Let the rest of them buy to boost sales, and then go on to their new cars 1-2 years later.

While I see your point, I can't manage to see it as a bad thing.

guionM
07-11-2007, 01:43 PM
I'm hearing it way to often now from people all over saying they are "gonna get" the new Camaro and I'm beginning to think there is going be fleets of them on the road once they come out. People at work who've never really cared about camaro's before all of a sudden are huge fans and are counting the days til it's release. To many posers are going to be driving them and people like me who wish they could afford it are going to have it rubbed in their faces. Anyone else hearing from people who never talked about camaros or even cars for that matter saying they are "gonna get" the new camaro?

.... and....umm....where exactly is the problem? :confused: :shrug:

jcamere94z28
07-11-2007, 01:57 PM
My hsuband & I are buying one we just have to wait until the 2010 for the vert to come out.

same here... but it would be my wife and I ... waiting for the vert as well.

Gripenfelter
07-11-2007, 03:20 PM
I can't believe this is even a topic. If you told me 5 yrs ago that this would be a topic I wouldn't have believed you.

I remember in 2002 when everyone was blaming poor sales on the death of the 4th gen.

Capn Pete
07-11-2007, 05:02 PM
I remember in 2002 when GM was blaming poor sales on the death of the 4th gen.
Corrected :cool:.

Bobsep84
07-11-2007, 05:57 PM
I just hope the hype doesn't die down by the time the Camaro actually comes out...people might have forgotten it by then :(

krazzycowgirl
07-11-2007, 06:03 PM
I just hope the hype doesn't die down by the time the Camaro actually comes out...people might have forgotten it by then :(

I dont think it will, it be coming out soon enough that the hype is still going to be there. I was at our Major show this weekend & was passing out posters of the new camaro (the press relase posters) & had people asking me when they were coming out, of course I all I said was SOON.

ls1 hawkeye
07-11-2007, 06:51 PM
Most of those car will be the V6 cars which help all of us. Like it or not that helps with the F'N CAFE rating and boosts sales for the car but, will still leave plenty of the V8 cars for the true Camaro folks here. If we're lucky there will be enough different colors to set some cars off from each other, or a couple that will only be offered for certain years.

EllwynX
07-11-2007, 08:48 PM
I just hope the hype doesn't die down by the time the Camaro actually comes out...people might have forgotten it by then :(

Actually, outside the car people and enthusiasts, the 'hype' isn't quite what we all here think it is.

MANY people don't even know the Camaro is coming back (I've found some that didn't even know it was gone the past few years). My father just told me yesterday that he had someone comment that they liked his current car ('06 Eclipse), to which he told them it's nice, but he's going to trade it for a 2009 Camaro (after I have mine of course). He said they didn't know anything about the 2009 Camaro, or that there was even a concept in 2006.

If not for me, my father wouldn't even know. (My mother would only because she saw a quick blurb on the news back in Jan '06 and was going to tell me about it, but I already knew.)

The multitude of the buying public knows (or I should say KNEW since Transformers has brought it to a LOT of people's attention) next to nothing about the Camaro. So they won't be as desensitized as many of us may be by the time it's released.

A guy I work with who is a total import guy even said the Camaro really was gorgeous in Transformers. And that 'when it's realeased it's REALLY going to sell'. Will it manage to drag him out of his Acura TL? I doubt it, but at least it managed to impress him.

SoSmoked
07-13-2007, 04:55 PM
All these people like them and most will probably try to get one I really hope chevy dealers don't try that stupid surcharge bullsh!t.

95HellBird
07-15-2007, 02:24 PM
In fact, I hope EVERYBODY goes out and buys a "Bumblebee" Camaro (or look-a-like ;)) because they saw the Transformers movie and loved it, so then my black w/silver stripes Camaro will stand out amongst the crowd!! :D

Better not be doin the hockey stick stripes... i want a black 09 z28 with the old zl1 style hockey stick stripes and a 2010 z28 vert with same color scheme... im gonna sell my house and land besides my garage to get them if i have to!!! lol

lovescamaros25
07-15-2007, 09:14 PM
Look at the hype!The new Camaro will sell like hot cakes!

Jim85IROC
07-16-2007, 09:20 AM
If 5% of the people who say they're going to get one actually do, I'll be surprised. People are all talk.

STOCK1SC
07-16-2007, 09:39 AM
If 5% of the people who say they're going to get one actually do, I'll be surprised. People are all talk.Yep and even on this board a lot of the people who are aways complaining about wanting hud, t-tops, dvd navigation, air-conditioned seats, etc... won't even be buying one. I'm passing on a new Vette right now because I'm waiting for this car! I guess I'm waiting an extra year anyway though because I will be getting the Z28.

Robert_Nashville
07-16-2007, 03:27 PM
I just hope the hype doesn't die down by the time the Camaro actually comes out...people might have forgotten it by then :(


Good point.

In addition to the “hype” factor, I’ve been wondering for some time now whether or not by the time the new Camaro is actually available for sale if the “new” Camaro will look very dated and, consequently, not very desirable by most of the people interested in a sport coupe???

When you look at what the competition will be in the 2009 model year, a car that looks a lot like a ’69 may be far less appealing to the broad public than it is to the enthusiast community who has been waiting for several years just for the chance to buy one.

Just sort of thinking out loud here…I don’t know one way or the other.

Primus
07-16-2007, 04:20 PM
This car isn't coming out in 5 years though. It's coming out in a year and a half. I don't think the design will be dated by then. Plus, how much does it really look like a '69? Not all that much IMO.

I also think that even though the transformers movie will have been out on DVD for over a year when this car is released GM will still have access to certain promotional material for the Camaro and Bumblebee to help get awareness out there.

Robert_Nashville
07-16-2007, 05:57 PM
This car isn't coming out in 5 years though. It's coming out in a year and a half. I don't think the design will be dated by then. Plus, how much does it really look like a '69? Not all that much IMO.

I also think that even though the transformers movie will have been out on DVD for over a year when this car is released GM will still have access to certain promotional material for the Camaro and Bumblebee to help get awareness out there.


I don’t want to turn this into a “is it retro or not” argument; my personal opinion is that it looks VERY much like a ’69 (and was intended to do so). However, “retroness” is not really my main point.

Regardless of how much it does or doesn’t remind one of the ’69, my main point, is that when you compare the Fifth generation to other sports coupes that are and/or will be available at the same time, it just seems to me that it runs the risk of looking “dated” in the minds of those most likely to be thinking of a sports coupe.

What got me thinking in this direction is that I recently looked at a large collection of pictures from the NAIS and the Camaro stood out to me as just not looking as modern/”up-to-date” as some of what is out/coming out soon from other nameplates.

Who knows, that may turn out to be a very good think for sales!

boxerperson
07-17-2007, 01:09 AM
I don’t want to turn this into a “is it retro or not” argument; my personal opinion is that it looks VERY much like a ’69 (and was intended to do so). However, “retroness” is not really my main point.

Regardless of how much it does or doesn’t remind one of the ’69, my main point, is that when you compare the Fifth generation to other sports coupes that are and/or will be available at the same time, it just seems to me that it runs the risk of looking “dated” in the minds of those most likely to be thinking of a sports coupe.

What got me thinking in this direction is that I recently looked at a large collection of pictures from the NAIS and the Camaro stood out to me as just not looking as modern/”up-to-date” as some of what is out/coming out soon from other nameplates.

Who knows, that may turn out to be a very good think for sales!



Go watch Transformers....the crowd reaction when Bumblebee reformats from the '74 to the '09 is HUGE. People are nuts over how the car looks. Transformers is going to give the '09 camaro a huge boost. WAY bigger than the RX-8 with the original X-men movie...

Robert_Nashville
07-17-2007, 08:45 AM
Go watch Transformers....the crowd reaction when Bumblebee reformats from the '74 to the '09 is HUGE. People are nuts over how the car looks. Transformers is going to give the '09 camaro a huge boost. WAY bigger than the RX-8 with the original X-men movie...

Were the car available now it might make a small difference but spots in movies, especially movies this far out from a real car being available will not make the Camaro a sales success...being "nuts" about a fake car in a movie is a lot different than walking into a dealership and plunking down cash.

johnd651
07-17-2007, 10:19 AM
just to put my 2 cents in...lot of ppl can talk
wait till it comes out...and then point, :D , :burnout: as u peel out in your new camaro while there driving whatever they still got

85305Z
07-17-2007, 04:51 PM
Go watch Transformers....the crowd reaction when Bumblebee reformats from the '74 to the '09 is HUGE. People are nuts over how the car looks. Transformers is going to give the '09 camaro a huge boost. WAY bigger than the RX-8 with the original X-men movie...

i actually got a chill when i saw it roll up to the two of them :bow:

EllwynX
07-17-2007, 08:55 PM
I don’t want to turn this into a “is it retro or not” argument; my personal opinion is that it looks VERY much like a ’69 (and was intended to do so). However, “retroness” is not really my main point.

Regardless of how much it does or doesn’t remind one of the ’69, my main point, is that when you compare the Fifth generation to other sports coupes that are and/or will be available at the same time, it just seems to me that it runs the risk of looking “dated” in the minds of those most likely to be thinking of a sports coupe.

What got me thinking in this direction is that I recently looked at a large collection of pictures from the NAIS and the Camaro stood out to me as just not looking as modern/”up-to-date” as some of what is out/coming out soon from other nameplates.

Who knows, that may turn out to be a very good think for sales!

I wonder how much age has to do with the 'is it retro or not' opinion.

My father, upon first viewing, thought it was pretty retro. I, on the other hand, see FAR more 'futuristic' than retro. I see the retro 'hints' but the resemblance to a 1st gen is no stronger than when you have a child that 'looks like' their parents IMO.

IMO you're right, it's NOT 'up-to-date' like everything else. It's actually more 'modern' than anything I've ever seen (that was a production vehicle).

I'm 32 btw...

MachinistOne
07-23-2007, 03:58 AM
I know exactly how the original poster feels, I would not like pulling up to a four way stop where theres 3 other camaro's there just like I see with mustangs all the time - they're like cockroaches...just one of the reasons I bought a GTO - I see another one maybe once a week. Same reason for why I have my classic cars - exclusivity. That being said, I love the new camaro, not as much the interior - but still enough to plan on getting one.

Many of those people saying they are going to get one will have to back out because it's only a 2 door, and that's sometimes a big issue for people with a family.

Primus
07-23-2007, 11:22 AM
I know exactly how the original poster feels, I would not like pulling up to a four way stop where theres 3 other camaro's there just like I see with mustangs all the time - they're like cockroaches...just one of the reasons I bought a GTO - I see another one maybe once a week. Same reason for why I have my classic cars - exclusivity. That being said, I love the new camaro, not as much the interior - but still enough to plan on getting one.

Many of those people saying they are going to get one will have to back out because it's only a 2 door, and that's sometimes a big issue for people with a family.

I don't think there's any way around this. I think your best bet would be either custom options or maybe some third party customization to set your 5th gen apart from all the others.

I know how you feel though. I've owned 2 Firehawks for precisely this reason. Although the differences are subtle there *are* differences and that sets them apart from regular firebirds/Trans ams.

Hylton
07-24-2007, 08:37 AM
I wonder how Mustang owners felt in '65 after 500,000 units had been sold and the population was 50 million less than it is now. They must have seen themselves coming and going all day. Point is that people heralded it as a runaway success and auto manufactures to this day would love to be able to duplicate that success. In todays market, 150,000 units a year is successful for a sports coupe (Mustang sold 160,000 units in 2006). I don't care how many I see running around that look like mine. I want this to be a success.

On the other matter regarding over marketing, most people in North America have never seen the new Camaro and that is even after the Transformer movie. You can never promote a product enough. That is not to say that you keep promoting it in the same manner but you need to get the message out. Take the internet out of your life and how much would you know about the 5th gen Camaro?

JCS30TH
07-31-2007, 01:28 PM
Well with the MSRP expected to be from 17k-31k it's basically affordable for everyone

I'll bet my left nut those msrp's are way low